# Tourist vs wild beef .... the beef usually wins **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 1, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529 "2022-06-01T22:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/21 "2022-06-02T06:47:24Z")
Thanks. I found a couple of articles that prematurely reported early that she had died, but they recanted and said she did not. It appears the lady from Grove City OH has died. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/22 "2022-06-02T07:15:57Z")
I guess this comes across as maudlin, but how would the coroner or medical examiner list this death? Misadventure, accidental, or suicide? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/23 "2022-06-02T07:34:37Z")
DBS: death by stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/24 "2022-06-02T07:36:56Z")
I don’t know for certain, but I’d lean towards “misadventure.” That’s how such things are reported locally. I’ve never been to Yellowstone, but I’m in Alberta, and have visited Canada’s mountain parks many times. Often, the guard at the park gate will have pamphlets warning of the dangers that getting too close to a wild animal may bring. And there are large wild animals in our parks; I’ve seen many deer, elks, bighorn sheep, and even grizzly and black bears; in addition to a variety of birds and small animals like chipmunks. Visitors are warned that the animals are unpredictable, and while they may be more afraid of you than you are of them, you do not approach them. You can take a photo from a safe distance, of course, but keep your distance. But every year, local news reports that some tourist (usually more than one a season) has been injured or killed by a wild animal. Usually, it’s because they want to get a good photo with the animal and them in it, but the animal has other ideas. Such injuries and deaths are reported in local media as “misadventure,” which explains my leaning towards that cause of death. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/25 "2022-06-02T08:52:48Z")
She is **not** dead. [cite](https://k2radio.com/ohio-woman-has-not-died-as-a-result-of-being-gored-by-a-bison-at-yellowstone-national-park/) Got to cut her a little slack because she _was_ on a boardwalk. About 4 years ago I did the same exact thing, at Old Faithful where people are strongly urged to stay on the boardwalk, and got away with it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/26 "2022-06-02T10:12:43Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > DBS: death by stupidity. DAM: Darwin Award Material? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/27 "2022-06-02T11:40:57Z")
That works too. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/28 "2022-06-02T11:51:32Z")
Looks like my raised eyebrow when I saw “Daily Mail” on that cite was warranted. Can we just outlaw using the Daily Mail as a cite? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/29 "2022-06-02T12:00:57Z")
It’s more like once the original premature announcement was out, then it becomes a chore to try and avoid the cite-cycle whereby the mistake is immortalized by more recent requoting. The _Mail_ just seems to have a rep for that sort of requoting. One thing complicating it in this case is that AFAICT after the reports of the first few hours there is not much updating on the condition of the casualty, and she may not be out of the woods yet (figuratively). ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/30 "2022-06-02T12:19:12Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > and she may not be out of the woods yet (figuratively). No, she very well may be dead as a I type this. But at that time, it seems she was alive, and if you want your citation to be taken seriously, find someone else other than the Daily Mail. It is pretty much anti-facts or at least anti-fact-checking. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/31 "2022-06-02T15:26:21Z")
Sometimes I think they should make you take an IQ test - or even just a _common sense_ test - before they let you into National Parks. I remember a trip through Yellowstone 20-ish years ago, traffic came to a dead stop on the road we were on. Apparently there was a mama bear and her cub off the side of the road about 2-300 yards ahead. People were getting out of their cars, _some with small children in tow_, to go up and get pictures. 🤦🏻‍♂️ It wouldn’t surprise me if something like that happens every damn day somewhere in the park. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/32 "2022-06-02T15:34:09Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > No, she very well may be dead as a I type this. But at that time, it seems she was alive, and if you want your citation to be taken seriously, find someone else other than the Daily Mail. Schrodinger’s bison taunter? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/33 "2022-06-02T15:41:03Z")
Has the tourist ever won? ---
**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/34 "2022-06-02T15:52:14Z")
A friend and his family went to Yellowstone about 10 years ago in their brand new Toyota SUV. They ended up stopped on a road by a herd of bison. Someone got tired of waiting and decided to lay on his horn to get the bison to move. One bad ass bison decided he had enough, he charged the guy’s compact car and pushed it around a bit. He then decided to ram the left front fender of my friend’s Toyota. Both vehicles had to be towed from the scene for repairs. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/35 "2022-06-02T16:28:56Z")
One time on the upper westside road we got stuck in a buffalo jam. Fortunately for us, the animal was walking south in the southbound lane while we were headed north – the driver in the vehicle following it at 3mph or so looked weary of the pace. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/36 "2022-06-02T16:35:11Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Has the tourist ever won? I think the best the tourist can hope for is a tie – they both go home that evening. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/37 "2022-06-02T17:21:15Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > One time on the upper westside road we got stuck in a buffalo jam. - Were you on roller skates? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/38 "2022-06-02T17:29:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > buffalo jam Mmmmmmm…buffalo jam. Probably made by the people who make this stuff: [![](https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/553e24da-a259-4d29-84da-15b2d246366e.91c0b81439080fd750c60ab85a0ba452.jpeg) ](https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/553e24da-a259-4d29-84da-15b2d246366e.91c0b81439080fd750c60ab85a0ba452.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/39 "2022-06-02T17:36:17Z")
I suspect that buffalo jam would be more like a gelatinous spread made with the favor of vinegar and tabasco. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/40 "2022-06-02T17:43:57Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > in what’s becoming increasingly common a Yellowstone park visitor decided to get a closer than safe look at the bison … needless to say it ended in the usual manner I think that this has been common for quite a long time. 20 years ago, my wife and I visited Yellowstone, and had stopped for a break at the Roosevelt Lodge. There was a notebook at the lodge, maintained by park staff, chronicling the interactions between humans and park wildlife – mostly bison, but also some with moose and bears. In nearly all of the cases, it seemed to be a matter of people disregarding the well-posted warnings about not getting close to large and potentially dangerous wild animals. There were lots and lots of stories of tourists who thought that the bison were both cuddly and docile, and got way too close, including one that happened a week or so prior to our visit, and was very similar to the incident in your link – a tourist tried to walk directly past a male bison which was standing on a path, and the bison flipped him into the air with one of its horns, goring his hip in the process. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529.md?page=3)