# Toronto's alleged crack smoking mayor. Why is he still in office? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 26, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410 "2013-05-26T15:45:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/121 "2013-11-07T20:40:47Z")
[QUOTE=Euphonius Polemic] A Ford sex tape. Yes, I just threw up in my mouth a little. [/QUOTE] > [@Malthus](#): > > There are rumours floating about that there is another tape … and it’s a sex tape. :eek: Would you two please, please, stop spreading such mental images! :eek::eek::eek: ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/122 "2013-11-07T20:54:07Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > [**The video and story**](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/07/mayor_rob_ford_caught_in_video_rant.html). This does raise the interesting question of whether he could be removed from office if he gets Form-One’d ---
**Author:** ![Rainbow\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f19dbf/32.png) [@Rainbow\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbow_Warrior)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/123 "2013-11-07T20:59:39Z")
Why not do some community service in a rehab … ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/124 "2013-11-07T21:06:13Z")
> [@Rainbow\_Warrior](#): > > Why not do some community service in a rehab … He is already – he’s mayor in the council chambers. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/125 "2013-11-07T21:08:36Z")
What’s “Form-One’d”? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/126 "2013-11-07T21:17:57Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > What’s “Form-One’d”? [Form 1](http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/forms/ssbforms.nsf/AttachDocsPublish/014-6427-41~1/$File/6427-41_.pdf) (Usually by way of a police officer handing the person over to a doctor in a secure facility and asking for a 72 hour hold. By the end of the hold, the doctor with say “Fly, be free!” or else ask the patient to “Walk this way” to the ward.) ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/127 "2013-11-07T23:47:01Z")
I found [this](https://www.facebook.com/therobsheridan/posts/10151971696990465) on facebook today It’s the first time in this entire mess I’ve laughed out loud. Quoted here for the facebook avoiders among us, all credit to Rob Sheridan: > [@](#): > > I’m sorry, but someone needs to fire the season three writing staff on the hit cable drama “Rob Ford”. > > Here they created this great character (played brilliantly by Goldfinger’s Gert Fröbe); a pandering, mean-spirited, drug-addled alcoholic at the helm of one of North America’s largest and most revered cities. Far-fetched, sure, but we suspended our disbelief because it was just damn good television. > > Then the way they started to flesh out his backstory! Genius. The three brothers growing up the suburbs, peddling drugs and engaging in all manner of low-level thuggery. The drunk driving. The spousal abuse. The almost Shakespearean drama of an inept little fat boy thrust into the seat of power by his somehow even more malevolent, dead-eyed older brother, hungry to take an entire city (and, really, the whole concept of democracy) hostage. > > They even had the good sense to break up the drama with a little comic relief – though some of the slapstick did get a little silly at times… I mean, really, who’s gonna walk straight into a camera? > > Nevertheless: Solid show. > > But this latest episode, I dunno… You can only strain credulity so much, ya know? I feel like they wrote themselves into a corner. Faced with incontrovertible proof of the guy’s misdoings – the drugs, the drinking, the criminal associates, the extortion, the cover-up, the drugs again – they realized they finally, at long last, had to have him admit his mistakes publicly, however obtuse and insincere his apology. > > So in the last act of the most recent episode, they put him in a press conference, because, really, they sort of had to. Reality demanded it. But boy, what a missed opportunity. Even the worst sociopaths on television have moments of clarity where they are honest with themselves and others. > Hell, Walter White at least TRIED quitting being a meth cook. Don Draper copped to his affairs. Even Tony Soprano, a mob henchman, recognized when he needed help and sought therapy. > > Tony Soprano. Tony Fucking Soprano. > > Instead, they’ve decided to keep Rob Ford going down the same, tired road of denial and self-deception without a care to himself, his family, or the people who elected him. At some point, even anti-heros need to have qualities we route for. If he had shown even a glimmer of actual regret, or displayed a hint that he was ready to take his addictions seriously and get help, that would be something. Instead he’s just this irredeemable asshole that not even the most sympathetic viewer in his right mind could hope to still care about. > > I dunno. I’ll keep watching. I mean, it’s HBO and I paid for it. But at some point we have to be able to believe such a monster could actually exist in real life. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/128 "2013-11-08T02:02:12Z")
