# Toronto Dopers! w4m - seeking dark and handsome tour guide

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 23, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855 "2007-07-23T17:02:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/21 "2007-07-24T15:38:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Lissla Lissar]  
Do this. You’ll love it. And you’ll be within easy walking distance of Bakka/Phoenix, the lovely sf/fantasy bookstore. Lots of decent cheap ethnically varied restaurants around where you’ll be, too. And fabric stores, and a bunch of bars and clubs.

We will be in moving chaos, but you could still come and meet the cats. I work evenings, so I’m free until four if I’m downtown, five if I’m near home.

You need to eat poutine, butter tarts, and nanaimo bars. Rebel House (pub) does a very yummy poutine. I would be happy to eat some with you. Mmm.  
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What’re nanaimo bars?

I would love to meet your cats and eat poutine with you in the afternoon, **Li-Li**. Sounds like a date to me! 😃 When would be a good day for you?

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/22 "2007-07-24T15:52:45Z")

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Mmmm. [Nanaimo bars](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanaimo_bars).

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/23 "2007-07-24T16:03:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
Mmmm. [Nanaimo bars](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanaimo_bars).  
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Um. Wow.

Between that and poutine I’m afraid I’ll be a shapeless bar by the time I leave Toronto. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/24 "2007-07-24T16:09:12Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Um. Wow.

Between that and poutine I’m afraid I’ll be a shapeless bar by the time I leave Toronto. :eek:  
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And don’t forget the butter tarts! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mindfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindfield/32/19759_2.png) [@Mindfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mindfield)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/25 "2007-07-24T16:17:51Z")

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And Coffee Crisp. Not commonly available in the US, and more’s the pity. It’s the most awesome mass-market chocolate bar ever.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/26 "2007-07-24T16:20:10Z")

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Er, shapeless bar? BLOB. I’ll be a shapeless blob, I meant to say.

Stop tempting me with more food, you evil people!

Okay. I am going to pick up a travel book today, hopefully. I think Lonely Planet just came out with a new Toronto guide this month.

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/27 "2007-07-24T16:27:08Z")

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We’ve got lots and _lots_ of food. With grease and lard and chocolate.

I think Wednesday would be best for me, since I’m not working. Possibly Driving Husband might be around, too, so you could meet him. You may or may not meet Mr. Lissar, since he’s working and teaching most of the classes at the dojo right now.

Tea and cookies and butter tarts and poutine. Anyone want to meet for dinner at Rebel House on Wednesday evening? They have a good beer selection, and the food’s great.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/28 "2007-07-24T16:33:05Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Stop tempting me with more food, you evil people!  
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Who, us? \<innocent look\>

> [@HazelNutCoffee](#):
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> Okay. I am going to pick up a travel book today, hopefully. I think Lonely Planet just came out with a new Toronto guide this month.

We can tell you about all the things it got wrong after you arrive. 🙂

> [@Lissla Lissar](#):
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> Anyone want to meet for dinner at Rebel House on Wednesday evening? They have a good beer selection, and the food’s great.

That would be great! (Wednesday the 8th of August?)

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/29 "2007-07-24T17:41:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
That would be great! (Wednesday the 8th of August?)  
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I certainly hope so, since that’s the only Wednesday I’m going to be in Toronto. 🙂

By the way, what are the smoking laws in Toronto? Has it been banned in all bars and restaurants?

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/30 "2007-07-24T17:46:06Z")

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Yup. Sorry. No smoking. In fact, we beat smokers caught indulging in public. With whips.

While wearing leather.  
Someone want to volunteer to dress up? Not me. I’m fat with baby right now.

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**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/31 "2007-07-24T17:48:04Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]

By the way, what are the smoking laws in Toronto? Has it been banned in all bars and restaurants?  
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It’s still permitted in some bar and restaurant patios, ones with no trace of a roof. A little hard to find, though.

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/32 "2007-07-24T17:51:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
And don’t forget the butter tarts! 🙂  
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[aside]He he… tarts…[/aside]

Come to San Diego next, **HNC**! My wife, **fetus** , and I will show you a good time… I live about 5 mins. from [The Wild Animal Park](http://www.sandiegozoo.org/wap/index.html), so we can go look at the critters and then back to our place for soju and sam-gyup-sal! 🆒

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/33 "2007-07-24T18:03:49Z")

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> [@Lissa](#):
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> Yup. Sorry. No smoking. In fact, we beat smokers caught indulging in public. With whips.
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> While wearing leather.

