# Touching Patriotism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 14, 2006, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638 "2006-04-14T07:36:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/21 "2006-04-14T20:03:27Z")

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I have a collection of marches on CD that includes a John Phillip Sousa medley. The rest of the piece is ok, but when “Columbia, Gem of the Ocean” kicks in, I get chills and want to salute something.

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**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/22 "2006-04-14T20:47:56Z")

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“America the Beautiful” really gets to me. I also really love “Lift Every Voice and Sing,” and I wish it was heard more often:

_Lift every voice and sing  
til earth and heaven ring  
Ring with the harmonies of liberty  
Let our rejoicing rise  
high as the listening skies  
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea_

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**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/23 "2006-04-14T20:48:54Z")

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“Concord” piano sonota by Charles Ives

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/24 "2006-04-14T20:56:10Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
I have a collection of marches on CD that includes a John Phillip Sousa medley. The rest of the piece is ok, but when “Columbia, Gem of the Ocean” kicks in, I get chills and want to salute something.  
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Ooh, yeah…I’m another march-inspired patriot. A good rolling march can get me on my feet in a flash!

O Columbia, the gem of the ocean!  
The home of the brave and the free,  
the shrine of each patriot’s devotion!  
A world offers homage to thee!

(Oh, and Columbia is by David T. Shaw, not Sousa…)

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/25 "2006-04-14T21:11:52Z")

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Geez how could I have forgotten? To me the most “patriotism-inspiring” song has got to be “ **Stars and Stripes Forever** ”. Darned good song !!!  
I’m surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Any other fans of this song?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/26 "2006-04-14T21:17:55Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Ooh, yeah…I’m another march-inspired patriot. A good rolling march can get me on my feet in a flash!

O Columbia, the gem of the ocean!  
The home of the brave and the free,  
the shrine of each patriot’s devotion!  
A world offers homage to thee!

(Oh, and Columbia is by David T. Shaw, not Sousa…)  
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I sit corrected. Probably because the medley begins with “Stars and Stripes Forever” and segues into “Under The Double Eagle.” 😃

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/27 "2006-04-14T21:30:39Z")

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Some of the above songs bring shivers down my spine, but so does Hail Columbia.

> [@](#):
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> Hail Columbia, happy land!  
> Hail, ye heroes, heav’n-born band,  
> Who fought and bled in freedom’s cause,  
> Who fought and bled in freedom’s cause,  
> And when the storm of war was gone  
> Enjoy’d the peace your valor won.  
> Let independence be our boast,  
> Ever mindful what it cost;  
> Ever grateful for the prize,  
> Let its altar reach the skies

But so do the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine hymns

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/28 "2006-04-14T21:54:55Z")

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_The Star-Spangled Banner_, _America the Beautiful_ (love the last verse), _The Stars and Stripes Forever_, _Battle Hymn of the Republic_ (the choral arrangement (by Wilhousky, I think). I greatly prefer the first two sung straight, but to each his own.

[QUOTE=Jake]  
There was a full orchestra version a couple years ago of “Johnny Come Marching Home” I can’t think of who wrote it or what orchestra played it but it was BEAUTIFUL!  
Can anyone help me with this? I’d like to download it.  
Thanks  
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The only one that comes to mind is Morton Gould’s _American Salute_, a popular short orchestral work based on WJCMH. There’s an excerpt on this page (track 20): [http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1892386&title=American+Classics+-+Gould%3A+American+Ballads%2C+etc+%2F+Kuchar](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1892386&title=American+Classics+-+Gould%3a+American+Ballads%2c+etc+%2f+Kuchar)

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/29 "2006-04-15T00:33:17Z")

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I CANNOT BELIEVE I’m about to admit this…

but when I was 16 or 17 I used to get choked up around the fourth of July when I heard _ **United** _ by Judas Priest.

(slinks away)  
I’ll just go now…

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/30 "2006-04-15T00:35:30Z")

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[Here’s](http://www.deskpicture.com/DPs/Astronomy/NASA/moonflag.jpg) a [couple](http://www.alanbeangallery.com/magicmom-new.html) of good ones.

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**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/31 "2006-04-15T01:00:06Z")

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_Rhapsody in Blue_ always gives me goosebumps. Not a patriotic song, per se, but so very American.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/32 "2006-04-15T01:09:13Z")

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Sounds cheesy as all rip, but Elvis’s _American Trilogy_ I love.

In the 1960s Tennessee Ernie Ford released two records: Civil War Songs of the South and Civil War Songs of the North. I **LOVE** these albums and have tried getting them on CD but without success. (I ordered them once on Amazon and got a “could not fulfil order” message.) I love Ken Burns’ _CIVIL WAR_ soundtrack as well, the musical _1776_ and the clip of Judy Garland (I know, I know… but I really don’t like her usually) being poured onto stage the week JFK was killed and singing, perfectly, _Battle Hymn of the Republic_, leaving not a dry eye in the house.

