# TPUSA Halftime show featuring Kid Rock **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 6, 2026, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422 "2026-02-06T06:20:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/321 "2026-02-13T16:26:04Z")
Personally, (yeah me), I love the Canadians here on the board and otherwise. I’ve never found reason to dislike Canadians as a group. In anyway. But, face it your glued to USA by a very long border. If, there’s any peoples who are more like USA citizens I cannot think of who. You are part of this continent. We’re attached to Central and South America as well. By land. It’s a unique set of countries. I apologize to you for your hurt feels for being included in Bad Bunny’s listing of countries. It seems to me, a brown Puerto Rican musician including more white people on his list is magnanimous of him. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/322 "2026-02-13T16:29:36Z")
Of all the possible outcomes of the halftime kerfluffle, I admit that expressions of “Canadian Exceptionalism” did not appear on my list. We live in a truly odd timeline. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/323 "2026-02-13T17:54:04Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I find this whole take completely bananas. Trump has been an impolite jerk to Canada, but he’s not been murdering Canadian citizens using the US military and committing war crimes against Canada. To act like Canada has it worse than other nations is so wrong I don’t even know where to begin. You find the take bananas because you have not understood it. It’s not about “which country has it worse than other nations”. It’s that Canada is having its sovereignty explicitly denied by the US. This is not by far the worst thing that’s happened to any country in the Western Hemisphere, and nobody suggested that. But it is bad, and specific to Canada. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Moreover, to complain that Bad Bunny is “elevating Latin America” is _completely_ missing the point. Nobody is “complaining” about this. I specifically said it’s a good thing for all countries in the Western Hemisphere to be seen as equals in sovereignty and legitimacy to America, and it’s good for Bunny to remind Americans of this, but folding Canada into a generalized “the Americas” is wrong, for the specific reason that this is something Canada is actively fighting against _right now_. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Anyone complaining that Canada isn’t American should study some Spanish to understand the point. Anyone who thinks this is the point of the posts they were responding to, has clearly not studied those posts. It’s a mischaracterization and misunderstanding. However, if you do have a Spanish interpretation that puts things in a different light, I do read Spanish, as do many people on this board, and I’m sure we’d all be glad to hear your take on it. Please feel free to elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/324 "2026-02-13T18:09:43Z")
You say: > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > It’s not about “which country has it worse than other nations”. But: > [@Spoons](#): > > No other country in the Americas has had that level of threat, or indeed, of disrespect towards its sovreignty in the world community of nations. And you say: > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Nobody is “complaining” about this. but: > [@Spoons](#): > > maybe Bad Bunny should have left Canada out of the list. and: > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Hey Bad Bunny, don’t you be lumping Canada in as Americans! I think maybe we’re posting in two different threads. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/325 "2026-02-13T18:16:21Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I think maybe we’re posting in two different threads. There’s a distinction between threatening and disrespecting a country’s _sovereignty_, specifically the recognition of a country’s right to exist, vs. treating them badly or violating their borders or coercing them in other ways. What the Trump admin did to (for example) Venezuela is pretty awful. That’s a distinct and different thing from saying that Venezuela isn’t a real country and that it should be made the 51st state, which is a different bad thing that’s only happening to Canada and Greenland, about which those countries are extremely angry and sensitive (and justifiably so). It’s possible for 2 bad things to be bad in different ways, and to talk about them differently. It doesn’t all have to be collapsed into a contest of who has it worst, or who doesn’t deserve to be mentioned at all. But again maybe we’re laboring under some misunderstandings that could be cleared up by your explanation in Spanish, so please feel free to share that. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/326 "2026-02-13T18:20:27Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > It’s possible for 2 bad things to be bad in different ways, and to talk about them differently. It doesn’t all have to be collapsed into a contest of who has it worst, or who doesn’t deserve to be mentioned at all. Then you wrote this bit **extremely poorly** , because that’s _exactly_ how it comes across. > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > And moreover, while Trump has been doing Latin America dirty like basically other administration for a very long time, he hasn’t been saying to any of them “you are not a real sovereign country, you’re basically a US state or will be, your head of state is going to be one of my governors.” If you didn’t mean to express that Canada has it worse that Latin America, you failed miserably in your messaging. Not to mention that claiming that the US is running a country (as he said about Venezuela), **after kidnapping their leader** , is _absolutely_ denying their sovereignty. Your argument is awful here. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/327 "2026-02-13T18:21:11Z")
