# Torchwood--Does it get better? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 12, 2012, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544 "2012-04-12T11:11:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/21 "2012-04-12T19:01:52Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Children of Earth was OK, though not anywhere near as earth-shatteringly amazing as it is generally made out to be. The most recent mini-series, whose name escapes me, was horrifyingly, embarrassingly bad. Really, really terrible. I watched Children of Earth in its original broadcast, which was over five consecutive nights and aired simultaneously in the US and the UK. I thoroughly enjoyed the story, and because of the simultaneous airing, was able to discuss it here with dopers in the UK. Also, seeing the story over five nights was fun. Miracle Day, on the other hand, wasn’t as compelling. As Drum God said, the idea was interesting, but the execution lacked and some plot points were left unexplained. Also the involvement of Starz mean that the production values were better, and I can watch Starz in HD, but have to watch BBC America (where the previous series aired) in standard definition. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/22 "2012-04-12T21:07:47Z")
That episode with the time travel to the '40s was the best episode of the 1st series. I found it hard work though and didn’t bother watching the other ones. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/23 "2012-04-12T21:15:13Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > That episode with the time travel to the '40s was the best episode of the 1st series. I found it hard work though and didn’t bother watching the other ones. It works better if you assume that the real reason the “original” Jack Harkness died the next day is that his own squad shot him down for being a poofter. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/24 "2012-04-13T01:25:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It works better if you assume that the real reason the “original” Jack Harkness died the next day is that his own squad shot him down for being a poofter. 🙂 You know, I didn’t think of it that way. I thought of it more like he was distracted thinking about the events of the night before. But you’re probably right! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/25 "2012-04-13T01:45:26Z")
> [@kath94](#): > > You know, I didn’t think of it that way. I thought of it more like he was distracted thinking about the events of the night before. But you’re probably right! :eek: …Wait I thought that WAS the point of the episode, that the guy’s bravery and tragic story was why Jack chose his identity(he had been working for Torchwood for what a century at least by that point he could have easily had any identity). ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/26 "2012-07-23T04:03:05Z")
To follow up: We had a hiatus, then returned to the series. In our opinion, season 2 is loads better than season 1, due to having more human-like main characters and more interesting moral and metaphysical dilemmas. And then Children of Earth is extremely good, for much the same reason. Season 4 isn’t on Netflix so we haven’t seen it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Feyrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/fbc32d/32.png) [@Feyrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feyrat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/27 "2012-07-23T05:18:02Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Should we give up now? Or does the show get better than this? No, it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/28 "2012-07-23T06:05:06Z")
I’ve been a fan from the first episode, but maybe It’s because I’ve never seen an episode of Dr, Who. The fate of Tosh, Owen and Ianto still bring out an emotional response in me to this day… ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544/29 "2012-07-31T01:40:23Z")
I would at least watch season 2 for when James Marsters shows up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torchwood-does-it-get-better/618544.md?page=1)