# TOOL

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 25, 2001, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429 "2001-05-25T01:39:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/1 "2001-05-25T01:39:28Z")

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That’s right. TOOL.

I just got in. Was away for a few days, visiting a few friends in my old university town. Today, we drove up to Tilburg with 6 of us to attend a concert.

Yeah. TOOL.  
That’s right. TOOL. I just saw TOOL. TOOL, dammit.

They were just as good as when I saw them the first time, four years ago. Only the show was more professional, and longer, too. I’m sure I’ll elaborate in the morning, but now, the 300+ miles in the car and the concert have gotten the best of me. Coldy’s gonna crash.

I saw TOOL. And they ROCKED. They rocked HARD.

_Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bayzzzzz[sup][sub]zzzzz…[/sub][/sup]_

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/2 "2001-05-25T01:48:33Z")

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I just got their new CD, “Lateralus” and it’s not very good the first time around. Seems to me that they have turned into APC,( A Perfect Circle, sideband created by maynard james keenan that because wildly popular) too mellow and not much heavy about it. Just my opinion though, I could be wrong. Anybody want a TOOL cd?

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/3 "2001-05-25T01:49:36Z")

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\*became (this is what happens when I listen to music, type and have a conversation at the same time…)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/4 "2001-05-25T01:52:07Z")

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So…you like rock hard tools?

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/5 "2001-05-25T01:52:35Z")

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I’m jealous Clog-Boy. I’ve wanted to see Tool since _Ænima_ came out in '96. They’re touring the US this summer with King Crimson (a proggers fantasy!), but there are no planned dates near Washington.

As for _Lateralus_, I started a [url=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=71096](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=71096)”]thread\* in IMHO to discuss it. I like it, but it’s going to take a year to fully digest it.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/6 "2001-05-25T01:54:00Z")

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[Preview is my friend](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=71096).

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/7 "2001-05-25T02:15:34Z")

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I’m jealous. I love Tool. I know people that don’t love Tool. Those people suck. You love Tool. You do not suck. Sleep well, Coldfire. Bastard. 😃

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**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/8 "2001-05-25T02:18:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ladyfoxfyre \*  
> \*\* Anybody want a TOOL cd? \*\*

Umm, yes, _please_?

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**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/9 "2001-05-25T02:38:13Z")

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**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/10 "2001-05-25T03:01:37Z")

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Saw Tool on the second stage at one of those Lollapaloozas way back when. Only about 1,000 of us paying attention, and they fucking _smoked_.

AEnima [sub](sorry; I don’t know how to do the cool A-E thing together)[/sub] is such an amazing album, I make it a point to ask my friends if they have it.

I was going to rush out and get the new disc, but am I hearing rumblings of dissention?

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**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/11 "2001-05-25T03:25:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Milossarian \*  
> I was going to rush out and get the new disc, but am I hearing rumblings of dissention?

Nah, get it. It’s really good, especially if you consider the entire album as one work. There were a few times that it made me think, “Oh, sweet Jesus, I’m worshipping at the altar of a _prog rock_ band.” But I got over it.

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**Author:** ![Studi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Studi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Studi)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/12 "2001-05-25T03:41:42Z")

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Lucky bastard.

Studi

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/13 "2001-05-25T04:04:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lux Fiat \*  
> \*\*There were a few times that it made me think, “Oh, sweet Jesus, I’m worshipping at the altar of a _prog rock_ band.” But I got over it. \*\*

And what, do tell, is wrong with prog rock?

– Montfort, resident prog rock snob

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**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/14 "2001-05-25T06:47:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Montfort \*
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> And what, do tell, is wrong with prog rock?
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> – Montfort, resident prog rock snob

Oh, you know. Effete intellectualism. General pretentiousness. Lack of soul. Concept albums, for the love of God. That just leads to rock operas. No one wants that.

You know I’m having fun here, right? To come into a thread started by Coldfire and imply disdain for prog rock? ('Sides, I don’t really think Tool is a prog rock band. They’re far too cool for that. :))

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**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/15 "2001-05-25T06:51:18Z")

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Just for the record, though, if anybody starts talking smack about grunge I come bomb their house.

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**Author:** ![absoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@absoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/absoul)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/16 "2001-05-25T07:49:25Z")

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I know the pieces fit cuz I watched them fall away.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/17 "2001-05-25T13:11:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lux Fiat \*  
> \*\*('Sides, I don’t really think Tool is a prog rock band. They’re far too cool for that. :)) \*\*

I’ll accept your distate for prog rock if you withdraw this statement from the record. 🙂

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/18 "2001-05-25T14:03:32Z")

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You suck, **Coldy**.

I’m jealous, but my day will come. Actually, maybe I \*shouldn’t \* go to a TOOL concert, they were one of the bands I used to listen to pump up for rugby matches. I might start tackling people.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/19 "2001-05-25T14:10:11Z")

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mmmm…tool…stinkfist…dreamy…

The general consensus I hear on the new album is that it’s not so much ‘bad’ as it is ‘just another tool album’. They haven’t made any strides in their music, they haven’t evolved at all…which, in my opinion, isn’t really a big deal. I thought once A Perfect Circle was formed, Tool was done, but I guess not.

jarbaby

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2001, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tool/66429/20 "2001-05-25T14:28:52Z")

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> _Originally posted by Lux Fiat \*  
> Effete intellectualism. General pretentiousness. Lack of soul. Concept albums, for the love of God. That just leads to rock operas. No one wants that._\*

**Lux** , I simply HAVE to ask permission to use this in my sig. If anything stamps the steel of the punk movement (boy am I old) that’s it.

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