# Top Ten Scientific Proofs of Creation **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 19, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231 "2012-04-19T02:09:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/202 "2012-04-20T17:25:15Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > . . The eye of several species of octopi evolved on a different path than that of vertebrates. In the case of the octopi, there is no ‘blind spot’. This makes this eye design inherently superior to that employed by every sighted vertebrate species. Evolution can explain this. Can your religion explain this? > Do you believe deity loves octopi more than dogs, cats, hippos, crocodiles, birds, fish, and humans? > > . . . Ph’nglui Mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn! ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/203 "2012-04-20T17:50:25Z")
The human body was too complex to have evolved on its own! It must have been created by God! Except all the bad/inefficient stuff like vestigial organs, our stupid nervous system that has things like piss-shivers, hiccups, and the fact that our main pleasure center is also where our excrement comes out. Our immune system that for many people ends up attacking their own body, or over-reacting to otherwise harmless substances like pollen. Or our teeth that naturally would all rot out by the time we were in our 30’s or 40’s if it weren’t for modern dentistry. Or… oh you know, the fact that we’re nearly naked, pink, fleshy gross looking mammals, kind of like the naked mole rat.That must be the result of “the fall of man” and an “imperfect world” because of “original sin.” If you’ve ever wondered why a video game controller isn’t also a garbage bin, congratulations, you may be a creationist. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/204 "2012-04-20T17:58:23Z")
You know, if I were God and I wanted to prove a point, I’d just implant the \*memory \*of a flood in the brains of Noah and his family. It would achieve the same purpose, and be much simpler from a logistical standpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/205 "2012-04-20T18:06:08Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Ph’nglui Mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn! Oh look. Tentacles. Tentacles _everywhere_… ---
**Author:** ![Windsong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Windsong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windsong)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/206 "2012-04-20T18:10:33Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I was obviously wrong about the assumption that he was a ‘seagull’. > However, he has played true to form for your average garden-variety YEC. > > So predictable. > > You have to wonder if this guy has children and if they are as ill-trained in standard scientific principles as he is. Tennessee isn’t known for outstanding public schools. He may very well be home-indoctrinating (oops I mean home-schooling) the brood. > That is a big thing around these parts. There is a professor who teaches at one of the universities in Florida… James Lett: he wrote “A Field Guide to Critical Inquiry”. He is also the author of Lett’s FiLCHeRS Rule (Falsifiability, Logic, Comprehensiveness, Honesty, Replicability, and Sufficiency). Here’s the link if you haven’t already read or bookmarked it… > **[A Field Guide to Critical Thinking | Skeptical Inquirer](https://skepticalinquirer.org/1990/01/a-field-guide-to-critical-thinking/)** > > There are many reasons for the popularity of paranormal beliefs in the United States today, including: the irresponsibility of the mass media, who exploit t ... ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/207 "2012-04-20T18:11:44Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You know, if I were God and I wanted to prove a point, I’d just implant the \*memory \*of a flood in the brains of Noah and his family. It would achieve the same purpose, and be much simpler from a logistical standpoint. If I were a god and wanted to prove a point, I’d just make people born understanding what I want them to understand. But if there were still bad people, and I wanted all those bad people to die, why bother with a flood? I’d just have them fall down and die, perhaps painfully, if that was my wish. Why make all the animals and infants and babies and unborn drown too? In other words, why does a being with godly intellect seem to have the limited imagination of primitive humans? Oh right, to work in those mysterious ways… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/208 "2012-04-20T18:17:45Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > The human body was too complex to have evolved on its own! It must have been created by God! > > Except all the bad/inefficient stuff like vestigial organs, our stupid nervous system that has things like piss-shivers, hiccups, and the fact that our main pleasure center is also where our excrement comes out. Is that where the expression shit-for-brains comes from? ---
**Author:** ![PSico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e57/32.png) [@PSico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSico)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/209 "2012-04-20T19:11:17Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > You know, if I were God and I wanted to prove a point, I’d just implant the \*memory \*of a flood in the brains of Noah and his family. It would achieve the same purpose, and be much simpler from a logistical standpoint. If you were God, would you want to prove a point? If you were God, would you have created brains and families and memories? If you were God, what purpose would you want to achieve? If you were God, how would you determine what is simpler, and would logistics be a consideration? It doesn’t matter what you would do if you were God because you are not God and you are not saying that you will ever be God. And, yeah, the “If I were God” line of reasoning bugs me, but, of course, it wouldn’t bug me if _I_ were God …😉 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/210 "2012-04-20T19:18:47Z")
> [@PSico](#): > > It doesn’t matter what you would do if you were God because you are not God Of course it matters. If a mortal human can out reason, or out design, etc… any religion’s God, then it’s a damn good bet that that God is a pretty poor concept and will generally necessitate a retreat to the “mysterious ways” bastion. ---
