# Tourist vs wild beef .... the beef usually wins **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 1, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529 "2022-06-01T22:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/41 "2022-06-02T18:20:51Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > It’s more like once the original premature announcement was out, then it becomes a chore to try and avoid the cite-cycle whereby the mistake is immortalized by more recent requoting. The _Mail_ just seems to have a rep for that sort of requoting. One thing complicating it in this case is that AFAICT after the reports of the first few hours there is not much updating on the condition of the casualty, and she may not be out of the woods yet (figuratively). I know you know this site’s cite but I can’t resist: > **[Citogenesis](https://xkcd.com/978/)** > > I just read a pop-science book by a respected author. One chapter, and much of the thesis, was based around wildly inaccurate data which traced back to ... Wikipedia. To encourage people to be on their toes, I'm not going to say what book or author. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/42 "2022-06-02T18:48:52Z")
Which, in the classic internet hall-of-mirrors effect, [is cited thereupon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reporting#History_of_citogenesis) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/43 "2022-06-02T19:37:20Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > It’s more like once the original premature announcement was out, then it becomes a chore to try and avoid the cite-cycle whereby the mistake is immortalized by more recent requoting. FWIW, I originally saw it as a headline in my Google News feed. When later asked for a cite, I googled for “woman dead buffalo” and disregarded the articles about a car crash in Buffalo a few days ago. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/44 "2022-06-02T19:42:26Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I remember a trip through Yellowstone 20-ish years ago, traffic came to a dead stop on the road we were on. Apparently there was a mama bear and her cub off the side of the road about 2-300 yards ahead. People were getting out of their cars, _some with small children in tow_ , to go up and get pictures. I saw something very similar in Cades Cove less than 5 years ago. Young bear up a tree on the side of the road. People less than 100 feet away taking pictures. I wondered at the time if there would be a mauling. (Just to be safe I didn’t tell any bald heads to go up.) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/45 "2022-06-02T19:45:47Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > I thought it said " **_Biden_ gores woman, tosses her 10 feet in air"**. Now _that_ would have been a good story. “I could stand in the middle of Lamar Valley and gore somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK?” ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/46 "2022-06-02T19:50:35Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > (Just to be safe I didn’t tell any bald heads to go up.) Where’s our Like" button? ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/47 "2022-06-02T20:45:33Z")
Reading this thread I’m reminded of Roger Miller’s sage advice, warning people that they can’t roller skate in a buffalo herd. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/48 "2022-06-02T20:53:47Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > > [@TriPolar](#): > > > > Has the tourist ever won? > > I think the best the tourist can hope for is a tie – they both go home that evening. Tourists do win. That’s the problem, or at least part of it. Everyone who comes home with a selfie with an animal will likely embolden another to try it too. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/49 "2022-06-02T20:54:39Z")
Search = selfie with bison. Darwin Award runners up. [https://www.google.com/search?q=selfie+with+bison&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif1\_KOoI74AhUXwykDHa6JD\_AQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=selfie+with+bison&gs\_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIFCAAQgAQ6BwgjEOoCECc6CAgAEIAEELEDOgQIABBDUNQaWPsyYOI8aAJwAHgAgAGuAYgB8QKSAQMxLjKYAQCgAQGwAQXAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=iWeYYt\_uKZeGp8kPrpO-gA8&bih=746&biw=428&client=safari&prmd=niv&hl=en-us](https://www.google.com/search?q=selfie+with+bison&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwif1_KOoI74AhUXwykDHa6JD_AQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=selfie+with+bison&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIFCAAQgAQ6BwgjEOoCECc6CAgAEIAEELEDOgQIABBDUNQaWPsyYOI8aAJwAHgAgAGuAYgB8QKSAQMxLjKYAQCgAQGwAQXAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=iWeYYt_uKZeGp8kPrpO-gA8&bih=746&biw=428&client=safari&prmd=niv&hl=en-us) ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/50 "2022-06-02T21:30:20Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > She is **not** dead Witnesses say she said: “I feel happy! I think I’ll go for a walk!” ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/51 "2022-06-02T21:45:03Z")
The Idiots of Yellowstone would make a good History Channel show. When we were there a few years ago, two dumbasses had gone over the railing at Old Faithful a few months before and shot selfies in front of it. Not a rare occurrence, our guide told us - every year at least once or twice people go over the fence at various hotspots to appreciate nature even more closely. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/52 "2022-06-02T21:54:40Z")
Nitpick - wild beef **≠** bison. In no way should bison be confused with beef. Thread title should be changed. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/53 "2022-06-02T22:02:16Z")
I beg to differ. Bison are just as much beef as cattle are. [Bison are bovines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovinae). And [beef is the flesh of an adult domestic bovine (such as a steer or cow) used as food.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beef) No change to thread title is necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/54 "2022-06-02T22:03:05Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > In no way should bison be confused with beef. Got that right. Bison meat is incredibly lean. If you’re going to fry a bison burger, better grease the pan first. ETA: Don’t confuse Bison meat with meat from cattle, per @TriPolar. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/55 "2022-06-02T22:03:24Z")
Agree bison is not wild beef. But as humor it works. I’m reminded of the classic Tom Lehrer tune _In Old Mexico_ which has the immortal stanza > [@Tom Lehrer](#): > > For there is surely nothing more beautiful in this world > Than the sight of a lone man facing single-handedly > A half a ton of angry pot roast! If a domestic bull can be “pot roast”, a bison can be “wild beef” ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/56 "2022-06-02T22:08:17Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Bison are just as much beef as cattle are I doubt you’ll find a single restaurant in North America that serves both bison and beef cattle that doesn’t distinguish between the two as beef & bison on their menu. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/57 "2022-06-02T23:07:56Z")
I don’t disagree with that. I’m just saying the thread title is valid. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/58 "2022-06-03T00:05:17Z")
Besides, beef of any sort rarely is described as ‘wild.’ Having seen the story elsewhere I twigged what it meant before I opened the thread. Also, rule of funny. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/59 "2022-06-03T00:20:44Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Nitpick - wild beef **≠** bison. In no way should bison be confused with beef. > > Thread title should be changed. 😛 it is the _other_ meaning of “beef” – you know, the one that is like “grouse” ---
**Author:** ![Encinitas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Encinitas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Encinitas)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/60 "2022-06-03T00:53:58Z")
When asked “Where’s the beef?” She replied “About 10 feet below me.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529.md?page=4)