# Toronto's alleged crack smoking mayor. Why is he still in office?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 26, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410 "2013-05-26T15:45:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/161 "2013-11-16T17:24:48Z")

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Well, the City Council is taking action, stripping him of most of his executive powers:

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Vote passed with only 2 nays - Rob & Doug Ford.

Next up on Monday is a vote to drastically cut his office budget, staffers’ salaries, etc.

Essentially the plan appears to be to neuter him, doing everything short of actually removing him.

And the Premier of Ontario has announced that she is considering legislative amendments to allow the Province to remove a mayor for misconduct short of a criminal conviction, which is currently the only basis for removal, but doesn’t plan on using it if the Council continues to deal with the problem, which it appears to be doing.

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And by the way, you have no idea how scary it is to type “Rob Ford stripped” into Google an wait apprehensively to see what it brings up …

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/162 "2013-11-16T20:30:15Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Is _that_ what poutine is?

No, poutine is covered with brown gravy and cheese curds.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ford has tried it that and other ways, including with butter, sour cream, and bacon bits, or chocolate sauce and whipped cream.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/163 "2013-11-18T14:13:02Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> And the Premier of Ontario has announced that she is considering legislative amendments to allow the Province to remove a mayor for misconduct short of a criminal conviction, which is currently the only basis for removal, but doesn’t plan on using it if the Council continues to deal with the problem, which it appears to be doing.

Poor Kathleen Wynne must be looking for something, anything, to give people the impression she should keep her job. Do we really need a law for this?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/164 "2013-11-18T15:41:09Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> No, poutine is covered with brown gravy and cheese curds.

Isn’t that what emerges from Ford’s various orifice’s when he is feeling a bit under the weather?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/165 "2013-11-18T16:00:21Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Poor Kathleen Wynne must be looking for something, anything, to give people the impression she should keep her job. Do we really need a law for this?

All she needs to do is publicize[Harvard’s study of men throughout their lives](http://www.feelguide.com/2013/04/29/75-years-in-th-making-harvard-just-released-its-epic-study-on-what-men-require-to-live-a-happy-life/),

> [@](#):
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> With regards to sex lives, one of the most fascinating discoveries is that aging liberals have way more sex.

and then point out that Ford is conservative. Millions of women will see to it that their spouses vote for the Liberals.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/166 "2013-11-18T21:32:48Z")

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Toronto Mayor Rob Ford is just too awesome for mere words.

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**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/167 "2013-11-18T21:55:34Z")

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In a point and laugh at the train wreck kind of way sure but in a hold my head up in a room full of people and say I voted for him\* - no way in hell!

\*I actually live in Brampton so even if I wasn’t semi sane voting for Rob was never an option

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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/168 "2013-11-18T22:18:14Z")

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Hey, Moonlitherial, he sez he wants to be Prime Minister, so you may get your chance to vote against him yet. Anyway, he isn’t the first crackhead to run the idea up the flagpole. Ashley Macisaac made headlines a few years ago saying he was going to run for the Liberal leadership. At least Macisaac is bilingual! And an awesome fiddler!

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**Author:** ![bashere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bashere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bashere)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/169 "2013-11-18T22:20:31Z")

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He must have been a helluva a football player:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QB1dJeMtb08/maxresdefault.jpg "Mayor Rob Ford knocks over Councillor during November 18 motion of debate") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB1dJeMtb08)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/170 "2013-11-18T22:20:45Z")

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He wants to run for national office? What is he? Smoking cr-

Oh right.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/171 "2013-11-18T22:24:22Z")

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**Gangster Octopus** , we don’t really need more than one thread on this dude. I merged yours into the existing multi-page commentary.

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**Author:** ![D18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@D18](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D18)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/172 "2013-11-18T22:25:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> He wants to run for national office? What is he? Smoking cr-
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> Oh right.

Well, in Canadian politics, the key question is: how’s his French? How long before you guys ask have to consider whether your Presidential candidates speak good Spanish?

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**Author:** ![bashere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bashere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bashere)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/173 "2013-11-18T22:26:55Z")

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If you’re merging threads, can you change the “alleged” in the title to “admitted”?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/174 "2013-11-19T10:12:16Z")

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> [@bashere](#):
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> He must have been a helluva a football player:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB1dJeMtb08&feature=youtu.be](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB1dJeMtb08&feature=youtu.be)

He should be banned from the premises. City councillors should have a safe working environment.