Promises, promises.

Seriously, will I get in trouble if I light up outside? I’ve cut down to 1-3 a day, but I dunno if I can go a week without driving myself a bit insane.

[QUOTE=Astroboy14]  
Come to San Diego next, **HNC**! My wife, **fetus** , and I will show you a good time… I live about 5 mins. from [The Wild Animal Park](http://www.sandiegozoo.org/wap/index.html), so we can go look at the critters and then back to our place for soju and sam-gyup-sal! 🆒  
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There are few things I won’t do for samgyupsal. 😛

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/34 "2007-07-24T18:50:02Z")

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On a completely-unrelated note, you might think of getting your Canadian dollars sooner rather than later. The Canadian dollar [continues to rise](http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/239167) relative to the US dollar.

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/35 "2007-07-24T19:28:10Z")

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You can smoke outside, and on some patios. Most places are no-indoor-smoking now. You’ll be fine. It’s nice weather for being outside and smoking.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/36 "2007-07-24T19:36:51Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Seriously, will I get in trouble if I light up outside? I’ve cut down to 1-3 a day, but I dunno if I can go a week without driving myself a bit insane.  
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I am a non-smoker, so I cannot answer this authoritatively, but I get the impression that there are very few to no places that allow smoking indoors.

I believe that this varies according to local jurisdiction. I don’t know the details though. Where I work, they put in a special separately-vented smoking room when the building was built, but then a couple of years ago they closed it because of some change in regulations.

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**Author:** ![Canadiangirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Canadiangirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadiangirl)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/37 "2007-07-24T19:39:20Z")

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If you have enough energy, walk up Yonge Street to Bloor, west on Bloor to Madison Avenue and go to the Madison Avenue pub. They have a great patio and you can smoke out there.

St. Lawrence Market is good. Excellent, make it yourself lunch stuff.

Swing around Greek town, along the Danforth (eastern extension of Bloor Street) for some excellent greek food and dinner.

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**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\
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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
I am a non-smoker, so I cannot answer this authoritatively, but I get the impression that there are very few to no places that allow smoking indoors.

I believe that this varies according to local jurisdiction. I don’t know the details though. Where I work, they put in a special separately-vented smoking room when the building was built, but then a couple of years ago they closed it because of some change in regulations.  
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Not much variance according to locality anymore. No smoking in enclosed workplaces, enclosed public places, places that serve food or drink and have a roof (the definition of “roof” gets kind of tricky). Believe me, I know a bit about the subject.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/39 "2007-07-24T19:58:44Z")

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Well, I guess if I stay outside it shouldn’t be too much of a problem. If the weather’s nice I imagine I’ll be out and about most of the time anyway.

**Canadiangirl** , thanks for the bar rec. At least I’ll know one bar that will let me smoke in peace. 🙂

ETA: thanks for the heads-up on the currency, **Sunspace**! The US dollar is getting cheaper by the day - which I’m glad of most of the time, actually, since the money my parents send me is Korean won.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toronto-dopers-w4m-seeking-dark-and-handsome-tour-guide/412855/40 "2007-07-24T20:08:16Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Well, I guess if I stay outside it shouldn’t be too much of a problem. If the weather’s nice I imagine I’ll be out and about most of the time anyway.

**Canadiangirl** , thanks for the bar rec. At least I’ll know one bar that will let me smoke in peace. 🙂

ETA: thanks for the heads-up on the currency, **Sunspace**! The US dollar is getting cheaper by the day - which I’m glad of most of the time, actually, since the money my parents send me is Korean won.  
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Ain’t it great? I pay my yearly web hosting fees in constant US dollars and they’ve decreased from CAD 160 to CAD 105 in the past four years.

See whether you can get some won converted directly to Canadian dollars, to avoid double exchange fees. I’ll ask my friend who worked at the airport currecy exchange whether they handle won; I expect they do. 🙂

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