**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/211 "2012-04-20T19:21:16Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > The human body was too complex to have evolved on its own! It must have been created by God! > > Except all the bad/inefficient stuff like vestigial organs, our stupid nervous system that has things like piss-shivers, hiccups, and the fact that our main pleasure center is also where our excrement comes out. Our immune system that for many people ends up attacking their own body, or over-reacting to otherwise harmless substances like pollen. Or our teeth that naturally would all rot out by the time we were in our 30’s or 40’s if it weren’t for modern dentistry. Or… oh you know, the fact that we’re nearly naked, pink, fleshy gross looking mammals, kind of like the naked mole rat.That must be the result of “the fall of man” and an “imperfect world” because of “original sin.” > > If you’ve ever wondered why a video game controller isn’t also a garbage bin, congratulations, you may be a creationist. Seriously, what is up with nearly every durn atheist response sauteed in sarcasm? Atheists will focus on the minute negative while completely ignoring the extreme positive. In other words, there are thousands of human functions that make living possible and pleasurable. Look at the wonders of sex, a beautiful physical action that bears emotional bonding. I guess we just got lucky on that one with evolution huh? Why yes, original sin does bear a factor as it brought death into this world. Death is ugly and disgusting. Why didn’t those random lottery winning elements create a deposing corpse as something beautiful, instead of gray rotten flesh, like a beautiful rainbow of colors? It’s all random, it could have happened right? The physical realm certainly did change as seen in Genesis 3:16-20. Pain was increased in childbirth. Thorns and thistles now grown. Whether God did this purposely as a punishment or it is just a reality of sin, I can’t say, but it certainly explains why the body is in a process of “dying” from birth. BTW, I don’t know about you, but my colon is certainly not my main pleasure center. LOL ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/212 "2012-04-20T19:23:58Z")
From an engineering perspective, which was your earlier point, sex is horribly engineered. Ever heard the phrase ‘the playground between the sewers’? And that’s just ONE of the myriad poorly engineered aspects to sex in humans. Of course, since we weren’t engineered and instead evolved, it makes perfect sense. -XT ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/213 "2012-04-20T19:32:36Z")
> [@PSico](#): > > If you were God, would you want to prove a point? > If you were God, would you have created brains and families and memories? > If you were God, what purpose would you want to achieve? > If you were God, how would you determine what is simpler, and would logistics be a consideration? > > It doesn’t matter what you would do if you were God because you are not God and you are not saying that you will ever be God. > > And, yeah, the “If I were God” line of reasoning bugs me, but, of course, it wouldn’t bug me if _I_ were God …😉 This is a legitimate line of inquiry, as we are limited by our human minds, imaginations, senses and experiences we cannot help but define God in our own image. This leads to all sorts of logical contradictions. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/214 "2012-04-20T19:33:14Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Seriously, what is up with nearly every durn atheist response sauteed in sarcasm? What kind of response do you expect when you make an assertion that is ridiculous on its face and which everybody has already heard a ton of times? “Gee, I hadn’t thought of that?” **drewtwo99** ’s tone was sarcastic, but he also gave you a thorough response that contains a bunch of sensible counterpoints to your statement. **Gagundathar** and **iiandyiiii** offered some other examples. In response, you have… nothing. > [@](#): > > Atheists will focus on the minute negative while completely ignoring the extreme positive. They’re ignoring nothing. They’re making an entirely sensible response to your statement. You said humans were designed with “fore knowledge,” and they’re pointing out that our “design” actually contains a bunch of flaws that an omnipotent being could have easily corrected. The existence of those flaws is a very strong piece of evidence that we did evolve gradually over time and that nothing was designed by an all-knowing being with a goal in mind. > [@](#): > > I guess we just got lucky on that one with evolution huh? There’s no luck involved. Sex feels that way so you will keep doing it. ---
