# Top Religious Leader of Saudi Arabia bans Chess **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892 "2016-01-22T18:04:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/61 "2016-01-23T13:00:59Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Nothing hostile hear. Well, nothing other than a dislike of stupidity. I was referring to post #35 ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/62 "2016-01-23T13:04:37Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Nothing hostile hear. Well, nothing other than a dislike of stupidity. hear? Don’t you mean here? If you’re going to try to show how smart you are, try to use the correct term, one that refers to a place, and not what you do with your ears. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/63 "2016-01-23T13:05:31Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > I was referring to post #35 Nope, noting hostile there either. coremelt posted a lot of rubbish about a few religions as though it were fact. Of course, when it comes to Islam, that’s his forte so I felt correction was in order. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/64 "2016-01-23T13:05:46Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > I’m not sure if you realize this but pointing out my hostility towards religion is not going to get you anywhere. Get anywhere? Of course not, you are a True Believer. So it happens to be non-religion with great hostility to religion but the pattern of thinking is the same, the style of discourse is the same. You only replace proselytizing blind Belief in the Better Unbelief with the Better religion… that is all. > [@](#): > > If there was any solid, real, validity to any of you peoples beliefs about god, you wouldn’t have to waste your time getting mad at me. I am not even a practicing person. I do not care about any single persons belief or non belief. > [@](#): > > It’s the weakness of your position position that makes you attack those who attack your position. No,I do not have a “position” at all. It is your stupidity and annoying idiocy, and your idiotic thinking you are clever in every religious context talking about comic books or similar things, like the prosyletizing Believers coming into random discussion with some silly comment about a moon god or a false christ. It is just like your idiotic behavior in that Jesus reality thread, where you moronically blunder in with your childish and stupid observations and are unable to understand the majority of the conversation was by non-believers themselves, not caring about your obsession to disprove… You are a stupid person who thinks himself clever and boring and dull across all the conversations. Just shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/65 "2016-01-23T13:06:36Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > hear? Don’t you mean here? > > If you’re going to try to show how smart you are, try to use the correct term, one that refers to a place, and not what you do with your ears. Hah! Well, this is the SDMB after all, itself not a stranger to Guadere’s Law. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/66 "2016-01-23T13:09:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Nope, noting hostile there either. coremelt posted a lot of rubbish about a few religions as though it were fact. Of course, when it comes to Islam, that’s his forte so I felt correction was in order. > [@](#): > > You really should try knowing what you’re talking about before spewing nonsense… > > Seriously, coremelt; have you ever posted anything other than nonsense on this site? Well, I suppose a hostile person wouldn’t view such remarks as being in any way hostile. To you, such comments are probably as normal as hello, or, pass the salt. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/67 "2016-01-23T13:19:34Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > It is your stupidity and annoying idiocy, and your idiotic thinking you are clever in every religious context talking about comic books or similar things, like the prosyletizing Believers coming into random discussion with some silly comment about a moon god or a false christ. It is just like your idiotic behavior in that Jesus reality thread, where you moronically blunder in with your childish and stupid observations and are unable to understand the majority of the conversation was by non-believers themselves, not caring about your obsession to disprove… Let’s start with the assumption that everything you say here is true. > [@](#): > > Of course not, you are a True Believer. So it happens to be non-religion with great hostility to religion but the pattern of thinking is the same, the style of discourse is the same. You only replace proselytizing blind Belief in the Better Unbelief with the Better religion… that is all. > > I am not even a practicing person. I do not care about any single persons belief or non belief. Can I just point out that you don’t act like someone who “does not care about any single persons belief or non belief.” Before I even showed up on this thread you had already used some combination of stupid, idiot, or stupid bigoted asshole — 18 times —. That sounds kind of like proselytizing to me… and a lot of hatred for someone who claims “not to be concerned about the issue”. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/68 "2016-01-23T13:27:03Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Can I just point out that you don’t act like someone who “does not care about any single persons belief or non belief.” Of course you are so stupid you can not understand the difference between being annoyed with the idiotic logical and factual errors of the bigots and having a belief in something which is why you thought of Monty as a muslim and why you repeatedly could not understand the others in the Jesus thread finding your comments stupid and irrelevant were not believers either. Your religious like belief system > [@](#): > > Before I even showed up on this thread you had already used some combination of stupid, idiot, or stupid bigoted asshole — 18 times —. What do you think this has anything to do with the religious belief? > [@](#): > > That sounds kind of like proselytizing to me… How can it be “proselytizing”? I promote no belief at all. > [@](#): > > a lot of hatred for someone who claims “not to be concerned about the issue”. You really are very stupid. I am concerned about the hatred, the bigotry, and the lies and the prejudices directed at the muslims, as of course as the non-believing Jews learned the bigots will still attack and kill you no matter if you are not a practicing or even a believing person. and even were this not a personal risk, the repeated distortions and idiotic bigot discourse I am tired of because it is hateful. