# Tostitos Salsa con Queso: Truth in Advertising

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [January 26, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128 "2008-01-26T21:57:52Z")
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### Author: ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/1 "2008-01-26T21:57:52Z")

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_The following rant has been deemed too mild for the BBQ Pit by the Phase 42 Standards Enforcement Committee, so into MPSIMS it goes._

I loves me some Tostitos Salsa con Queso, but I find myself somewhat confused. Confused on two points, specifically:

1. “Salsa con Queso” = “sauce with cheese” (literal translation). I assume that Tostitos is using the word “salsa” in it’s Americanized form, meaning “chunky hot sauce”, since to Mexicans even the non-chunky “hot sauce” is still called “salsa”. So, going by the American usage, the name of the product implies “chunky hot sauce with cheese”. This seems something of a misnomer, because the actual product seems to actually be cheese sauce with spices and chunks of peppers added to it. A more appropriate name for the product would seem to be “Salsa de Queso con Chiles” (literally, cheese sauce with peppers). I’ll admit that this name doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as well as “Salsa con Queso”, but it’s far more accurate.

2. Every jar I’ve seen is labeled “Medium”. “Medium” is one of those words I’ve always had trouble with, because I’m something of a literalist. My first annoying encounter with the word came when I was placing my order at a fast food restaurant, and I asked for a small soda. The teenaged drone behind the counter replied, “We don’t have small. We just have medium and large.” I had to restrain myself from throttling the young man and informing him that the word “medium” means, roughly, “in the middle”, and thus implies that there are a _minimum_ of three options: small, medium, and large. If there are only two options, one of them cannot be “medium”. With only two options those options are, of necessity, “small” and “large”. Thus, when I asked for “small”, it is safe to assume that I’m asking for the smallest size available.

Which brings me back to “Medium” Salsa con Queso. This is an even more egregious abuse of nomenclature, because there seems to be only _one_ option. Since the product is a Mexican-style condiment, it’s safe to assume that “Medium” refers to the level of hotness. Leaving aside the fact that Tostitos Salsa con Queso Medium could be more accurately described as “extremely mild”, the simple fact that there exists only one level of “hotness” in the product puts the lie to the label “Medium”. In several years of consuming this product, I have seen no evidence that there are “Mild” and “Hot” varieties of ScQ. Even the official Tostitos Web site depicts only a jar of the “Medium” variety and makes no mention of other varieties.

What say ye? Have you any similar examples?

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### Author: ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2008, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/2 "2008-01-26T22:14:45Z")

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It’s referring to its spiciness on the continuum of spiciness. There are both more and less spicy foods, no biggy.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/3 "2008-01-26T22:21:14Z")

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As far as your second example goes, it seems to me that the sauce (which I love too, BTW) rates somewhere in the medium range of general “hotness,” as perceived by white-bread, pale, “Ketchup-is-spicy” American shoppers. Not as an example of a median hotness level for their queso. In truth, the stuff needs an ample infusion of Crystal sauce to be \*really \* palatable. But my level of “medium” would be off the scale for most gringos.

I think they use the “sauce with cheese” convention so that some dimwitted Mexican doesn’t think it’s something he would want to eat.

(Note on the above: The “dimwitted” comment was to show that no Mexican in their right mind, or possessing a fraction of their God-given mental ability would ever choose to eat any Tostitos product voluntarily.)

But the stuff makes a killer topping for a baked potato, and it’s just a microwave away.

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### Author: ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/4 "2008-01-26T22:33:17Z")

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Like you, I’d only seen medium around for ages. And then, one day, I saw the unthinkable. An actual jar of “Hot”. But it wasn’t just labeled Tostitos _Salsa con Queso_, no…it was labeled Tostitos _Salsa con Queso with Real Jalapeños_.  
There is also, I’ve heard, a Tostitos _Chili con Queso_ that has the “Hot” tag.

I found the stuff in a slightly more larger store chain (Safeway) than the one I typical shop at (Bashas).

