Top Ten movies of all-time

Damn, I used to have a list of top 10 films lying around, but I can’t find it, so I’ll have to wing it…

Citizen Kane
Night of the Hunter
The Player
The Road Warrior
Dr. Strangelove
The General
Glengarry Glen Ross
This Is Spinal Tap
Star Wars
Brazil

  1. Once Upon a Time in America: Flawed I know but there’s something about the movie that I love.

I can’t really put a no. to the rest so in no particular order:
The Big Lebowski
Cinema Paradiso. Allllfrrredooo :smiley:
A Matter of Life and Death. (Stairway to Heaven in the States. As magical as they come.)
12 Angry Men
Seven Samurai
Yojimbo (duh!)
Godfather 1+2
Goodfellas
Life of Brian

Oh and a special mention for A Man For All Seasons. What a movie.

I always have trouble remembering all of my top ten at once, but I’ll give it a shot. In no order:

Fargo
The Sixth Sense
The Usual Suspects
Silence Of The Lambs
The Princess Bride
The Big Chill
Dazed And Confused
Heathers (my #1)
L.A. Confidential
The Godfather

Well, whaddaya know? I remembered them all? I’ve got to get that list laminated. :wink:

I forgot all about that movie! That is a great one; I want to squeeze that into my list somewhere.

Heh, I always love the variety in these types of polls, and I, like one of the other respondents, wonder how many folks are putting out lists that they think will make them appear to be artsy or sophisticated. But I think we should all give each other the benefit of the doubt, as unsubstantiated accusation gets us nowhere…

On the flip side of the coin…

Beastmaster II? You’ve Got Mail?! Dungeons & Dragons?!?!?!

For those of you who put these on here, would you mind explaining why you did? I could hardly imagine how these would fit anyone’s definition of greatness, though I guess a personal attachment to anything is possible. I mean, I liked You’ve Got Mail to an extent, but how does that rise above other pictures of its type to be a top 10 movie? D&D was just so horrible that it made me ashamed to be a fantasy genre fan… But if someone really likes it, please share! I don’t want to start any sort of flaming argument, but I want to know what about these movies makes them one of the 10 best, in someone’s mind.
Oh, and my list, based on my enjoyment of the films on any or all levels (intellectual, emotional, funny-bone etc.)

  • The Shawshank Redemption. This movie struck a chord with me that still resonates each time I see it. Timeless. Perfect distance from the main character. Patience. Friendship. Sanity. Satisfying.

  • Memento. So striking and engaging that I felt tired after watching it, though I still had the feeling of “wow, that was two hours already?” Masterfully crafted, with a great twist ending.

  • The Godfather. An epic family drama that happens to be set in a mafia world. Bold, believable characters. Deep twisting plotlines and character development. Beautifully shot and edited.

  • My Life As A Dog (Swedish). The best movie starring children I have ever seen. Ingemar jumps off of the screen and into reality. He is real. The other kids are real. They’re exuberant, kind, cruel, exploring, clumsy, and so refreshingly true. But it isn’t really about children, so much as living.

  • Princess Mononoke (Japanese). Seems to be popular around here. Best animated film I’ve seen, and one of the best period. Complex themes, complex relationships, and some of the most distinctive and beautiful imagery to grace the screen. The final conversation between the boy and Mononoke struck me as perfect (you go your way, I’ll go mine. We’ll meet, here in the middle, every once in a while).

  • Amelie (French). I guess some may say it is merely a cutesie movie that is quirkier than normal (some of my friends do, anyway), but I was deeply drawn to the Amelie character, and thought that the movie did a superb job at exploring the theme of isolation. I loved almost all of the characters and their interactions.

  • Il postino (Italian). Probably the best movie called “The Postman” in all the world ;). I don’t know why I liked this movie so much. I guess it was the great acting, and I loved the story of the man being inspired by the vacationing poet, and how much it means to the postman and how little it means to the celebrity. The resolution of this pushes the film into greatness.