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/69 "2016-01-23T13:37:42Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Of course you are so stupid you can not understand the difference between being annoyed with the idiotic logical and factual errors of the bigots and having a belief in something which is why you thought of Monty as a muslim and why you repeatedly could not understand the others in the Jesus thread finding your comments stupid and irrelevant were not believers either. Your religious like belief system > > What do you think this has anything to do with the religious belief? > > How can it be “proselytizing”? I promote no belief at all. > > You really are very stupid. > I am concerned about the hatred, the bigotry, and the lies and the prejudices directed at the muslims, as of course as the non-believing Jews learned the bigots will still attack and kill you no matter if you are not a practicing or even a believing person. > > and even were this not a personal risk, the repeated distortions and idiotic bigot discourse I am tired of because it is hateful. 1- I was aware Monty was not a Muslim. I thought he was a Christian. Which, he is. 2- I was aware that most of the people in the “jesus” thread you refer to were not religious. 3- I’m not a violent person. Not in any way. I can think peoples ideas are stupid without thinking that they deserve violence done to them. 4- I’m just going to assume you already knew and understood point #3. But I don’t think it was a waste of time for me to clarify the issue either. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/70 "2016-01-23T13:44:26Z")
1: then your comment to both of us about your leaders is even stupider 2: then your proslytizing about your particular True Unbelief there was even stupider and even more pointless and annoying if we believe you 3: who said anything about you and violence? You are an annoying idiot, just shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/71 "2016-01-23T13:49:12Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > 1: then your comment to both of us about your leaders is even stupider > 2: then your proslytizing about your particular True Unbelief there was even stupider and even more pointless and annoying if we believe you > 3: who said anything about you and violence? > > You are an annoying idiot, just shut up. You know, if we trained a parrot to say: stupid, idiot and shut up… and taught it how to type… it would more or less be the same as having an argument with you! ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/72 "2016-01-23T13:51:08Z")
**Ramira** , the fact that you are unable to articulate your point without insulting every single poster who disagrees with you says a lot more about your level of intellect than theirs. Also shall I preemptively declare myself a stupid idiot to save you the trouble? ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/73 "2016-01-23T14:00:29Z")
Unable? This is the Pit. so yes, save me the trouble for stupid observations. There is no “argument” with Robert, his idiocy coming into every thread with any religious component and making idiotic interruptions with references to the comic books and pretending this is relevant to a subject - as he did with the Jesus thread along with numerous stupid observations that make even less sense if he actually knew the participants were not religious, provoking even the comment by them in that thread… ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/74 "2016-01-23T14:03:13Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > I never said “exactly” like Priests, don’t put words in my mouth. Islam has religious leaders who perform various functions. It doesn’t matter that there is no ordination ritual, in english we don’t have another word thats more accurate for a religious leader so Priest will do. There are other religions which don’t have ordination rituals who have Priests, eg various schools of Hinduism, various wiccan traditions. Actually, both rabbis and the Muslim leaders are more of theologians or maybe pastors. They don’t perform sacrifices, which Jewish priests would if they had the Temple. And saying that “in english we don’t have another word that’s more accurate for a religious leader” appears to indicate that your knowledge of English is… seriously lacking. I know it’s the Pit but what can I say, I just had lunch and I’m really not feeling the vitriol. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/75 "2016-01-23T14:08:56Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Well, I suppose a hostile person wouldn’t view such remarks as being in any way hostile. To you, such comments are probably as normal as hello, or, pass the salt. Well, it’s not like I ever had any respect for your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/76 "2016-01-23T15:11:39Z")
> [@minlokwat](#): > > **Ramira** , the fact that you are unable to articulate your point without insulting every single poster who disagrees with you says a lot more about your level of intellect than theirs. Sick burn, bruh. Take you a few minutes to come up with that one? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/77 "2016-01-23T15:14:58Z")
Also, the troll OP has 77 responses, with anger and vitriol in the mix. Good job, everyone. (Fortunately, its keyboard is probably completely soaked in spooge and it won’t be able to post anything else for a while. So, yanno, there’s that.) . ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/78 "2016-01-23T18:18:49Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, it’s not like I ever had any respect for your opinion. you are a good example of “Christianity in reverse” “If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. … ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/79 "2016-01-23T18:21:16Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > Unable? > This is the Pit. > so yes, save me the trouble for stupid observations. > > There is no “argument” with Robert, his idiocy coming into every thread with any religious component and making idiotic interruptions with references to the comic books and pretending this is relevant to a subject - as he did with the Jesus thread along with numerous stupid observations that make even less sense if he actually knew the participants were not religious, provoking even the comment by them in that thread… Except that: Before I even showed up on this thread you had already used some combination of stupid, idiot, or stupid bigoted asshole — 18 times —. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892/80 "2016-01-23T18:32:31Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Except that: > > Before I even showed up on this thread you had already used some combination of stupid, idiot, or stupid bigoted asshole — 18 times —. Except that? Except _ **what** _? You are boring and stupid for your own reasons. There is no “except” or any kind of argument with you, you just are boring, stupid and annoying for the reasons quoted like the childish habit of the out of place comic book references or your bizarre incompetence in the reading comprehension. So yes in the pit we can tell you, you are stupid boring and annoying. and we can tell a bigotted OP he is bigotted without the marquesse tea room rules of the gd. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-religious-leader-of-saudi-arabia-bans-chess/743892.md?page=5)