# Torchwood - clarifications sought (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 3, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652 "2007-12-03T13:45:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/61 "2007-12-10T14:55:36Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] So he’s sort of a Kirk. [/QUOTE] But not as discriminating. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/62 "2007-12-10T19:43:17Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] The actress who played Martha Jones had earlier played one of the Torchwood drones in the penultimate ep of S2 of Doctor Who. [/QUOTE] Yes, but in that case there is a connection. The Torchwood girl was Martha’s … cousin, I think she said. I predict that Gwyneth and Gwen will turn out to be related. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/63 "2007-12-10T20:22:34Z")
[QUOTE=Peter Morris] Yes, but in that case there is a connection. The Torchwood girl was Martha’s … cousin, I think she said. [/QUOTE] I don’t recall hearing this, but it may have been in a scene deleted for Sci Fi broadcast. I see from Wikipedia that the references was in the episode “Smith and Jones” which was Martha’s first appearance. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/64 "2007-12-10T20:25:33Z")
I still liked in this episode the one guy calling the Dr (medical dr, not the dr) “House”… “You’ve got your diagnoses, House, now get on with it…” (paraphrased). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/65 "2007-12-10T20:32:02Z")
[QUOTE=Rhythmdvl] can Gwen _please_ tell her sweet baboo just a little about what she does? [/quote] She has, but she gave him an amnesia pill first. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/66 "2007-12-10T23:18:20Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Oh, my freaking god, yes! I never even saw this show, but I searched for that clip on YouTube and…gah…uhhh…wow…is it hot in here? _fans self_ I don’t even KNOW those people but my heart was breaking…among other physical responses… [/QUOTE] You know, I’ve got the ep recorded but decided to check it out on Youtube anyway. Imagine my (non) surprise when I clicked on one of the scenes and had to verify my age because people were flagging it as unsuitable for minors. :rolleyes: Ah well. At least their age verification is useless, so it’s not like it’s actually censored or anything. ---
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2007, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/67 "2007-12-10T23:44:23Z")
[QUOTE=Eyebrows 0f Doom] Actually, not only is he gay but he recently married his partner of 16 years in Cardiff, Wales. Are people here familiar with him as a singer or just from TV? I first saw him in the Kennedy Center’s production of **Company** a few years ago. I just caught up with this episode tonight and I had a few questions. What exactly happened after they opened the rift and Jack killed the big destroyer creature? Did time go back a day, a week? How was Reese still alive? I really didn’t get the mechanics of all that, but I think it’s simpler if I watch this show without trying to really put too much thought into it. What is the significance of the hand in the jar? It was mentioned in the first episode too I think, but never explained. I’m so glad we only have to wait a month until Season Two! [/QUOTE] _Springtime for Hitler and Germany_ The Producers, The Movie 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/68 "2007-12-11T04:40:20Z")
[QUOTE=ouryL] _Springtime for Hitler and Germany_ The Producers, The Movie 😃 [/QUOTE] I totally forgot he was in that! And a blonde too. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/69 "2007-12-11T13:54:46Z")
[QUOTE=levdrakon] You know, I’ve got the ep recorded but decided to check it out on Youtube anyway. Imagine my (non) surprise when I clicked on one of the scenes and had to verify my age because people were flagging it as unsuitable for minors. :rolleyes: Ah well. At least their age verification is useless, so it’s not like it’s actually censored or anything. [/QUOTE] [hijack]It’s not useless. You had to verify, so their rear ends are covered. I think it’s not a bad balance between freedom to access and our litigious society. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/70 "2007-12-11T14:13:10Z")
[QUOTE=Eyebrows 0f Doom] I totally forgot he was in that! And a blonde too. 😛 [/QUOTE] [Here you go.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4v6qRdnKas) [QUOTE=Otto] Unknown as of the end of S1 of Torchwood and S3 of Doctor Who. It may simply be that Russell Davies liked the actress enough to cast her in the new series. [/QUOTE] That is exactly what I read somewhere. Not that they might force a link later down the road but it would seem a little …forced. ---
**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/71 "2007-12-11T16:52:17Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] [Here you go.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4v6qRdnKas) [/QUOTE] Oh that is hilarious. I’d seen it before but completely missed John Barrowman - he looks good as a blonde! He really does have an impressive voice. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/72 "2007-12-11T17:27:30Z")
[QUOTE=NailBunny] Oh that is hilarious. I’d seen it before but completely missed John Barrowman - he looks good as a blonde! He really does have an impressive voice. [/QUOTE] [Another one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if1kUoDWt9w) Barrowman with Kevin Kline in _De-lovely_. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652/73 "2007-12-12T02:59:43Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] [Another one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if1kUoDWt9w) Barrowman with Kevin Kline in _De-lovely_. [/QUOTE] Wow thanks! I had never seen that before. Very cool and a nifty camera shot as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-clarifications-sought-open-spoilers/428652.md?page=3)