# Tracy Lord and C K Dexter Haven--any relation? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 22, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924 "2005-05-22T02:20:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![La\_Llorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@La\_Llorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/La_Llorona)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/1 "2005-05-22T02:20:01Z")
Forgive me if this has been asked a million times before, but guests can’t search the forums; I figured this was the appropriate place to put this query (mostly because of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316120)), but I could be wrong. I’m a huge _Philadelphia Story_ fan (“hearthfires and holocausts,” oh my!), so of course I wondered if there’s any connection between **C K Dexter Haven** and **Tracy Lord** , or if it’s only coincidence…? ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/2 "2005-05-22T02:40:14Z")
Only coincidence. “C K Dexter Haven” is a fairly common name, ranks just after “Smith” and “Patel.” ---
**Author:** ![La\_Llorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@La\_Llorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/La_Llorona)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/3 "2005-05-22T03:04:09Z")
_snerks_ Ah, good to know. Thanks for the quick response! ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/4 "2005-05-22T13:32:57Z")
> [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > Only coincidence. “C K Dexter Haven” is a fairly common name, ranks just after “Smith” and “Patel.” Well did you ever? What a swell message board this is! ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/5 "2005-05-22T13:51:00Z")
**glee** : UGH! That’s the wrong movie. ---
**Author:** ![La\_Llorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@La\_Llorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/La_Llorona)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/6 "2005-05-22T15:34:02Z")
You know, I never thought it was possible they could make such a bad movie with Grace Kelly and Satchmo… I was wrong. And from now on, I have a really bad feeling that whenever I see **Dex** ’s name, I’m going to hear Jimmy Stewart’s character in the throes of drunkenness belting out, "C K Dexter Haven! Oh! _C K DEXTER HAAAAAAAVEEEEEEEEN_! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/7 "2005-05-22T16:56:35Z")
> [@La Llorona](#): > > Tracy Lord and C K Dexter Haven–any relation? > [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > Only coincidence. C K Dexter Haven and Trac **i** Lord **s** , on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/8 "2005-05-22T18:34:13Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > C K Dexter Haven and Trac **i** Lord **s** , on the other hand… Sheesh! I thought **I** was the only one that got that download. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/9 "2005-05-23T01:56:26Z")
_pokes head in_ Hey, that’s me! Embarrassingly enough, I had no knowledge of our esteemed administrator’s nomer when I signed up. I’d just finished a two-month run in Philly Story, having one of those “gee, my character and I are the _exact same person!_” experiences, and plugged in the screen name. Voila! ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2005, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/10 "2005-05-23T04:46:37Z")
My sheer coincidence, my real name is _Lydia the Tattooed Lady_, but I figured that it was already taken. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/11 "2005-05-24T13:17:30Z")
> [@C K Dexter Haven](#): > > **glee** : UGH! That’s the wrong movie. Well it was a remake, but you were played by Bing Crosby, who dueted with Frank Sinatra. And Grace Kelly was there too. Surely not an ‘ugh’? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/12 "2005-05-25T02:48:59Z")
**C K Dexter Haven** and **roger thornhill** are, however, the same person. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/13 "2005-05-25T03:32:34Z")
OK. Who left the wine cellar unlocked with **Colibri** coming by? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/14 "2005-05-25T04:03:35Z")
**tomndebb** is young. Well, younger than I. And probably stays up all night reading dictionaries and encyclopedias, instead of watching Hitchcock movies. Please forgive him. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/15 "2005-05-25T04:25:36Z")
Nah. It’s just that every time I’ve wanted to watch North by Northwest, the local station has swapped in The Man Who Knew Too Much, so I’ve never seen N b Nw. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/16 "2005-05-25T04:58:51Z")
And while **Tracy Lord** is the same person as **Eva Lovelace** , **Traci Lords** is no relation to **Linda Lovelace.** Got it straight, now? ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/17 "2005-05-25T05:32:47Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Well it was a remake, but you were played by Bing Crosby, who dueted with Frank Sinatra. > And Grace Kelly was there too. > > Surely not an ‘ugh’? I like\* High Society\* too, especially the Crosby/Sinatra number. Classic stuff.\* But there are some people who…um…like to look down their noses at what Orwell might have called ‘good bad films’, if he hadn’t been so into books. - Have you heard that Mimsey Starr [What now?] She got pinched in the Ass… -tor bar Don’t write 'em like that any more ---
**Author:** ![La\_Llorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@La\_Llorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/La_Llorona)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/18 "2005-05-25T05:54:26Z")
_High Society_ makes the baby Jesus cry! Definitely not good bad but just plain _bad_ bad. Almost as terrible as the version of _Guys and Dolls_ starring Frank Sinatra, Jean “The Robe” Simmons, and (of all people) Marlon Brando. But I’m a huge William Castle fan, so I’ve got to agree with you that there are some films that are just so abysmally bad, they’re good… ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/19 "2005-05-25T06:22:38Z")
Oh, I liked _Guys and Dolls_! And although I love Cole Porter (even sat through _De-Lovely_ twice), I’ll admit that I’ve never seen _High Society_. Miss Hepburn was quite sufficient for me. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2005, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-and-c-k-dexter-haven-any-relation/304924/20 "2005-05-25T07:06:17Z")
Wait until you see Grace Kelly in her final film appearance. She’s smoking! The Cole Porter songs alone make the film worth watching (besides Louis Armstrong, and Sinatra/Crosby taking the mick out of each other in ‘Well Did You Evah?’): ‘Mind If I Make Love To You’, ‘True Love’, ‘Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?’, ‘You’re Sensational’, etc. Review [here](http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/h/high_society.html).