# Total War: WARHAMMER – Announcement **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 22, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292 "2015-04-22T15:29:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/1 "2015-04-22T15:29:29Z")
It’s just a [pre-rendered trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4d3ignBNQ) for now but still…the Total War franchise plus Warhammer? Sounds awesome to me! Of course the hype-train will be strong with this one and after what they did to Rome II I am still very wary of them. They are putting two of my favorite things together…I really hope they do not screw it up (or dumb it down). ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/2 "2015-04-22T15:36:28Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > They are putting two of my favorite things together…I really hope they do not screw it up (or dumb it down). +1 ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/3 "2015-04-22T17:00:45Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > It’s just a [pre-rendered trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4d3ignBNQ) for now but still…the Total War franchise plus Warhammer? Sounds awesome to me! > > Of course the hype-train will be strong with this one and after what they did to Rome II I am still very wary of them. They are putting two of my favorite things together…I really hope they do not screw it up (or dumb it down). Holy Hell. I have a couple of sons who are already Total War maniacs, as well as very fond of the Warhammer mythos. I suspect this cinematic will have them psyched hard. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/4 "2015-04-22T18:33:37Z")
I didn’t even know this was coming down the pipe. I have a friend who’s going to plotz. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/5 "2015-04-22T22:06:59Z")
I could go for this. But it won’t be a day 1 purchase; I’ll let them fix the bugs first. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/6 "2015-04-25T01:20:37Z")
Something was just bothering me, but here’s a weird question: Isn’t it _Warhammer: Total War_? I mean, in that order? Because Creative Assembly seems to write the titles with Total War in front, but then they always seem to pronounce it as TW: {setting}. Is that just me being confused? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/7 "2015-04-25T01:31:58Z")
I’d be more interested if it were 40k, but this looks pretty cool, too. (I suppose, though, that 40k’s a bit oversaturated and the wanted to give Fantasy an outing, which isn’t a bad idea.) ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/8 "2015-04-25T01:51:30Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Something was just bothering me, but here’s a weird question: > > Isn’t it _Warhammer: Total War_? I mean, in that order? Because Creative Assembly seems to write the titles with Total War in front, but then they always seem to pronounce it as TW: {setting}. > > Is that just me being confused? That used to be how it was: Medieval: Total War, Rome: Total war, etc. But they changed it with Total War: Shogun 2, or possibly Empire, don’t recall. It makes more sense to have the franchise name first, and have the games next to each other on things like Steam lists, vs finding Rome under R and Shogun under, S, etc. I love Total War. It’s probably my favorite strategy series, but I don’t know anything about Warhammer. I’ll wait for reviews, but It’s likely I’ll pick it up. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/9 "2015-04-25T02:19:15Z")
Warhammer is basically Warcraft. There are differences, but not really. Should’ve called it Total Warhammer. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/10 "2015-04-25T02:49:40Z")
Dazzling pre-rendered trailer with no gameplay footage? I feel the memories of many burns. Total Warhammer 40K might be good, though. The cartoonishly short ranged guns of 40k would fit in well with the unrealistically short ranged rifles and howitzers of Shogun 2. Plus the goofiness of 40k would be nice to play. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/11 "2015-04-25T03:34:53Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > Warhammer is basically Warcraft. There are differences, but not really. [Don’t say another goddam word](http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10) ---
**Author:** ![Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrogance_ex_machina/32/192_2.png) [@Arrogance\_Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogance_Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/12 "2015-04-25T17:26:05Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > [Don’t say another goddam word](http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/04/10) I love that strip. PA is more often a miss than a hit IMO but sometimes they just deliver. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/13 "2015-04-25T20:26:44Z")
> [@Palooka](#): > > Warhammer is basically Warcraft. There are differences, but not really. You might want to look up the relative chronology of the games- Warhammer as a tabletop game/gaming milieu predates Warcraft by more than a decade. The sentence should really read “Warcraft is basically Warhammer. There are differences, but not really.” ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/14 "2015-04-25T21:26:51Z")
Story wise, I think Warhammer fantasy is a lot darker and, until recently, a lot less convoluted. The games might be similar but the background certainly isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/15 "2015-04-25T21:37:50Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Story wise, I think Warhammer fantasy is a lot darker and, until recently, a lot less convoluted. > > The games might be similar but the background certainly isn’t. How does the story of Warhammer fantasy compare to Warhammer 40k? Is it like Game of Thrones? ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/16 "2015-04-26T00:16:27Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > How does the story of Warhammer fantasy compare to Warhammer 40k? Is it like Game of Thrones? Not much of a story. It’s virtually the same game, just with more melee units. (Heck, some of the units are almost identical between the two). For a very short rundown of the major similarities, Empire is basically Imperial Guard, Elves are Eldar, Dark Elves are Dark Eldar, Orcs are Orks, Chaos is Chaos, etc. Storyline-wise, it’s also identical. Everybody is at war, the EMpire is always being beaten up but somehow wins, and life sucks for everybody who isn’t a baby-eating sociopath. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/17 "2015-04-26T16:56:01Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > How does the story of Warhammer fantasy compare to Warhammer 40k? Is it like Game of Thrones? It’s on a much smaller scale, generally, and the stories rarely intertwine. It’s a grim world though generally not as bad as 40K. Recently though, they have basically ended the Warhammer fantasy book line with, what I consider, to be convoluted storylines that pretty much spit in the face of the prior 20 years+ worth of material. It’s a shame as I loved the Warhammer fantasy books. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/18 "2015-04-26T17:25:36Z")
I’ve been waiting for\* Fantasy: Total War\* for over a decade. Seriously - I love Total War, but if anything, the games have _too much_ realism, usually at the expense of fun gameplay. This sounds almost exactly what I was hoping for. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/19 "2015-04-26T17:39:32Z")
I’m excited that Creative Assembly is getting into fantasy gaming using their Total War stuff, but I wish they’d gone with an original IP. Warhammer is okay and all, but tying a new endeavor to an existing fan base is always tricky at best. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292/20 "2015-04-26T17:42:50Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I’m excited that Creative Assembly is getting into fantasy gaming using their Total War stuff, but I wish they’d gone with an original IP. Warhammer is okay and all, but tying a new endeavor to an existing fan base is always tricky at best. True, but CA seems to be good at that, if we look at what they did with Alien: Isolation. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/total-war-warhammer-announcement/718292.md?page=2)