Polish ancestried/Austrian born/Israeli reared/Jewish singer Theodore Bikel singing _Follow the Drinkin’ Gourd_ a [slave song](http://www.madison.k12.wi.us/planetarium/ftdg1.htm), for some reason brings patriotic chills. I suppose it’s the history of the song, reminding me that even in America’s worst hours there were people willing to risk their lives to better their situation or to help others (both the slaves and the white southerners working on the Und.RR) plays a part, plus knowing Bikel’s biography (his family fled the Nazis through a form of underground railroad shortly after the takeover) helps put it in universal perspective. Or I just like the sound- Richie Havens’ version on the Burns soundtrack is also great.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/33 "2006-04-15T12:35:15Z")

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Not song, but from an advertising flyer sent to my company in early 2002. I liked it so much I kept it:

My company has always been unabashedly and unapologetically patriotic.We’ve always flown the biggest American flag we could find. Always made a huge deal out of our national holidays–the 4th of July especially. I’m proud to say that we’ve never taken this great country and all the opportunities it affords us for granted. We’ve always recognized how truly fortunate we are to call outseles Americans.

Our very first ctalog featured just one 4th of July post card. I can remember writing the copy to sell it. I admonished our small group of customers (less than 5000 at the time) not to let this, our most patriiotic of holidays, slip by without sending out a post card. What an easy listing opportunity, I wrote. What a great way to show your patriotism. What a wonderful contact to make with your entire market area.

Now, almost a decade and 140,000 REALTOR customers later, 4thof July post cards have become our most popular of the year.

In years past it’s probably sounded cheese when I droned on and on about what a great country we live in. But not this year. This year is different.

So here’s my big sales pitch for 2002…  
“An order form is enclosed.”

Stay safe, be well, and Happy 4th of July!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/34 "2006-04-15T14:47:12Z")

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[QUOTE=RikWriter]  
I especially like the part about “I have seen a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel.”  
[/QUOTE]  
For me it’s “As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free”.

If we were taking a vote, I’d be happy with Ray Charles’ “America the Beautiful” - that’s the recording that started the drive to make it the national anthem.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/35 "2006-04-15T14:51:28Z")

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[QUOTE=yanceylebeef]  
God Bless the USA makes me want to punch Lee Greenwood right in the throat.  
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From the little I’ve heard, “God Bless the USA” makes _Lee Greenwood_ want to punch his own throat out, he’s so sick of singing it.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/36 "2006-04-15T15:22:08Z")

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I’m really embarassed to admit it, but I tear up at Epcot at the American part of the international village thing - at the end they have this amazingly schmaltzy song with a montage, and it gets me _every time_. It’s humiliating - don’t want to show weakness in front of the Japanese! 😉

I love “America the Beautiful”, and also “My Country, Tis of Thee”, but even this agnostic Southerner gets a little soft for the “in the beauty of the lilies” verse of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”.

Oh, and that Air Force song and “Over There” are kinda stirring.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/37 "2006-04-15T15:25:22Z")

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[QUOTE=dinahmoe]  
_Rhapsody in Blue_ always gives me goosebumps. Not a patriotic song, per se, but so very American.  
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I was just coming in here to say the exact same thing. It just reminds me of cities and gleaming skylines and the roaring twenties and all that. It puts me in an “american” mood.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/38 "2006-04-15T23:20:08Z")

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**I Am A Patriot** by Steven Van Zandt. Actually, I’ve never heard Little Steven sing it. David Lindley does a fine job.

**Rally 'Round The Flag** , not the jolly, marching kind, but the reverent, weary version by Ry Cooder.

Hearing Ray Charles singing **America The Beautiful** , in a way the composer did not imagine, always brings tears to my eyes. Part of it is missing Ray, but it’s mostly his masterful performance.

I’ll join the parade walking on Lee Greenwood’s bloody form. It ain’t much, **but at least I know I’m free**?! This is supposed to be something to be proud of? Watta maroon.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/39 "2006-04-16T01:59:45Z")

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There are several versions of _Shanadoah_ that move me – and not just for that part of the country. One of them is a very gentle, echoing version by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. I wouldn’t have expected anything so hushed from them. It’s perfect.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/touching-patriotism/352638/40 "2006-04-16T02:02:07Z")

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I’m almost sloppily patriotic and I like some of Toby Keith’s songs (although not _The Angry American_, which I don’t dislike for the sentiments but because it’s just dumb). I like most of the ones mentioned here, especially some of the lesser heard ones such as _Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean_, and _This is My Country_, both of which I love.

When I was in the 2nd grade (circa 1968), our class opened the day with the Pledge of Allegiance and a song from a mimeographed pamplet our teacher (Mrs. Cunningham) had made. The pamplet had a bunch of patriotic songs – _Columbia…_, and _…My Country_ among them). Each day a different kid got to choose the song. When it was my turn, I always chose _This Land is Your Land_. So I’ll give a shout out to that one – still a favorite of favorites.

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