# Tourist vs wild beef .... the beef usually wins **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 1, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529 "2022-06-01T22:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/61 "2022-06-03T04:01:07Z")
I read the older edition, and there are similar books about the Grand Canyon and Yosemite. > **[Death in Yellowstone: Accidents and Foolhardiness in the First National Park:...](https://www.amazon.com/Death-Yellowstone-Accidents-Foolhardiness-National/dp/1515963462)** > > Death in Yellowstone: Accidents and Foolhardiness in the First National Park \[Whittlesey, Lee H., Thorne, Stephen R.\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Death in Yellowstone: Accidents and Foolhardiness in the First National Park ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/62 "2022-06-03T13:31:18Z")
Y’know, I say we created civilization so we could avoid having to endure natural selection. We’ve done too good of a job and some people apparently tend to forget why that is desirable. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/63 "2022-06-03T18:21:06Z")
The ICD 10 code would be Diagnosis Code W55.82XA Struck by other mammals, initial encounter (If it was other hoof stock-not cows-it would be W55.32 but I don’t think bison can be considered stock although I think they have hooves). ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/64 "2022-06-03T19:14:48Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Nitpick - wild beef **≠** bison. In no way should bison be confused with beef. > > Thread title should be changed. 😛 I think the thread title does not need to be changed to, perhaps, pemmican. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/65 "2022-06-03T19:23:41Z")
For the record, even [domestic cattle](https://petkeen.com/how-many-people-killed-by-cows/) can be pretty dangerous. It’s not just the wild beef. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/66 "2022-06-03T19:46:37Z")
Walking right by a large herd of cows free ranging near Bozeman I was plenty nervous with those heifers eye balling me. Family scoffed, but I knew the risk of getting trampled was real. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/67 "2022-06-03T20:20:44Z")
Roger Daltrey once did a series on the History Channel called _Extreme History_. One episode examined how Native Americans lived on the Great Plains. While observing a herd of bison, his tour guide told him, “Oh, those are cows. Don’t worry about them. They’ll just run you over, and then keep going. Watch out for the bull, though. He’ll stop, and stomp you into the ground for a while.” ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/68 "2022-06-03T20:25:51Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > > [@DesertDog](#): > > > > > [@TriPolar](#): > > > > > > Has the tourist ever won? > > > > I think the best the tourist can hope for is a tie – they both go home that evening. > > Tourists do win. That’s the problem, or at least part of it. Everyone who comes home with a selfie with an animal will likely embolden another to try it too. Back in October of 2006 or 2007 we went up to the Grand Canyon for a few days. After watching the sunset we decided to return to Tusayan for dinner. We were driving and stopped for an SUV that had come out of a parking lot and stopped right before it entered the road. The driver turned on its brights and then hopped out and raced up to a male elk, camera in hand. We watched, horrified, and my father finally said “I’m rooting for the elk”. We edged past and left. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/69 "2022-06-03T21:57:19Z")
> [@naita](#): > > “You’ve been on the transplant list for a while, but I believe we’ve now found you a liver.” > “Great!” > “It _is_ just a tiny bit trampled, mind you.” Transplant surgeon in OR: “Who ordered the paté?” ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/70 "2022-06-04T22:36:26Z")
Was in Yellowstone in 08 during August, which is the rut season for Bison. The drive through the valley the congregate in was crowded, because bulls were occasionally having disagreements about who got what cow. I was in an area out of the way with someone else taking pictures, when we saw a guy in an SUV creeping along the road, behind a cow and bull, who were very slowly angling across the road. He got impatient and started crowding the cow, tapping his horn. She made a noise and the bull stopped, turned around, and started pawing the ground with an hoof. I asked the other guy beside me if he saw this happening, he said yes, he had his camera ready. So did I. The driver then realized the bull was not feeling friendly too him, and he slowly backed up. The bull took a couple of steps toward him, then apparently decided he wasn’t worth the trouble, and turned back around to keep slowly crossing the road. We were betting on the bison. