# Top Religious Leader of Saudi Arabia bans Chess **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892 "2016-01-22T18:04:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/221 "2016-01-25T19:03:22Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Okay, you win. > > Just kidding. You’ve been pointed to threads where these issues have been discussed. So if this has already been discussed, then I’m sure you can direct me to a specific post where you explain why its acceptable for the leading example of morals in Islam to have had sex with an 10 year old child? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/222 "2016-01-25T19:06:33Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Yes thanks I’m enjoying it. Do you have anything intelligent to add to this discussion? Why should I have? You don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/223 "2016-01-25T19:07:13Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > So if this has already been discussed, then I’m sure you can direct me to a specific post where you explain why its acceptable for the leading example of morals in Islam to have had sex with an 10 year old child? As I said, the reasoning skills of a small hippo dropped on his head at birth. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/224 "2016-01-25T19:07:31Z")
> [@](#): > > So if this has already been discussed, then I’m sure you can direct me to a specific post where you explain why its acceptable for the leading example of morals in Islam to have had sex with an 10 year old child? The age of consent at common law was 12, and marriages involving children of 10 or younger were routinely upheld by the courts. This was in England as late as the early 18th century. Hope you don’t live in a common law country. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/225 "2016-01-25T19:10:40Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The age of consent at common law was 12, and marriages involving children of 10 or younger were routinely upheld by the courts. This was in England as late as the early 18th century. Hope you don’t live in a common law country. Hell, the age of consent in Vatican City was 12 until the current papacy. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/226 "2016-01-25T19:15:08Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Irrelevant . TBH, I’m not sure that your demonstrable ignorance of fundamental terms relating to the discussion is irrelevant. Seems pretty on point in establishing the validity of your opinions. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/227 "2016-01-25T19:16:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The age of consent at common law was 12, and marriages involving children of 10 or younger were routinely upheld by the courts. This was in England as late as the early 18th century. Hope you don’t live in a common law country. This argument is lame. Somehow Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Confucius, Guru Nanak, Mahavira and other major religious leaders are not recorded as having had sex with children. Neither were they brutal warlords who killed enemies who had already surrendered. ---
**Author:** ![Hooleehootoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@Hooleehootoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hooleehootoo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/228 "2016-01-25T19:21:33Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > "harsh penalties for apostasy,… They are not unique to Islamic communities, … Can you point to current populations of Buddhists, Jews, Yazidis, Christians, etc. that find justification in their religious texts for murdering apostates? Any other governments besides the ones controlled by Islamic law have laws against apostasy? Vigilantes murder people for this in Bangladesh and Afghanistan, not Denmark or Bolivia. ---
**Author:** ![A\_isha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@A\_isha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_isha)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/229 "2016-01-25T19:26:19Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > This argument is lame. Somehow Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Confucius, Guru Nanak, Mahavira and other major religious leaders are not recorded as having had sex with children. Neither were they brutal warlords who killed enemies who had already surrendered. [Yeah, about that…](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/blogging_the_bible/features/2006/the_complete_book_of_numbers/the_bibles_most_hideous_war_crime.html) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/230 "2016-01-25T19:26:22Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > This argument is lame. Somehow Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Confucius, Guru Nanak, Mahavira and other major religious leaders are not recorded as having had sex with children. Neither were they brutal warlords who killed enemies who had already surrendered. The goalposts are over there, son. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/231 "2016-01-25T19:27:59Z")
> [@Hooleehootoo](#): > > Can you point to current populations of Buddhists, Jews, Yazidis, Christians, etc. that find justification in their religious texts for murdering apostates? To be fair there have been recorded incidents of violence against Ex Hindus in India that convert to Christianity or Islam, but they’re pretty slim statistically compared to the recorded incidents of violence against those that attempt to convert from Islam. ---
**Author:** ![A\_isha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@A\_isha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_isha)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/232 "2016-01-25T19:30:26Z")
> [@Hooleehootoo](#): > > Can you point to current populations of Buddhists, Jews, Yazidis, Christians, etc. that find justification in their religious texts for murdering apostates? Here in my country, people [who do that](https://reason.com/archives/1998/11/01/invitation-to-a-stoning) are best buds with [candidates for office run by one of our two main political parties.](http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/6/30/132459/854) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/233 "2016-01-25T19:34:47Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > As I said, the reasoning skills of a small hippo dropped on his head at birth. How small a hippo, and dropped from what height? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/234 "2016-01-25T19:35:49Z")
> [@A\_isha](#): > > [Yeah, about that…](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/blogging_the_bible/features/2006/the_complete_book_of_numbers/the_bibles_most_hideous_war_crime.html) Again , Old testament. I’m talking about the recorded life of the founder of the religion. Let me make it real simple for you. Jesus: Born a poor carpenter, found religion and attempted to reform judaism, killed by the romans. Died in poverty. Buddha: Born a prince, renounced his wealth, took vows of asceticism, spent the rest of his life preaching and founding monasteries. Died owning nothing but his robe and his bowl. Mohammed: Born a merchant, became a warlord, conquered cities and claimed to have received messages from god. Married 13 wives including a 7 year old, died a wealthy man. One of these is not like the others. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/235 "2016-01-25T19:43:21Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Again , Old testament. I’m talking about the recorded life of the founder of the religion. Let me make it real simple for you. > > Jesus: Born a poor carpenter, found religion and attempted to reform judaism, killed by the romans. Died in poverty. > > Buddha: Born a prince, renounced his wealth, took vows of asceticism, spent the rest of his life preaching and founding monasteries. Died owning nothing but his robe and his bowl. > > Mohammed: Born a merchant, became a warlord, conquered cities and claimed to have received messages from god. Married 13 wives including a 7 year old, died a wealthy man. > > One of these is not like the others. Makes you wonder why the GOP doesn’t worship Mohammed. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/236 "2016-01-25T19:45:44Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Makes you wonder why the GOP doesn’t worship Mohammed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/237 "2016-01-25T19:54:16Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Makes you wonder why the GOP doesn’t worship Mohammed. Yes sure, especially since Jesus was pretty much a socialist who thought his followers should renounce wealth and share all their property equally. Don’t worry I have equal scorn for hypocrites in christianity as I do for hypocrites in Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Hooleehootoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@Hooleehootoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hooleehootoo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/238 "2016-01-25T19:56:28Z")
> [@A\_isha](#): > > Here in my country, people [who do that](https://reason.com/archives/1998/11/01/invitation-to-a-stoning) are best buds with [candidates for office run by one of our two main political parties.](http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/6/30/132459/854) Have you watched [The killing of farkhunda](http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000004108808/the-killing-of-farkhunda.html)? Does murmuring " JerryFallwellJerryFallwellJerryFallwell…" while you do so bring you peace? ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/239 "2016-01-25T20:12:36Z")
> [@Hooleehootoo](#): > > Have you watched [The killing of farkhunda](http://www.nytimes.com/video/world/asia/100000004108808/the-killing-of-farkhunda.html)? Does murmuring " JerryFallwellJerryFallwellJerryFallwell…" while you do so bring you peace? Thanks for that. I challenge anyone else posting in this thread to send me a link to a similar cellphone recorded killing in the last 5 years of an accused apostate from another major religion other than Islam. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/240 "2016-01-25T20:26:08Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > Odd conclusion from a thread that is mostly atheists arguing. About what, again? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892.md?page=13)