# Top 10 Ragdoll Physics Moments in Mixed Martial Arts

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**Created:** [July 31, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927 "2009-07-31T22:57:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/1 "2009-07-31T22:57:06Z")

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Courtesy of seanbaby at [cracked.com](http://cracked.com), this is freakin’ hilarious. Whoever set up the fight for #3 ought to be criminally charged.

[Top 10 Ragdoll Physics Moments in Mixed Martial Arts](http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-mixed-martial-arts-knockouts-that-displayed-rag-doll-physics/)

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/2 "2009-07-31T23:21:39Z")

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Yeah, #3 is fucking messed up.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/3 "2009-07-31T23:28:50Z")

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The first fight I ever saw Wanderlei Silva in was a superior ragdoll moment to the one they showed. He was the underdog in the fight and had knocked the other dude out in a few seconds without the other guy even really getting any hits in.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/4 "2009-08-01T03:35:30Z")

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Seanbaby has been the funniest thing on the internet for the last decade or so.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/5 "2009-08-01T08:19:55Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> The first fight I ever saw Wanderlei Silva in was a superior ragdoll moment to the one they showed. He was the underdog in the fight and had knocked the other dude out in a few seconds without the other guy even really getting any hits in.

What’s a better ragdoll knockout, “the other dude” or THE Rampage Jackson? Seeing him fall into the ropes out cold is like watching someone punch a hole in a tank and rip out the screaming driver. It’s just not even fucking imaginable.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/6 "2009-08-01T14:49:13Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> What’s a better ragdoll knockout, “the other dude” or THE Rampage Jackson? Seeing him fall into the ropes out cold is like watching someone punch a hole in a tank and rip out the screaming driver. It’s just not even fucking imaginable.

Well ‘the other dude’ was a name too, I just wasn’t that up on MMA and didn’t know who he was, just as I don’t know who THE Rampage Jackson was until watching him get knocked the fuck out by Silva. Still the other knockout was a better rag doll moment because Silva wasn’t getting the shit kicked out of him for like three minutes before it.

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/7 "2009-08-02T07:34:23Z")

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The first one I ever saw was the Nelmark fight. I’ve never been squeamish about the UFC, but after I saw the ridiculously awkward way he landed…well, it certainly stuck with me for a while.

I think all these examples illustrate just how unpredictable MMA is and how things can happen in an eyeblink. Every martial artist learns how to take a proper fall, but with full-contact strikes and no protection, it’s not uncommon for someone to get knocked out on his feet. And from there, it’s all gravity and the whims of fate.

My personal favorite on the list is #7. That is Just. Messed. Up.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/8 "2009-08-03T03:14:15Z")

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This was a great article, but I prefered [The Top 8 ‘Oh Shit!’ Moments from Mixed Martial Arts](http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-top-eight-oh-shit-moments-in-mma/) from May.

I mean, I really sat here going “OH SHIT!” while reading and watching. I mean, just LOOK at that .gif of Bob Sapp piledriving Nogueria, and tell me you didn’t say “OHHHHH SHIT!” at least once.

Good times. Good times.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/9 "2009-08-03T08:25:32Z")

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I saw this a few days ago. I laughed my ass off and had to call my wife in the room to show her Rashad’s caption.

Hendo’s caption was perfect. Point Break is my favorite action movie.

“Hey, no throwsies!” 😃

But how did Tim Boestch vs. David Heath not make the list? That is my #1 association when I hear “mma” and “ragdoll” together.

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**Author:** ![in\_hiding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c5a1d2/32.png) [@in\_hiding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/in_hiding)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/10 "2009-08-03T09:07:17Z")

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I’m amazed - who had this brilliant idea of mixed martial arts? I mean, what could **possibly** go wrong? :eek:

This is the first time I actually see videos like this. They all (at least the recieving half) look like candidates for the Darwin Award to me. Is this really considered a sport? Looks a lot less fake then wrestling. And what is up with this guys - on the first video one fighter gets knocked out, just lies on his back, and the other kneels down and keeps punching him in the face? I wonder if this is what rome felt a few years before the colalpse. 😉  
But really, what am I missing here?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/11 "2009-08-03T09:32:21Z")

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> [@in\_hiding](#):
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> I’m amazed - who had this brilliant idea of mixed martial arts? I mean, what could **possibly** go wrong? :eek:
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> This is the first time I actually see videos like this. They all (at least the recieving half) look like candidates for the Darwin Award to me. Is this really considered a sport? Looks a lot less fake then wrestling. And what is up with this guys - on the first video one fighter gets knocked out, just lies on his back, and the other kneels down and keeps punching him in the face? I wonder if this is what rome felt a few years before the colalpse. 😉  
> But really, what am I missing here?

Yes, it’s a sport. It’s government-regulated sport and it actually has a very good track record for safety. There has only been 1 death ever in sanctioned MMA and it was at least partially due to a pre-existing condition. Boxing averages over 10 deaths _per year._ I’m pretty sure almost every major sport has far more deaths and serious injuries than MMA. [This article](http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/10203.php) discusses dozens of serious injuries and deaths in American football, from paralysis to death by heatstroke, to head and neck trauma fatalities.