**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/215 "2012-04-20T19:33:15Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > How about the parasitoid wasp (Peristenus digoneutis)? > Are they a marvel of engineering? > Do you believe that your deity enjoyed creating such a creature? > > As a point of discussion: The human body is notoriously poorly designed. > > The knees don’t work well. The birth canal is obviously not large enough for a normal sized infant birth without significant travail and possible loss of life. The ‘oh-so-elegantly designed’ eyes are wired backwards and have a large blind spot near the middle of the focal area of the retina. > > The eye of several species of octopi evolved on a different path than that of vertebrates. In the case of the octopi, there is no ‘blind spot’. This makes this eye design inherently superior to that employed by every sighted vertebrate species. Evolution can explain this. Can your religion explain this? > Do you believe deity loves octopi more than dogs, cats, hippos, crocodiles, birds, fish, and humans? > > Finally, there are well-documented cases of non-human animals grieving themselves to death and in human terms this can be considered a form of suicide since it stems from a lack of desire to continue living. Tursiops truncatus (Bottle-nosed dolphin) is a very good example of this phenomenon. > > Please provide scientific evidence to support your assertions in your following posts. To do otherwise would be to tacitly admit that you are not willing to discuss this matter in a scientific manner. > > ETA: Argh! Ninjaed again. Must… keep… posts… short! So if we are nothing more than random evolved animals, our emotions and feelings are nothing more than chemical reactions in the brain. Personality and talent are meaningless. You also have to believe that every human being is not a unique creation with a distinctive personality. When you tell your wife or kids that you love them, it is only because it sounds good because in reality, you know that any sensation of love is nothing more than chemicals. I recently watched the movie, The Grapes of Wrath. Henry Fonda was a good looking young man in that film. He no longer exists. So am I suppose to believe that there can certainly be another Henry Fonda human being? Someone who looks, talks, acts, and thinks just like him? Sorry, I’m going to go with the route that is more plausible. Henry Fonda was a uniquely created human being and there will never be another person like him just like there will never be another person just like me. You can’t say that with other animal species. I’ve had cats and dogs all my life growing up. And guess what, they pretty much all act the same and look the same. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/216 "2012-04-20T19:35:29Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > our emotions and feelings are nothing more than chemical reactions in the brain. Personality and talent are meaningless. What the hell does this have to do with anything? > [@](#): > > I’ve had cats and dogs all my life growing up. And guess what, they pretty much all act the same and look the same. Yes, that’s right. [Dogs all look the same because humans played no role in their development.](http://www.justdogbreeds.com/all-dog-breeds.html) ---
**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/217 "2012-04-20T19:41:12Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > What kind of response do you expect when you make an assertion that is ridiculous on its face and which everybody has already heard a ton of times? I’m sorry, I would just expect a bit of respect for someone’s different belief sets instead of being rude and throwing it back in their face. It’s called maturity. Look it up. Instead, it’s nothing more than an intimidation tactic to make the Christian leave, and then you can gloat, oh he’s running away. haha. Exactly what happened in this thread. If you’ve heard it a thousand times, why even bother responding? > [@Marley23](#): > > “Gee, I hadn’t thought of that?” **drewtwo99** ’s tone was sarcastic, but he also gave you a thorough response that contains a bunch of sensible counterpoints to your statement. **Gagundathar** and **iiandyiiii** offered some other examples. In response, you have… nothing. > They’re ignoring nothing. They’re making an entirely sensible response to your statement. You said humans were designed with “fore knowledge,” and they’re pointing out that our “design” actually contains a bunch of flaws that an omnipotent being could have easily corrected. The existence of those flaws is a very strong piece of evidence that we did evolve gradually over time and that nothing was designed by an all-knowing being with a goal in mind. > There’s no luck involved. Sex feels that way so you will keep doing it. But couldn’t a reality have occured where sex was extremely unpleasant for human beings but needed for procreation? You’re going to have to at least admit that evolution gave you the winning jackpot on that facet of life! ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/218 "2012-04-20T19:41:20Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > _Seriously, what is up with nearly every durn atheist response sauteed in sarcasm?_ Atheists will focus on the minute negative while completely ignoring the extreme positive. In other words, there are thousands of human functions that make living possible and pleasurable. Look at the wonders of sex, a beautiful physical action that bears emotional bonding. I guess we just got lucky on that one with evolution huh? > Why yes, original sin does bear a factor as it brought death into this world. Death is ugly and disgusting. \*\*Why didn’t those random lottery winning elements create a deposing corpse as something beautiful, instead of gray rotten flesh, like a beautiful rainbow of colors? It’s all random, it could have happened right? \*\* > > The physical realm certainly did change as seen in Genesis 3:16-20. Pain was increased in childbirth. Thorns and thistles now grown. Whether God did this purposely as a punishment or it is just a reality of sin, I can’t say, but it certainly explains why the body is in a process of “dying” from birth. > > BTW, I don’t know about you, but my colon is certainly not my main pleasure center. LOL