# Tough Trivial Feud

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 4, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206 "2008-02-04T13:41:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/61 "2008-02-05T17:07:22Z")

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[QUOTE=5 time champ]  
I believe that **Spoons** is number 50. So let me crunch some numbers. Good game I hope everyone found it interesting and a little more challenging than earlier games.  
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It was fun, thanks for hosting.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/62 "2008-02-05T23:24:48Z")

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Sorry for the delay, third of four games now that the only half-way decent product that Microsoft puts out [Excel :mad: :mad:] has crashed on me. So I had to use the worst product Apple has ever put out [Numbers] :mad: to do the scoring for this round.

1. Other than _jihad_, name a English word from the Arabic. _Jihad_ may not have quite made it to English yet, but you know what I mean.

admiral 2  
alchemy 1  
alcohol 2  
algebra 16  
algorithm 1  
Allah 1  
assassin 5  
burqa 1  
Derka Derka 1  
Fakir 1  
Fatwa 3  
Genie 3  
halal 1  
harem 1  
Hummus 1  
Koran 1  
lollypop 1  
Martyr 1  
Mummy 1  
Orange 1  
Ramadan 1  
Sheik 2  
zero 2  
2. Other than Waterloo, name a set-piece battle of the Napoleonic Wars. [Note this also rules out anything related to Moscow]  
Marengo 1  
2. ? 4  
Aubergine 1  
Austerlitz 12  
Badajos. 1  
Battle of Aldenhoven 1  
Battle of Aspern-Essling 1  
Battle of the Nations 1  
Battle of the Nile 1  
Battle of the Pyramids 2  
Borodino 5  
Cairo 1  
Cyprus 1  
Jena 1  
Jesus, I have no idea. 1  
Montmarte 1  
New Orleans 1  
Paris? 1  
Salamanca 1  
Siege of Cadiz 1  
Talavera 2  
The Battle of Auerstaedt 1  
The Battle of Battles McBattle 1  
Trafalgar 7

1. Other than helium, name a noble gas.  
Argon 14  
Hydrogen 3  
Krypton 1  
neon 27  
Radon 2  
Xenon 3

2. Other than John Kennedy, name an American president that served for a very short time  
Benjamin Harrison 1  
Ford 6  
Harding 1  
Harrison 3  
James Garfield 8  
Lincoln(?) 1  
McKinley 3  
Warren Harding 3  
Wm Henry Harrison 22  
Zachary Taylor 2

3. Name a disease that humans used to die a lot from, but no longer do.

1 Influenza  
2 cholera  
1 Consumption  
1 Leprosy  
1 Measles  
10 Plague  
3 Polio  
27 Smallpox  
4 tuberculosis  
6. Type out for us a common phrase in Latin [at least 3 words]

ad astra per aspera 2  
Arma virumque cano 1  
Carthago delenda est 1  
cave canem 1  
Cogito ergo sum 4  
Consensus ad idem (meeting of the minds) 1  
E Pluribus Unum 13  
ex post facto 1  
In Vino Veritas 2  
Persona non grata 1  
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc 2  
quid pro quo 5  
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes 1  
Quod Erat Demonstratum 3  
Res Ipsa Loquitor 1  
Semper ubi sub ubi 1  
sic transit gloria mundi 1  
Veni, vedi, vici. 9

1. Name a nonfictional high school  
Exeter 1  
Beverly Hills High 8  
Bronx High School of Science 1  
Central High School of Little Rock, Arkansas 1  
Columbine 16  
Dalton 1  
DeMatha H.S. 1  
Great Falls High 1  
Hollywood High 3  
JFK High School 2  
Kwajalein Jr./Sr. High 1  
Lincoln High School 1  
Little Rock Central High School 1  
Lord Tweedsmuir High School 1  
Madison 1  
Mater Dei 1  
Mount Saint Mary’s 1  
Nashoba Regional High School 1  
New York City High School of the Performing Arts 1  
Petaluma High 1  
Power Memorial 1  
Sidwell Friends School 1  
Stephen Austin High School 1  
Stuyvesant, in New York 2

