# Town names that only locals get the pronunciation correct

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**Created:** [August 17, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/town-names-that-only-locals-get-the-pronunciation-correct/969832 "2022-08-17T14:57:50Z")\
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[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ppKzNTP2vQ)

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Worcester is pronounced Wooster in the UK too, so this feels entirely correct to me.

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There’s a town in NJ near to NYC named “Bogota”, but it’s pronounced “bow-go-tah” instead of “bow-go-TAH”, as is the capital of Columbia. Since I took Spanish long before I moved to Jersey, I was continually stumbling over that one.

(No, didn’t live there, and I have left NJ and am now in PA, where I get to deal with Oz and Mastriano.)

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I know the guys that wrote that ad! It’s still one of my favorites.

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There is a town in New Jersey called Moorestown named after a guy named Moore.  
There is a town in New Jersey named Morristown named after a guy named Morris.

Both are pronounced the same.

(Both like you think the second one would be pronounced)

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Leicester Square in London is pronounced “lester” square.

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Quite a few around here:

- Boise, ID
- Moscow, ID
- Weippe, ID
- Kooskia, ID
- Kamiah, ID
- Weiser, ID
- Coeur d’Alene, ID
- Pend Oreille, ID
- Athol, ID

Wait, I’m the one that mispronounces the last one. 😉

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Weippe

[cue Beavis and Butthead laughing] Heh-heh…

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Interesting! The original Suffolk and Norfolk in England are pronounced SUH-fook and NOR-fook (like book)

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I live near **Mickler’s Landing Beach**. It’s pronounced “mike-lers.” The family (who still live here) corrects anyone who pronounces it “mick-lers.”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PFrVZio5d8k/maxresdefault.jpg "Namesakes: Mickler's Landing Beach - First Coast News") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFrVZio5d8k)

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Athol, ID

And here I thought that Kansas was the only state with an Athol.

Turns out there are at least five states with one: Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, South Dakota.

New York originally had an Athol, but it was renamed to Thurman.

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Dante, VA (rhymes with “can’t”).

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Turns out there are at least five states with one: Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, South Dakota.

I guarantee you, the one in ID is the biggest Athol!

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> What, no “Worcestershire”?
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> Not a town, but NYC has Houston (“how-sten”) Street.

And London has “Euston Road”, which _is_ pronounced like the city Houston (or exactly enough that I couldn’t tell the difference when taking the Tube announcement’s accent into account.) I wonder if there is a city somewhere with a Houston street that _is_ pronounced and spelled like the city.

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Some of the variations slip into shades of local **accent** , it seems to me, as much as sharp distinctions of pronunciation. No doubt I’m not stating this in the correct academic terms, but consider Nashville: locals often say “NASH-vul,” with a strong stress on the first syllable and a schwa in the second. But “Nash-ville” is perhaps more commonly heard both there and elsewhere, with approximately equal stress on both syllables (a spondee) and a short “i” in the second. I’m not certain, but I think people with a certain type of rural-inflected southern accent are more likely to say it the first way, and everybody else, the second way, whether they’re locals or not.

Then there’s Louisville, KY: “LOU-a-vul” to most locals, no? “Louey-ville” to others. Is this a difference in pronunciation, or merely accent?

I lived in the Midwest long enough that I use a noticably flat short “a” sound. The way I say the second syllable of “Atlanta” is very different than the way locals say it. But I don’t think I’m using a variant pronunciation; it’s just the funny way I talk.

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> And here I thought that Kansas was the only state with an Athol.
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> Turns out there are at least five states with one: Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, South Dakota.

The original Atholl is in Scotland.

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The Atholl Highlanders is the only private regiment in Europe. It is commanded by the Duke of Atholl and is not part of the British Army.

> **[Atholl Highlanders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atholl_Highlanders)**
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> The Atholl Highlanders is a Scottish ceremonial infantry regiment. They act as the personal bodyguard to the Duke of Atholl, chieftain of the Clan Murray, a family that has thrived in Perthshire for some 750 years. Although it has no official military role, this hand-picked body of local men are armed with Lee–Metford rifles, and the regiment includes a pipe band. Joining the Highlanders is by invitation-only from the Duke, who specially selects men with ties to the estate or the local area. T

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I lived in Moscow, ID for a couple of years, so can pronounce all of those.

And lets not forget the person with my favorite name: [Athol Fugard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athol_Fugard)

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> And here I thought that Kansas was the only state with an Athol.
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> Turns out there are at least five states with one: Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, South Dakota.

Old Massachusetts joke:

Endicott Peabody (Governor of Massachusetts in the mid-1960s) is the only man to have four towns named after him:

Endicott  
Peabody  
Marblehead  
Athol

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Do you happen to go around spray-painting graffiti and causing general mayhem in public?

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