  • Star Wars (+ Empire, Return). Enter this world of epic myth, of an intergalactic space empire filled with millions of species and robots, of dreams of hope for a better universe. And don’t look back. Yes, the movies have bits of camp and bad acting, but the sheer ambition of the original series and the expansion of my fantastical imaginings still puts it firmly on my great movies list, and I will always enjoy watching them.

  • Black Hawk Down. Start flaming now :slight_smile: The best documentary-style war-movie I’ve ever seen (yes I’ve seen Saving Private Ryan), despite some clumsiness in characte building scenes towards the beginning. The action is unparalleled and startlingly honest, and roughness of cuts in 1st person view is balanced by the perspective of overhead views. The emergence from the warzone was odd and confusing (caravan just leaves them behind??), but everything in the middle 3/4 of the movie was golden. Very little of the cliche warfilm sentimentality during that chunk; “it’s about the man standing next to you”, or something to that effect. Perhaps the movie errs on the side of just having action without commentary, but I felt that the commentary was mostly silent and pervasive (heh, why do I feel the need to explain this one so much?). This is what vague, wishy-washy politics brings to our soldiers. See it how you will. Hoo-uah.

  • Casablanca. A well told story with real star power somehow mixed in with grace and subtelty. I didn’t think I would like it, having grown up a 40 years after its release. Surprise, I loved it.

  • La Vita E Bella (Italian). Extremely funny classy humor for the first half, and then a strange, disjointed sadness-humor for the second half. I guess I knew too much about concentration camps to know that it wasn’t realistic, and it threw me off, but I still felt a great attachment to the characters and their situation…

  • Schindler’s List. Speaking of concentration camps… Powerful, one of the few movies to make me cry (yes, that was probably by design, but who cares). Amon Goeth is one of the most interesting characters I’ve seen. Haunting. I know that Schindler is the guy that we all want to be in that miserable place, but a guy like that is one in a million. And look what it took to get him there. Most of us would be silent accomplices or murderers…
    I guess that’s more han 10 already. Just missing the cut were Citizen Kane (I really liked it but could not love it), Dr. Strangeglove, Forrest Gump, LA Confidential, The Godfather II, Groundhog Day (the more I think about it, the more I like it), American Beauty, The Sixth Sense, Rouge, Bleu (tricoleurs series, French), gosh, and quite a few others I’m sure…

I haven’t seen a lot of the movies some of you have been citing; I guess it’s hard to know which of the indies to watch if you don’t have a lot of friends who’re into it (or if you’re not steeped in it yourself).

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You know, I’ve actually thought about this one :slight_smile:

I’m like a number of other posters here - I like a lot of the movies on the Directors Top Ten list, but I haven’t seen a few on the Critic’s list and of the ones I have seen, I like some of them less than the ones on the Director’s list.

Since my list has almost nothing to do with artsy, fancy “film-worthiness”, it is gonna get SO flamed …

So, my personal faves - the movies that I quote, keep watching over and over, have in my DVD collection, etc.

  1. The Princess Bride - oh come on! It’s got both Andre the Giant AND Wally Shawn!!
  2. Young Frankenstein
  3. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
  4. Rope
  5. Real Genius
  6. Taps
  7. 2001 a Space Odyssey
  8. Citizen Kane
  9. Magnolia
  10. Casablanca (I STILL cry at the end…)

Well, if you can separate liebestod form the other themes that Cronenberg was trying to address, good on you. My quibble is that IMO, Cronenberg failed artistically in handling the themes of sex/technology, sex/violence, and so on. Your opinion differs, and that’s fine. What royally hacks me off is your assumption that, because I disagree with you about the artistic qualities of the film, that therefore I don’t understand it. Your condescending manner is genuinely irritating.

Re Crash–on the [Rotten Tomatoes](http://Rotten Tomatoes.com) Web site, Crash got 8 positive and 8 negative reviews, earning it a Rotten Meter score of 50 percent.
Desson Howe of the Washington Post said:

OTOH, Roger Ebert gave it 3 1/2 stars and said:

I would say this this why the film fails, but, hey, we all have opinions. I, at least, don’t act as if mine were delivered by the finger of God from Mt. Sinai.

gobear, gobear, gobear. I’m not saying my opinion is superior to yours; I was protesting the fact that YOU implied that YOUR opinion was stone FACT. Little bit of blackened kettle going on here, hon.