2. Name one of those weird Bob Dylan songs whose title is not prominently mentioned in the song

3. Star 1  
All Along the Watchtower 1  
Ballad of a Thin Man 1  
Billy 7 1  
Blowin’ in the Wind 2  
Bob Dylan’s blues 1  
Highway 61 Revisited 1  
Hurricane? 1  
It’s Alright, Ma 1  
Just Like Tom Thumb Blues 1  
Man Gave Names to All the Animals 1  
Man on the Street 1  
Motorpsycho Nightmare 1  
North Country Blues 1  
pass 4  
Positively Fourth Street 7  
Rainy Day Woman #12 and 35 11  
Subterranean Homesick Blues 12  
You have an odd idea of when I went to high school. 1

4. Name an ancient coin

5. ?? 2  
as 1  
Aureus 1  
Denarius 7  
Dinar 1  
Doubloon 7  
Drachma 9  
ducat 1  
Florin 3  
lepta 1  
obol 1  
pieces of eight 1  
Sesterce 2  
sextans 1  
Shekel 9  
Talent 3

6. Name an ancient historian  
Socrates 1  
Tacitus 1

7. Cassius Dio 1  
Bede 1  
Cicero 1  
Herodotus 21  
Homer 1  
Josephus 5  
no idea 1  
Pliny 9  
Plutarch 4  
Tacitus 2  
The guy who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls 1  
Thucydides 1

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/63 "2008-02-05T23:27:24Z")

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And congratulations to the winner of Tough Trivial Feud:

**Interrobang!?** With 292 points

1 Interrobang!? 292  
2 Bayard 286  
3 Max Torque 286  
4 Nurobath 282  
5 brownie55 278  
6 Little Nemo 278  
7 fretfulporpenttine 262  
8 3acresandatruck 254  
9 bibliophage 248  
10 5 time champ 244  
11 spoons 244  
12 Cluricaun 242  
13 kyla 234  
14 Sternvogel 232  
15 Mullinator 232  
16 The Cocky Watchman 228  
17 Enginerd 220  
18 Wargamer 220  
19 DfrntBreign 216  
20 TheMerchandise 210  
21 OtakuLoki 206  
22 RealityChuck 202  
23 ShibbOleth 196  
24 KayElCee 194  
25 Labdad 194  
26 elucidator 192  
27 mmouse9799 192  
28 Darth Sensitive 186  
29 Chanteuse 184  
30 DaphneBlack 172  
31 MsWhatsit 172  
32 garygnu 170  
33 Hugh Jass 162  
34 Subway Prophet 162  
35 El\_Kabong 162  
36 SmartAleq 160  
37 tesseract 154  
38 pulykamell 150  
39 brewha 148  
40 cmkeller 140  
41 Justin Credible 138  
42 Das Glasperlenspiel 132  
43 control-z 124  
44 Hostile Dialect 122  
45 zamboniracer 112  
46 jali 98  
47 Gangster Octopus 96  
48 Purgatory Creek 88  
49 vison 86  
50 Zebra 70

Alpha  
3acresandatruck 254  
5 time champ 244  
Bayard 286  
bibliophage 248  
brewha 148  
brownie55 278  
Chanteuse 184  
Cluricaun 242  
cmkeller 140  
control-z 124  
DaphneBlack 172  
Darth Sensitive 186  
Das Glasperlenspiel 132  
DfrntBreign 216  
El\_Kabong 162  
elucidator 192  
Enginerd 220  
fretfulporpenttine 262  
Gangster Octopus 96  
garygnu 170  
Hostile Dialect 122  
Hugh Jass 162  
Interrobang!? 292  
jali 98  
Justin Credible 138  
KayElCee 194  
kyla 234  
Labdad 194  
Little Nemo 278  
Max Torque 286  
mmouse9799 192  
MsWhatsit 172  
Mullinator 232  
Nurobath 282  
OtakuLoki 206  
pulykamell 150  
Purgatory Creek 88  
RealityChuck 202  
ShibbOleth 196  
SmartAleq 160  
spoons 244  
Sternvogel 232  
Subway Prophet 162  
tesseract 154  
The Cocky Watchman 228  
TheMerchandise 210  
vison 86  
Wargamer 220  
zamboniracer 112  
Zebra 70

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/64 "2008-02-05T23:47:57Z")

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Wow! I’m amazed, given that googling for a Napoleonic battle turned up a one-point answer and my lousy guess at an ancient coin was, indeed, lousy.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/65 "2008-02-06T00:05:59Z")

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1. Alcohol
2. No idea
3. Neon
4. William Henry Harrison
5. Bubonic plague
6. Vini vidi vici
7. Hollywood High
8. Positively Fourth Street
9. Shekel
10. Euripides

Did I make it in the first 50?

