# Toy Story poll (second try) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435 "2013-09-09T20:43:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/21 "2013-09-10T04:32:36Z")
I chose 3. The incinerator scene was just… wow… the toys finally realized that no matter what they could do, they were going to be destroyed. So much conveyed in a few seconds. No more Andy, no more playtime, nothing else is going to come next. Just … the end. I thought it was great. Toy mortality. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/22 "2013-09-10T08:19:31Z")
Love them all, but 2 gets my vote as the funniest and most emotional. I love the Zurg framing story/shoutouts to Star Wars, as well as the _Woody’s Roundup_ show-within-a-show. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/23 "2013-09-10T14:20:39Z")
I choose 2, for all the reasons 2-supporters listed above, plus it has the best villain and the best comeuppance for that villain, in my opinion. She’s an artist! ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/24 "2013-09-10T14:33:36Z")
I’m an outlier- I saw the original and didn’t like it at all. I thought Pixar was highly overrated for quite some time. I wasn’t hooked until Finding Nemo. Subsequently, I loved \*\*\*Toy Story 2 \*\*\*and REALLY loved _ **Toy Story 3** _. I must say, however, with some sadness… I’ve liked recent Pixar efforts, but haven’t LOVED a Pixar movie in a few years now. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/25 "2013-09-10T16:22:11Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > I must say, however, with some sadness… I’ve liked recent Pixar efforts, but haven’t LOVED a Pixar movie in a few years now. Yep, Pixar’s certainly dropped in quality. And it’s easy to pin-point the exact moment: Cars. While they’ve since made much better films, none of them rank with the overall excellence of their first 10 years. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/26 "2013-09-10T16:48:47Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > Yep, Pixar’s certainly dropped in quality. And it’s easy to pin-point the exact moment: Cars. While they’ve since made much better films, none of them rank with the overall excellence of their first 10 years. Yeah, it’s Dan Whitney’s fault. LET’S GET HIM! (I hate that character so much that I call him “Tomato,” just to be ornery.) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/27 "2013-09-10T16:56:18Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > Yep, Pixar’s certainly dropped in quality. And it’s easy to pin-point the exact moment: Cars. While they’ve since made much better films, none of them rank with the overall excellence of their first 10 years. I dissent from that “none of them” bit, and cite _Ratatouille_, _Up_, and I’ll let someone else make the case for _WALL-E_ (although I’m willing to be persuaded). Does anyone know if Michael Crawford got compensated for his performance in _WALL-E_? ---
**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/28 "2013-09-10T19:22:44Z")
toy story came out when i was 14, and i remember enjoying it, but it didn’t change my life or anything. toy story 2 came out when i was 18, which was, at least for me, that phase where you’re too old to be interested in those kinds of movies. i’ve never even seen the whole thing (although i have seen the “when she loved me” sequence and it never fails to make me cry.) toy story 3 came out when i was 29, and i was profoundly moved by it. i’m not sure if it was intended this way(probably not), but how the movies were spaced out really ended up being a stroke of brilliance for the franchise. by the time those of us who were kids when the first movie came out saw the third film, we’d learned a thing or two about loss and growing up and learning to let go of our childhoods, and the theme of the film really resonates. it works for other generations, too-parents who took their young kids to see part one were facing similar scenarios as andy’s mom and the toys by the time part three rolled around. i’ve never gotten through a viewing without being moved to tears. also, it seems almost unfair to the first two films to say three has the best animation, but the animation really is sharp. i can’t take my eyes off of Lotso whenever he’s onscreen-he just looks incredible. the spanish Buzz stuff always makes me laugh, and i really like the dark feel of the whole movie. three is my pick, in case it’s not obvious. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/29 "2013-09-10T19:30:48Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I dissent from that “none of them” bit, and cite _Ratatouille_, _Up_, and I’ll let someone else make the case for _WALL-E_ (although I’m willing to be persuaded). Wall-e was half a good movie, but that second half…christ. Ratatouille was deeply flawed imo, but wasn’t terribly. I will concede Up is probably the closest they’ve come to classic Pixar. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/30 "2013-09-10T20:06:08Z")
I personally voted for 2 because while I think all three are great, 2 was the best for character development. In the first and third movies, the characters were primarily reacted to events beyond their control: Buzz’s arrival, being lost at Pizza Planet, being trapped at Sid’s, being put into storage, being accidentally thrown out, being betrayed by Lotso. But in the second movie, there’s a real choice: Woody can go to Japan or back to Andy. When he goes back to Andy in this movie it wasn’t just because he was trying to escape from something. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/31 "2013-09-10T21:14:49Z")
It’s really hard for me to choose. I was a full blown adult when I saw each of them. I liked the outtakes and bloopers from 2 the most. Especially when Stinky Pete was putting the moves on TWO Barbies. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/32 "2013-09-10T21:32:14Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > Yep, Pixar’s certainly dropped in quality. And it’s easy to pin-point the exact moment: Cars. While they’ve since made much better films, none of them rank with the overall excellence of their first 10 years. Uh, well, I’m an outlier again, on the SDMB anyway. I LIKED _ **Cars** _. A lot. And it was my son’s favorite Pixar movie. _ **Cars 2** _ absolutely bit the big one, however. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/33 "2013-09-10T21:42:47Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Uh, well, I’m an outlier again, on the SDMB anyway. I LIKED _ **Cars** _. A lot. I’m a double outlier. I put _Cars_ among Pixar’s best and am mystified by the endless adoration of _Nemo_ - which was good, no question, but not _that_ good. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/34 "2013-09-10T21:52:24Z")
_Cars_ was probably good if you’re a motorhead, but it doesn’t have the breadth that most Pixar movies do. For us non-motorheads, there’s really not much that appeals. And I also rate _Finding Nemo_ relatively low, for a Pixar movie. I’ve a hunch that most of the people who love it are parents, for whom it resonates more. Personally, I think the best Pixar movie is _The Incredibles_, which works really well in many different ways at once. It’s a great superhero movie, it’s a great spy thriller, it’s a great movie about a perfectly ordinary family and their perfectly ordinary problems. ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435/35 "2013-09-11T16:12:34Z")
Legally and chronologically, I was a full-grown adult when I saw all three movies. Not mentally, mind you, nor emotionally. But I play an adult at work. 🆒 > [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Gotta go with “Toy Story”, just because of its originality in both premise and art form. The first Pixar movie was so amazing to me visually, knowing that everything was computer generated, but forgetting that after awhile and accepting the characters as “real”, with real emotions. In fact, what looked cartoonish and drawn were the people, and most anything the people interacted with. > > They were all great, though. And Pixar has continued to improve people in every movie. > [@Tanbarkie](#): > > Do I have to choose? ☹ This is one of the few “perfect trilogies” - that is, a trilogy in which all three installments are genuinely Great Films. > > Actually, I can’t really think of any others off the top of my head. Anyone? > > To answer the OP’s question… yerrgh. Gun to my head, I guess I’d pick the first film, since it has a certain oddball sense of humor that isn’t present in the latter two. I suspect that’s Whedon’s influence on the screenplay. But all three movies are brilliant. I concur. “Toy Story” was just so _different_, brilliant in its creation of this entire toy universe, that I felt its impact immediately. The next two built upon that world in their own brilliant way. And I saw the first one at The Egyptian theater in Hollywood with life-size toy soldiers trying to walk while stuck on rigid bases, do-it-yourself Toy Story themed Lite Brites. Good times! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/toy-story-poll-second-try/668435.md?page=1)