You’re missing a lot, I’m sure. Especially if this is your very first exposure to the sport (that’s unfortunate; it probably would’ve turned me off, too.) A match can end without a punch ever being thrown. Combatants can “tap out” (end the fight) when they are essentialy check-mated. There are rounds (3 five-minute rounds in a standard bout), judges, etc. The referees are very aggressive about protecting the fighters’ safety. Once the ref steps in, the fight is over.

The reason the guy knelt down and kept swinging in the video you saw is because they keep going until the referee stops the fight, and I guess the ref was a split-second late in calling a halt that time. Under boxing (err, kickboxing) rules, that guy might’ve gotten 10 seconds to stand up and get pummeled again. In MMA, the fight ended.

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**Author:** ![in\_hiding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c5a1d2/32.png) [@in\_hiding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/in_hiding)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/12 "2009-08-03T09:38:26Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Yes, it’s a sport. It’s government-regulated sport and it actually has a very good track record for safety.  
> (…)  
> Under boxing (err, kickboxing) rules, that guy might’ve gotten 10 seconds to stand up and get pummeled again. In MMA, the fight ended.

Ah, that makes more sense then. It looked like some kind of modern gladiator fight to me, but I guess this is the most extreme part of the sport. Some of the moves out of the “oh shit” - compilation look **deadly**.

Wouldn’t have thought that there are so many death in boxing. Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/13 "2009-08-03T09:44:05Z")

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> [@in\_hiding](#):
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> Ah, that makes more sense then. It looked like some kind of modern gladiator fight to me, but I guess this is the most extreme part of the sport. Some of the moves out of the “oh shit” - compilation look **deadly**.
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> Wouldn’t have thought that there are so many death in boxing. Interesting.

Besides using the misnomer “Ultimate Fighting” over and over, [this article](http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/83188/is_ultimate_fighting_safer_than_boxing.html?cat=5) is a decent primer.

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> The gloves in [MMA] are designed to protect the hand. In boxing the gloves are designed to protect the opponent from serious injury. Oddly enough this seems to have the counter effect. The gloves in [MMA] allow for quick knockouts and superficial injuries thereby decreasing overall strikes to the head. The gloves in boxing tend to allow for more “jarring of the brain” over time thereby producing a greater amount of strikes to the head. This can of course, lead [to] a great many long term repercussions (see “long term” in extra resources).

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/14 "2009-08-03T09:47:00Z")

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> [@in\_hiding](#):
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> Some of the moves out of the “oh shit” - compilation look **deadly**.

Actually it’s interesting that you noticed that, because Kevin Randleman’s suplex _was_ deadly. Had he performed it on a human, it would’ve been the first death in sanctioned MMA. Fortunately, Emelianenko is a cybernetic organism; living tissue over a metal endoskeleton.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/15 "2009-08-03T15:26:27Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Fortunately, Emelianenko is a cybernetic organism; living tissue over a metal endoskeleton.

Ah, his CPU is a neural net processor; a learning computer?

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/16 "2009-08-03T16:44:08Z")

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> [@in\_hiding](#):
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> Ah, his CPU is a neural net processor; a learning computer?

Yes. The more contact he has with humans, the more he learns.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/17 "2009-08-04T01:48:24Z")

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[QUOTE=mswas]  
Yeah, #3 is fucking messed up.  
[/QUOTE]

Well Jeremy Bullock shouldn’t have trained at “Rick’s Tae-Kwon-Do and Auto Parts”, doesn’t exactly sound reputable to me, ya know? 😃

(For my money, the funniest quote in the article BTW.)

> [@pravnik](#):
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> Yes. The more contact he has with humans, the more he learns.

This is just propaganda to make people think Fedor is bound by the laws of physics.

As seanbaby notes, it’s true that he arose from the ruins of Stalingrad, but he’s more like a wraith or a zombie. The only way to kill him is to shoot the brain or sever the spinal cord. Anything else is fruitless.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/18 "2009-08-04T10:34:12Z")

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I’ve been trying to find a great video that I saw a few months back.

Before the fight starts, one fighter is showing off, working the crowd, doing hand stands and basically being a show boat. The other just stands there. When the bell rings the showboat does a flip across the ring and as he is coming up out of his flip, the other fighter clocks him and knocks him out. Does that sound familiar and can anyone give me a link?

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**Author:** ![EpicNonsense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c37758/32.png) [@EpicNonsense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EpicNonsense)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/19 "2009-08-04T12:25:59Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> I’ve been trying to find a great video that I saw a few months back.
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> Before the fight starts, one fighter is showing off, working the crowd, doing hand stands and basically being a show boat. The other just stands there. When the bell rings the showboat does a flip across the ring and as he is coming up out of his flip, the other fighter clocks him and knocks him out. Does that sound familiar and can anyone give me a link?

I think this is what you’re talking about…

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fwnaUojQKbg/hqdefault.jpg "NEVER BACK DOWN FIGHT( DONT SHOW OFF )") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwnaUojQKbg)

It’s from a [movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1023111/) but people often mistake the clip for being real.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-10-ragdoll-physics-moments-in-mixed-martial-arts/504927/20 "2009-08-04T12:30:39Z")

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> [@EpicNonsense](#):
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> I think this is what you’re talking about…  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwnaUojQKbg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwnaUojQKbg)
> 
> It’s from a [movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1023111/) but people often mistake the clip for being real.

You are right (on all accounts), that is the one I was thinking of - and I didn’t know it was from a movie. Thanks for the link and for setting me straight. (It is still a fun clip.)

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