I’ll say one thing for Rob Ford - he’s really making the rest of the world re-consider their Canadian stereotypes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/129 "2013-11-08T04:02:36Z")
When his sex tape comes out, I want to post his posterior for posterity sake to XVideos. Bound to appeal to a lot of fetishists. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/130 "2013-11-08T04:34:15Z")
Stop SAYING THOSE WORDS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/131 "2013-11-08T05:13:47Z")
I was chatting with Mrs Piper about all the tapes that are supposedly out there about Mr Ford, and she said, “what’s next, I wonder?” We looked at each other and simultaneously said, “Rock and roll!” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/132 "2013-11-08T05:19:19Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I’ll say one thing for Rob Ford - he’s really making the rest of the world re-consider their Canadian stereotypes. 🙂 Except the politeness one. **Canadians:** “Yes, the mayor of Canada’s largest city is widely rumoured to have a drug issue.” “Yes, he himself refers to his drunken stupors.” “Yes, he’s on video threatening to kill someone, apparently while in a drunken stupor.” “Yes, the police chief held a press conference announcing a video of the mayor smoking crack, which will be used in evidence against one of his close friends who is facing an extortion charge in relation to drug-trafficking.” “Yes, he walks into cameras.” **Everyone else in the World:** **“_And he’s still in office?!?_”** **Canadians:** “Well, those are his personal issues, aren’t they? We don’t pry. He’ll deal with them, no doubt.” ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/133 "2013-11-08T05:32:33Z")
You haven’t been reading the comments on the stories in the Globe and Mail, I take it? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/134 "2013-11-09T14:56:04Z")
Rob Ford’s family has _finally_ admitted he has a problem and needs help They agree he’s overweight and should lose a few pounds. :rolleyes: [QUOTE=Rob Ford’s Mum] “He’s got a weight problem” that affects his demeanour, argued his mother. “He’s got a huge weight problem and he knows that. And I think that is the first thing he has to attack.” [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Councillor Doug Ford] On Friday, Ford’s closest ally, brother Doug, continued to staunchly defend his sibling. The city councillor told a Toronto radio station that “Rob (should) seek a little bit of counselling,” go on vacation for a week or two, and lose 50 or 60 pounds. [/QUOTE] Other, more disinterested, observers suggest they’re focussing on the wrong problem: [Addiction experts urge Toronto Mayor Rob Ford to get help](http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/addiction-experts-urge-toronto-mayor-rob-ford-to-get-help-1.1535236#ixzz2kA0QFPjn) ---
**Author:** ![LC\_Strawhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@LC\_Strawhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LC_Strawhouse)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/135 "2013-11-09T15:06:49Z")
If anyone is wondering who Rob Ford’s supporters are, look no further than these letters - many Canadians are doing their best to imitate American tea partiers: [“Better a crack smoking mayor than a leftist”](http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/11/07/todays-letters-better-a-crack-smoking-mayor-than-a-leftist/) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/136 "2013-11-09T19:13:17Z")
Anybody catch this latest little gem by Rob Ford?:[Drunken rant](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/07/mayor_rob_ford_caught_in_video_rant.html). Edit: Ooops, I see you have. Nothing gets by you folks, does it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/137 "2013-11-09T19:15:19Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Rob Ford’s family has _finally_ admitted he has a problem and needs help > > They agree he’s overweight and should lose a few pounds. :rolleyes: I’m not surprised that they’re also in denial about his problems. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/138 "2013-11-09T20:05:15Z")
Ford doesn’t want to quit drinking and doing whatever else he does the get blitzed. He won’t go into rehab because people generally expect you to give up drinking and drugging at least for a little while. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/139 "2013-11-14T05:25:39Z")
Mayor Ford’s St. Patrick’s Day in 2012 was apparently quite an event. Several news outlets went to court to get copies of the “information to obtain a search warrant” which the police filed in relation to Ford’s friend and car driver. They got access to most of it. Hookers, blow, vodka, racial taunts, and general scuzzy drunken behaviour appears to be a fair summary - plus drunk driving by the Mayor. [Rob Ford did drugs, partied with escort on St. Patrick’s Day, police document alleges](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/13/rob_ford_did_drugs_partied_with_escort_police_document_alleges.html) ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/140 "2013-11-14T15:57:19Z")
And now Ford says he is suing the people who were interviewed by the police for what they disclosed to the police. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410.md?page=8)