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/66 "2008-02-06T00:43:11Z")

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Sorry **Gala** you are 51.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/67 "2008-02-06T00:50:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Interrobang!?]  
Wow! I’m amazed, given that googling for a Napoleonic battle turned up a one-point answer and my lousy guess at an ancient coin was, indeed, lousy.  
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Yeah, it is a little odd to win with two zeros- but you got the two zeros in the lowest overall scoring categories. Good job.

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**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/68 "2008-02-06T01:20:27Z")

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My first forray into a top 5. Way to go **Interrobang!?.**

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**Author:** ![3acresandatruck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e79b87/32.png) [@3acresandatruck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3acresandatruck)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/69 "2008-02-06T01:25:10Z")

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[QUOTE=5 time champ]

1. Name a nonfictional high school…

Central High School of Little Rock, Arkansas 1  
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Little Rock Central High School 1  
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I’d like to contend that these are the same high school. What do the judges say? (Not that it would change the standings…) Thanks for the game, **5 time champ**!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/70 "2008-02-06T01:37:43Z")

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[QUOTE=5 time champ]  
I hope everyone found it interesting and a little more challenging than earlier games.  
[/QUOTE]  
It certainly was challenging! I got hung up a bit on the Latin phrase, but it all seemed OK in the end–I placed better than I thought I would. Thanks for the game!

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/71 "2008-02-06T03:21:08Z")

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DEAD LAST!

Egads, I think I’ll do the next round.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/72 "2008-02-06T03:49:20Z")

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Woo-hoo! I scored a silver! I started smacking myself for answering QED for the Latin phrase almost as soon as I posted it. If not for that…

Congrats, **Interrobang!?**

Many thanks for the game, **5 time champ**!

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/73 "2008-02-06T04:39:14Z")

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[QUOTE=3acresandatruck]  
I’d like to contend that these are the same high school. What do the judges say? (Not that it would change the standings…) Thanks for the game, **5 time champ**!  
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:smack: Sorry, yes add 2 points to yours and **sternvogel’s** score as well.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/74 "2008-02-06T05:18:52Z")

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Sixth place. Not bad for a guy who had his Harrisons mixed up.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/75 "2008-02-06T23:14:36Z")

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[QUOTE=5 time champ]  
:smack: Sorry, yes add 2 points to yours and **sternvogel’s** score as well.  
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Actually four points each, as **3acresandatruck** and I each go from scoring 0 points to (2 x 2) on that question. I thus not only break the tie with **Mullinator** , but move ahead of **kyla** to boot. To be fair, tuberculosis and consumption are the same disease, so the people who put down those answers should also have their scores adjusted accordingly.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/76 "2008-02-06T23:34:32Z")

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Good points and so noted, and good thing we aren’t playing for money!

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/77 "2008-02-07T20:46:31Z")

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[QUOTE=5 time champ]  
Tough Trivial Feud

1. Other than _jihad_, name a English word from the Arabic. _Jihad_ may not have quite made it to English yet, but you know what I mean.
2. Other than Waterloo, name a \*\*set-piece battle \*\*of the Napoleonic Wars. [Note this also rules out anything related to Moscow]
3. Other than helium, name a noble gas.
4. Other than John Kennedy, name an American president that served for a very short time
5. Name a disease that humans used to die a lot from, but no longer do.
6. Type out for us a phrase from the Latin [at least 3 words]
7. Name a nonfictional high school
8. Name one of those weird Bob Dylan songs whose title is not prominently mentioned in the song
9. Name an ancient coin
10. Name an ancient historian  
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don’t know if there’s still time, but here goes

1. khat
2. Napolean vs godzilla, rumble in the bronx
3. xenon
4. Benjamin Harrison
5. smallpox
6. e plurbis unum
7. Bishop’s
8. the wickerman
9. Rupee
10. Indiana Jones

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**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/78 "2008-02-07T20:49:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
DEAD LAST!

Egads, I think I’ll do the next round.  
[/QUOTE]

you beat my score. 44, whoo

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/79 "2008-02-07T21:42:58Z")

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Wow - can’t believe I’m the only one who said Krypton, I thought that would come to more peoples’ minds, being the name of Superman’s world of origin.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tough-trivial-feud/436206/80 "2008-02-28T01:20:52Z")

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1. Sheik
2. Trafalgar
3. Neon
4. Harrison
5. Polio
6. quo erat demonstradum
7. Central High
8. Rainy Day Women #12
9. Nickel
10. Livy

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