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**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/175 "2013-11-20T02:21:12Z")

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Oh if you didn’t watch the first Rob Ford show on Sun News, [you’re not going to see a second one cause it’s already been cancelled.](http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/toronto-mayor-rob-fords-reality-show-cancelled-after-one-episode-1200856619/)

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/176 "2013-11-20T14:47:45Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Poor Kathleen Wynne must be looking for something, anything, to give people the impression she should keep her job. Do we really need a law for this?

Well, Wynne does need to justify the job that she wasn’t elected for. And given what has gone on in Quebec, it may not be a bad idea for the provinces to have ways of getting rid of bad mayors.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/177 "2013-11-20T17:33:42Z")

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> [@installLSC](#):
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> Oh if you didn’t watch the first Rob Ford show on Sun News, [you’re not going to see a second one cause it’s already been cancelled.](http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/toronto-mayor-rob-fords-reality-show-cancelled-after-one-episode-1200856619/)

And for those of you who missed it:  
[Part 1](http://youtu.be/KL2Rn-DAuTY) [http://youtu.be/KL2Rn-DAuTY](http://youtu.be/KL2Rn-DAuTY)  
[Part 2](http://youtu.be/_9qc72vg7aw) [http://youtu.be/\_9qc72vg7aw](http://youtu.be/_9qc72vg7aw)  
[Part 3](http://youtu.be/EmnwTW2F0Wc) [http://youtu.be/EmnwTW2F0Wc](http://youtu.be/EmnwTW2F0Wc)  
[Part 4](http://youtu.be/ga4kx5T6_44) [http://youtu.be/ga4kx5T6\_44](http://youtu.be/ga4kx5T6_44)

Summary of the show: it’s all a socialist conspiracy jihad against Ford, he doesn’t like gays, Walmart shoppers support him, everyone across the country should be tested for drugs, and call him at anytime at 416-397-FORD.

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/178 "2013-11-23T01:30:07Z")

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The Rob Ford [movie](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUY6lDja-DE), starring Chris Farley.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/179 "2014-01-22T06:11:57Z")

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After re-assuring Torontonians a month ago that he had stopped drinking entirely, we have a new video of the latest drunken stupor, last night in a restaurant, ranting in a mock Jamican accent:

[Ford admits to drinking after new video surfaces](http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ford-admits-to-drinking-after-new-video-surfaces-1.1649516#ixzz2r6Z4DFrs)

:: sigh ::

Just in time for Jimmy Fallon’s new gig. 😛

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/torontos-alleged-crack-smoking-mayor-why-is-he-still-in-office/659410/180 "2014-01-22T14:33:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Bob Arthurs, a retired school teacher and current president of the Jamaican Canadian Association Alberta, said “bumbaclot” and “rassclot” have become common slang in Jamaica’s poorer communities.
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> They are essentially synonyms that equate to hurling a particularly vehement f-bomb, he added.
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> “If you met someone on the street you didn’t know and you said, ‘you’re a bumbaclot,’ that could be a very trying situation for you,” Arthurs said in a telephone interview from Calgary.
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> Both words have their origins in African languages imported from eras when Jamaica was a hotbed of slavery, said York University Jamaican Creole professor Clive Forrester.
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> “Bumbo,” meaning vagina in some languages, was combined with the word “klaat” or cloth, he said, adding the final result would literally translate to calling someone a sanitary napkin.
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> As it was adopted into Jamaican dialect, however, the word took on other connotations and even had serious ramifications for those who used it, he said.
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> “This is simply a straight up curse word,” Forrester wrote in an email. “Not suitable for use in polite company or in the presence of children, and performers have been fined in the past for using the word on stage.”
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> Junior Ford, owner of a business in Toronto’s Jamaican community, said direct English equivalents for the words are difficult to pin down.
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> Apart from being a run-of-the-mill swear word, he said “bumbaclot” and “rassclot” are sometimes used as low-level threats when people are spoiling for a fight.
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> “It is aggressive. Sometimes you’re saying 'F off”’ or ‘F you.’ It’s almost the same thing," he said.

Read more: [http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/rob-ford-said-what-experts-weigh-in-on-his-jamaican-patois-1.1650446#ixzz2r8bzQNBE](http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/rob-ford-said-what-experts-weigh-in-on-his-jamaican-patois-1.1650446#ixzz2r8bzQNBE)

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