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/71 "2022-06-04T23:32:38Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > > [@JaneDoe42](#): > > > > [Javalina babies](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=vEbHunhb&id=CFC7DC99E7CDD140902857B66AF8EEA3C536E62F&thid=OIP.vEbHunhbTFeShTfR0-BIvAHaFG&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.bc46c7ba785b4c57928537d1d3e048bc%3frik%3dL%252bY2xaPu%252bGq2Vw%26riu%3dhttp%253a%252f%252fwww.my-photo-blog.com%252fwp-content%252fuploads%252f2017%252f11%252fbaby-javalina.jpg%26ehk%3djNkz3z3tWmXGCb%252b6XL3FhQBheElMUiJyWD8HgAcYhjs%253d%26risl%3d%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=620&expw=900&q=Baby+Javelina&simid=607995712506904961&FORM=IRPRST&ck=1C8E50F8C3222D6E6C8A9A225DCDB25F&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0) are ugly/cute and look pretty pet-able. - > > Boop! I’ll just leave this here. [https://www.reddit.com/r/forbiddenboops/](https://www.reddit.com/r/forbiddenboops/) ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/72 "2022-06-06T00:04:22Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Don’t confuse Bison meat with meat from cattle Some people raise beefalo, though. Best beef I ever had was one-quarter bison. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/73 "2022-06-14T06:10:50Z")
I’ve been looking for updates on this story but have not found anything more recent than a 6/01 story that was updated on 6/04. Apparently the 25 year old woman is from Grove City OH and she lived, but not much more than that. Here’s the 6/01 story with 6/04 update. [https://www.bigcountrynewsconnection.com/idaho/woman-gored-after-coming-within-10-feet-of-yellowstone-bison/article\_26c964a1-c489-5ff1-85f5-e6880633ef45.html](https://www.bigcountrynewsconnection.com/idaho/woman-gored-after-coming-within-10-feet-of-yellowstone-bison/article_26c964a1-c489-5ff1-85f5-e6880633ef45.html) ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/74 "2022-06-14T12:44:44Z")
Here’s a Yellowstone/bison story from yesterday that mentions the event, but not anything additional on the outcome. It’s possible the journalist just googled and didn’t follow up when not finding an update, but it makes me think she’s at least not dead. > **[Yellowstone bison rests head on boardwalk and, yes, it’s a scene](https://ftw.usatoday.com/2022/06/yellowstone-bison-rests-head-on-boardwalk-and-yes-its-a-scene)** > > Tourists in Yellowstone National Park last week marveled as a bison placed its massive head upon a boardwalk and used the wood as a chin scratcher. Predictably, the sight inspired some tourists, wh… ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/75 "2022-06-14T14:02:35Z")
Agree that the lack of further details on the woman’s injuries / demise are decent circumstantial evidence that she wasn’t hospitalized for long nor massively crippled. More like treated and released. Circumstantially. I’d expect more of a social media storm had she been badly hurt, with unhappy family venting their frustration at less than perfect treatment at a rural clinic, the size of the medical bills, the “incompetence” of the park management and rangers for not protecting her from the bison, etc. All of that _not_ happening (AFAIK) makes me think she got a bunch of stiches, some pain killers, and was sent on her way to lick her wounded pride in private. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/76 "2022-06-14T23:09:51Z")
_In private_ is key. She wouldn’t want to be widely known for not being smart with that bison. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/77 "2022-06-16T03:15:36Z")
Yellowstone is currently closed due to flooding. But perhaps when it reopens all visitors should be required to watch this clip. Then everybody might think twice about approaching a bison. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ctNX5IVJk0A/maxresdefault.jpg "Bison fight in middle of Yellowstone road") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNX5IVJk0A) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/78 "2022-06-16T17:49:13Z")
Note to self: do NOT drive on that road in anything less substantial than a Peterbilt, and frankly I’d prefer a Stryker or an M-1A1. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/79 "2022-06-16T17:53:59Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Yellowstone is currently closed due to flooding. But perhaps when it reopens all visitors should be required to watch this clip. Then everybody might think twice about approaching a bison. - > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNX5IVJk0A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctNX5IVJk0A) That nice bison was helping the other bison across the road. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529/80 "2022-06-16T18:02:38Z")
Q: Why did the bison cross the road? A: Because he was on the horns of a dilemma. Another bison named “Dilemma”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tourist-vs-wild-beef-the-beef-usually-wins/965529.md?page=5)