We’re all guests on this Continent. Really. Unless you’re part of the Native community. White people complaining holds no weight. Sorry. Same if I complained about my whiteness not being respected in the (USA)American South. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/328 "2026-02-13T18:24:11Z")
Let’s not kid ourselves. When we ask permission to be here and steal their land and resources and they object to it but we stay and take it all anyway, _we are NOT “guests”._ ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/329 "2026-02-13T18:24:36Z")
Yeah, well semantics. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/330 "2026-02-13T18:24:46Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > We’re all guests on this Continent. Really. > > Unless you’re part of the Native community Humans are the interlopers. I side with the mammoths. Or I would, if I could find them. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/331 "2026-02-13T18:25:02Z")
Yeah, well reality. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/332 "2026-02-13T18:25:20Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > But again maybe we’re laboring under some misunderstandings that could be cleared up by your explanation in Spanish, so please feel free to share that. I invite you to read @Frodo’s posts, since I am pessimistic about my ability to communicate successfully with you. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/333 "2026-02-13T18:25:31Z")
Ok. I get you.. We came here from somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/334 "2026-02-13T18:29:56Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Not to mention that claiming that the US is running a country (as he said about Venezuela), **after kidnapping their leader** , is _absolutely_ denying their sovereignty. Your argument is awful here. You are well aware that there’s been no discussion of making Venezuela the 51st state, and I presume you’re aware that Maduro, the person you described as “their leader”, is part of a military junta that wasn’t democratically elected. If you understand these points then you understand the distinction, but it seems like everyone really would rather collapse it all into the statement that Canada’s overall mistreatment by the US is nowhere near that of the rest of Latin America. And the latter is a point I don’t dispute at all. It’s an obvious point that doesn’t really need to be belabored, which is why I’m talking about the less-obvious point. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/335 "2026-02-13T18:37:50Z")
Colour this Canadian extremely confused about this entire chain of discussion. Señor Bunny was simply saying, “God bless America. All of it.” Canada is part of the Americas. Nothing more complicated. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/336 "2026-02-13T18:40:44Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Nothing more complicated. Personally, I’m dismayed by the level of analysis people are bringing to this performance. Sometimes a cigar is simply a cigar. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/337 "2026-02-13T18:41:33Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Colour this Canadian extremely confused about this entire chain of discussion. Señor Bunny was simply saying, “God bless America. All of it.” Canada is part of the Americas. Nothing more complicated. I’m glad to see that #notallCanadians are so confused about his statement. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/338 "2026-02-13T18:41:49Z")
If nothing else, he was saying that the U.S. was vain in thinking they were the be-all and end-all when it comes to America. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/339 "2026-02-13T18:53:32Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > > > We’re all guests on this Continent. Really. > > > > Unless you’re part of the Native community > > Humans are the interlopers. I side with the mammoths. Or I would, if I could find them. Rookie. Trilobite power! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422/340 "2026-02-13T18:56:59Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Señor Bunny was simply saying, “God bless America. All of it.” Canada is part of the Americas. Nothing more complicated. Which to answer an earlier question is how many of we the Spanish-speakers (and a bunch of Anglophones FWIW) understood the plain language. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > If nothing else, he was saying that the U.S. was vain in thinking they were the be-all and end-all when it comes to America Which is how many of those aforementioned groups would have interpreted the message. Like I said, how someone else may feel about it is up to them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tpusa-halftime-show-featuring-kid-rock/1027422.md?page=18)