# Top Religious Leader of Saudi Arabia bans Chess **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892 "2016-01-22T18:04:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/241 "2016-01-25T20:38:01Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > About what, again? You’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![A\_isha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@A\_isha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_isha)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/242 "2016-01-25T20:41:23Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Again , Old testament. Yeah, it was _totally_ unfair of me to bring up Moses when you didn’t… > [@coremelt](#): > > This argument is lame. Somehow Jesus, Buddha, **Moses** , Confucius, Guru Nanak, Mahavira and other major religious leaders are not recorded as having had sex with children. Neither were they brutal warlords who killed enemies who had already surrendered. Oh, right. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/243 "2016-01-25T20:45:33Z")
> [@A\_isha](#): > > Oh, right. Yawn. Get back to me when you actually bother to defend Muhammeds life as recorded by his own words and by his followers. You can’t, because you know its indefensible. As an example for his followers he fails miserably. He was a shameless opportunist using his self proclaimed holy status to enrich himself and his family. I put him firmly in the same category as L Ron Hubbard. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/244 "2016-01-25T20:47:27Z")
> [@andros](#): > > You’re wrong. Is this a five-minute argument or the full half-hour? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/245 "2016-01-25T20:51:22Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Maybe, but not from myself. There are no more than a scant handful of Dopers who rail against Islam as a whole. You are not one of them. I am not one of them. The great majority of Doprrs don’t comment on Islam at all. The righteous indignation and proudly taking a stand is, in this case, largely a feel-good-about-myself pose. ---
**Author:** ![A\_isha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@A\_isha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_isha)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/246 "2016-01-25T20:51:54Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Yawn. Get back to me when you actually bother to defend Muhammeds life as recorded by his own words and by his followers. You can’t, because you know its indefensible. As an example for his followers he fails miserably. He was a shameless opportunist using his self proclaimed holy status to enrich himself and his family. I put him firmly in the same category as L Ron Hubbard. I already linked you to two threads where I addressed that exact same bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![A\_isha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@A\_isha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_isha)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/247 "2016-01-25T20:53:06Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Thanks for that. I challenge anyone else posting in this thread to send me a link to a similar cellphone recorded killing in the last 5 years of an accused apostate from another major religion other than Islam. Because if it’s not recorded on video, it [doesn’t](http://www.worldbulletin.net/muslim-world/135279/jordanian-christian-kills-daughter-for-converting-to-islam) [count](http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/05/jordanian-man-killed-his-daughter-for-converting-to-islam/)? ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/248 "2016-01-25T20:55:20Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Is this a five-minute argument or the full half-hour? The full half hour please. “an argument is a collective series of statements to establish a contradiction” “no it isn’t”… Yadda yadda… ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/249 "2016-01-25T20:56:46Z")
> [@A\_isha](#): > > I already linked you to two threads where I addressed that exact same bullshit. Well then please summarise it for me again because I’m a lazy entitled asshole. Copy paste is acceptable and it really isn’t hard. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/250 "2016-01-25T21:06:51Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Well then please summarise it for me again because I’m a lazy entitled asshole. Copy paste is acceptable and it really isn’t hard. Houston, we have a troll. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/251 "2016-01-25T21:16:21Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Houston, we have a troll. Nope I genuinely believe and stand behind my statements on Islam. The founder of Islam was a terrible person and he should not be a moral example to mankind for anyone, especially not a billion people. Get back to me if you’re actually willing to debate this, instead of just spouting nonsense and accusations of bigotry or ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/252 "2016-01-25T21:25:52Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > You’re obviously a bit slow since we have moved on from this point about 20 posts ago. Do try to keep up won’t you? But yes I will happily munch on an ass as long as its clean and attached to a female. > [@coremelt](#): > > Another lame comeback, you can do better than that. This is the pit. Try harder. Follow your own advice. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/253 "2016-01-25T21:29:42Z")
> [@A\_isha](#): > > Yeah, it was _totally_ unfair of me to bring up Moses when you didn’t… > > Oh, right. But wait, who was the guy who’s daughters got with drunk and, er, got begat by him? ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/254 "2016-01-25T21:30:24Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Follow your own advice. I think this pit thread must get the award for the lamest amount of abuse of fellow posters ever. If you really disagreed with me I think you would put a bit more vitriol behind it than “follow your own advice” ? What is that? A pitting for cardigan wearing accountants? ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/255 "2016-01-25T21:37:30Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Nope I genuinely believe and stand behind my statements on Islam. The founder of Islam was a terrible person and he should not be a moral example to mankind for anyone, especially not a billion people. Get back to me if you’re actually willing to debate this, instead of just spouting nonsense and accusations of bigotry or ignorance. Sorry, not in the mood to be a performing seal today. You have two links to threads that address your question. Obviously you have no genuine interest in or capacity for debate. I must say, you have a very odd method of masturbation. Whatever floats your boat, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/256 "2016-01-25T21:45:49Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > I must say, you have a very odd method of masturbation. Whatever floats your boat, I guess. Masturbation is haram, so I never partake in it. Fucking children however is acceptable, but personally I choose not to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/257 "2016-01-25T22:28:44Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Not true. I regard all religions with skepticism, but I respect Buddhists, moderate Jews, Sikhs, Druze, Jains and Zoroastrians (yes they still exist, in India and Iran) for their moral integrity amongst the majority of their followers. The founder of Buddhism abandoned his family to seek something for himself. You respect that? Why do you respect Buddhism for the way its practiced today, but decry other faiths, not based on the way they’re practiced today, but based on what you believe is the behavior of their founders? ---
**Author:** ![A\_isha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@A\_isha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_isha)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/258 "2016-01-25T22:59:43Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Masturbation is haram Only to the Malikis and Shafi’i’s. The Hanbalis say it’s permissible in certain circumstances, and the Hanafis even consider it obligatory in certain circumstances. > [@](#): > > Fucking children however is acceptable, but personally I choose not to do that. It’s obvious that you have zero clue as to what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/259 "2016-01-25T23:22:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The founder of Buddhism abandoned his family to seek something for himself. You respect that? He was a wealthy guy, I bet his family got to keep all his shit. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/260 "2016-01-26T00:10:15Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > He was a wealthy guy, I bet his family got to keep all his shit. > :dubious: Hah! I forgot about that. But, wait; his wife, being a woman, wasn’t accorded full personhood back then. Even today, a fair number of Buddhist sects restrict women’s worship. Another thing, since coremelt says he respects Buddhism, then he must respect those Buddhists who are killing other people for the “crime” of not being Buddhist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892.md?page=14)