Italicized part: Perhaps if you would (pertinently, see my remarks to the bolded part) cease your incessant, counterfactual and misleading butchery of the theories you seek to criticize, atheists (and the rest of a scientific community thoroughly fed up with this sort of antics) might extend you the courtesy of not treating you like a blundering buffoon. In short: Display common courtesy, debate fairly, and you shall receive in kind. So long as you insist on doing the opposite, expect snark and ridicule. This is a general rule of discussion most anywhere. Bold part: Aaaaaugh. No, no, no. Evolution is, in its very essence, completely antithetical to randomness! Why is that so preposterously difficult to thump into people? _Mutations_ are, insofar as I recall correctly, more or less random, but their survival most certainly is not - making their randomness _irrelevant_! Only mutations favourable, or at the very least not harmful enough to hurt chances of reproduction, survive. This filtering mechanism makes evolution the absolute opposite of random - in fact, it insures that over time, any given population will adapt to its environment or go extinct! Underlined part: Hate to break it to ya, Geep, but your main pleasure center, provided that you’re male, is your prostate. This is not up for debate. Neither is it up for debate that your prostate is most easily reached “through” your colon. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/219 "2012-04-20T19:43:48Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Atheists will focus on the minute negative while completely ignoring the extreme positive. If you want to be taken even remotely seriously while arguing teleology, you’re going to have to have a criterion for disproof. If we’re absolutely perfect apart from major design flaws that are explicable in evolutionary theory and are not so according to an omniscient benevolent design, then that should qualify as satisfying the null hypothesis. If your proposal has no criterion where it could be disproved, it is [not even wrong](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong). ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/220 "2012-04-20T19:52:05Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Seriously, what is up with nearly every durn atheist response sauteed in sarcasm? You try talking to someone who tries to substitute fairy tales for science and see how long you can keep a straight face. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > Look at the wonders of sex Without gratification, metabolically expensive actions are generally not engaged in with great frequency. Genes which code for greater sexual activity tend to out-compete those which code for lesser sexual activity. No mystery involved. Original sin, being imaginary, only plays a role in the world to the extent that its believers act on it. As for why a corpse doesn’t smell good, as with our OP, you are simply proclaiming your utter ignorance of the topic you’re expounding upon. Rather obviously, the evolutionary fitness of a corpse is _zero_. A corpse has no reproductive capabilities, because it’s dead. Genes only have selections pressures acting on them if they are heritable. That’s the same reason why selection pressures have given us relatively-healthy young while the older you get, especially once you pass your peak reproductive years, the more maladies pile up.The claim that women’s vaginas and/or pelvieses would be wider if God didn’t change things (as revealed by the scientific treatise, Genesis) is… an interesting idea. But no. Fossil evidence reveals that hominid pelvises aren’t ideal for childbearing. To say nothing of the ideological disconnect in worshiping a Monster God who didn’t just punish a couple of naked hippies for eating a fruit that a talking snake told them to eat, but decided that, yeah, it’d be a reasonable thing to punish all of their descendants, in perpetuity. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > So if we are nothing more than random evolved animals, our emotions and feelings are nothing more than chemical reactions in the brain. Personality and talent are meaningless. Even while our cognitive profile is undoubtedly the result of the complex interactions between neural geography and electrochemical interactions, that does not mean that there aren’t variations. Besides, the mind is what the brain does, and neural interconnectivity and geography varies extensively between individuals. The idea that love is ‘no more real’ than anything else is true, but it’s also no less real. Reality, as it’s been said, is whatever doesn’t vanish when you stop believing in it. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > You can’t say that with other animal species. I’ve had cats and dogs all my life growing up. And guess what, they pretty much all act the same and look the same. Any cat or dog owner on the planet who pays attention will know this is nonsense. Not that it matters. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231/221 "2012-04-20T19:57:24Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > But couldn’t a reality have occured where sex was extremely unpleasant for human beings but needed for procreation? That would not have worked too well… humans (and pretty much every other animal) have a strong desire for sex because that trait is a successful one- people (or animals) who WANT to have sex tend to have more sex, which means they have more offspring, which means the genes responsible for _desiring sex_ are propogated into the population. Keep in mind that this trait pretty much just had to evolve once- in our extremely distant ancestors- and it probably stuck around just because it’s so beneficial. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/top-ten-scientific-proofs-of-creation/619231.md?page=12)