SPECIFICALLY, I have an issue when people say, instead of something like “That movie didn’t speak to me, or it didn’t work for me, or I didn’t get it,” something like “There’s nothing in that movie to like.” The latter implies that anyone who DID find something in the movie to like is an idiot.

Follow me here. I’m not against negative opinions: for someone to say “this movie does X or says X and I don’t like that” doesn’t bother me; that’s an expressed opinion, not a statement that the vessel is empty.

Again, please try to understand the VERY SPECIFIC issue I’m trying to explain here. NOT that, if you and I have differing opinions, mine’s right and yours is not. (Tired here, struggling to be clear; might get repetitious.) If you had said, “What Crash has to say, I didn’t like” I’d never have objected, which is of course kind of what you finally DID say. But no; you said, in essence, “Crash has nothing to say.” That is simply not true, unless you add the qualifier “–to me.”

AGAIN–try on for size, if you would, my analogy of the computer-generated 3D optic illusion. How obnoxiously arrogant would it be for me to say, after failing to bring the image into resolution, that “There is no image there.” It’s only in expressing that SPECIFIC kind of criticism that I object to.

I tend to stay away from threads like “The ten worst movies of all time” because they tend to be FULL of that kind of arrogant bullshit: people saying “There’s nothing in it” rather than “I don’t see anything in it.” If I see something in a movie–or if you do, whoever–then IT’S THERE. It may not be visible to everyone, but it’s there, otherwise you or I wouldn’t have seen it. So it’s arrogant and insulting for someone else, who maybe DOESN’T see it, to state that it’s not there, rather than the more honest–“I don’t see it there.”

And quoting critics at me will get you nowhere: it’s not unheard of for the majority of critics to be entirely whooshed by a movie; I can think of three such examples off the top of my head, but I’ll save them for another debate.

Sorry, one more thing.

The reason I make such a big deal about this is that I learned the above the hard way. A couple of movies that I now LOVE and respect enormously spoke to me NOT AT ALL the first time I saw them. I was totally whooshed (as were, in the case of one of these movies, the critical majority). The second time, however, I was floored by what I had missed the first time but was able to see the second time. And of course, it was there all the time: I had just failed to see it. This experience kind of humbled me as far as making definitive statements about what is NOT in a movie; I try to make my criticism, if it’s negative, based on what IS in the movie, but that I don’t like, rather than assume–as I feel you have in this case–that, Honey, if I don’t see it, then it just ain’t there.

An explanation. Ok. I tried to think of 9 of the worst movies I had ever seen. I listed them out and ended with Citizen Kane for the punchline, since it almost inevitably is called the greatest movie ever made (it put me to sleep when I tried to watch it, but in all fairness to Welles, I was very tired at the time, and haven’t attempted to watch it since). I actually intended my post on more than one level than simple wisecrack. It was a satire on those who always post to these threads with obscure foreign films that eight people have seen, and are considered deep cinema. It was also a commentary on the complete subjectivity of these kinds of things. One man’s Federico Fellini is another man’s Michael Bay.

I can’t answer for You’ve Got Mail. It was presumably one of Bindlestiff’s ten favorite films (see point two of my explanation).

As one of those who included many foreign films in my list I feel I must respond. First of all, two of the movies I listed (Santa Sangre and Profondo Rosso) are frikkin’ slasher movies. The Fellini movie in my list is the only horror movie he made. These are not pretentious films, and those who feel that “art films” are pretentious are missing out on some damn fine entertainment.
The “keepin’ it real”, jes’ plain folks type of anti intelectualism is just as much snobbishness as someone who never watches comercial cinema (I’ve never actually met anyone like that myself).

It was nothing personal, I made my satirical post early on, based mostly on typical “Critic’s lists” and previous threads. I’m just bitter that all the critics trash my favorite movies every chance they get. I’m pretty cynical about the entertainment industry as a whole, though, so when I see the term “popcorn” movie, I read “popcorn” as “unwatchable”. When I see the opportunity for a joke, I take it.