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### Author: ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/5 "2008-01-26T22:48:32Z")

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If you’re only going to offer one level of hot sauce, “medium” sells the most jars. “Hot” scares some people away, and “mild” (which is what these Wonder Bread American salsas really are) is a turn off to others. “Medium” is a safe and ambiguous answer which tells heat seekers (falsely) that the product contains _some_ spice, but tells the spice wimps that it’s not too much…it’s not _hot_, just medium.

Thusly, the “medium” label is designed to turn off the least amount of shoppers. No matter what the actual level of heat is, calling it “medium” will always turn off fewer shoppers than either 'hot" or “mild” will.

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### Author: ![Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sticks_and_scones/32/16951_2.png) [@Sticks\_and\_Scones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sticks_and_Scones)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/6 "2008-01-26T23:12:18Z")

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Wouldn’t you rather just whip up some [Rotel Cheese Dip](http://www.texmex.net/Rotel/cheesdip.htm)?

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### Author: ![MissGypsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@MissGypsy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissGypsy)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2008, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/7 "2008-01-26T23:58:27Z")

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That’s odd, I can find Mild and Hot frequently. I probably have a few jars of both in my cabinet – Mild for the husband, Medium for me, and Hot for the little kids. (Weird family, I know.)

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### Author: ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/8 "2008-01-27T00:01:10Z")

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I like that nacho cheese sauce in a can. I call it “can queso.”

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### Author: ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2008, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/9 "2008-01-27T08:45:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Idle Thoughts]  
_Salsa con Queso with Real Jalapeños_.  
There is also, I’ve heard, a Tostitos _Chili con Queso_ that has the “Hot” tag.

I found the stuff in a slightly more larger store chain (Safeway) than the one I typical shop at (Bashas).  
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Oh my! Now _that’s_ something I’d definitely buy! I also do my shopping at Safeway, but all I’ve seen there is the Medium.

As to what I’d actually consider “medium” … I also loves me some Tapatio and Chalula (sp?). I like it hot.

> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Thusly, the “medium” label is designed to turn off the least amount of shoppers. No matter what the actual level of heat is, calling it “medium” will always turn off fewer shoppers than either 'hot" or “mild” will.

Sir, you are making sense. Stop it. 😛

> [@MissGypsy](#):
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> That’s odd, I can find Mild and Hot frequently.

I’m amazed! You’d think the fact that my town’s population is about 30% Mexican would encourage the local distributor to stock the Hot variety.

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### Author: ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2008, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/10 "2008-01-27T11:56:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Phase42]  
As to what I’d actually consider “medium” … I also loves me some Tapatio and Chalula (sp?). I like it hot.  
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If you think Cholula is hot, you really should stay away from [this](http://www.hotsauceworld.com/painisgoodba.html), [this](http://www.hotsauceworld.com/asskiccajhot.html), and especially [this](http://www.davesgourmet.peachhost.com/ct_PRdain.htm).

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### Author: ![Wheeljack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@Wheeljack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheeljack)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/11 "2008-01-27T12:40:40Z")

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I like the medium salsa.

Wonder Bread ain’t bad, I guess. I’ve had worse.

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### Author: ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-truth-in-advertising/435128/12 "2008-01-27T21:30:59Z")

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[QUOTE=sturmhauke]  
If you think Cholula is hot, you really should stay away from [this](http://www.hotsauceworld.com/painisgoodba.html), [this](http://www.hotsauceworld.com/asskiccajhot.html), and especially [this](http://www.davesgourmet.peachhost.com/ct_PRdain.htm).  
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Heh. I’ve tasted one variety of the Dave’s Total Insanity sauce. That was a bit _too_ hot. A friend had a bottle. I stuck a toothpick in it, shook off the excess, and touched it to my tongue.

I couldn’t breathe, and I thought my heart had stopped :eek:

However, that’s the main reason I call Tapatio and Cholula “medium”.
