# Tracy Lord just doesn't get it **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 12, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761 "2005-11-12T20:43:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/1 "2005-11-12T20:43:32Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6789963&postcount=6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6789963&postcount=6) We _get_ Arrested Development. We _just don’t think it’s the greatest show since sliced bread_. I will not be insulted by a bunch of snobby television fans because my tastes don’t match your tastes **and that makes you pissed**. Fucking deal with it. A lot of people didn’t watch Arrested Development. It’s not because they didn’t get it. It’s because they didn’t like it. It’s dead. It’s going to be canceled. Now stop telling me how morally bankrupt my taste in television is because you just come off like (to steal a line from a Fox show still on the air) a dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/2 "2005-11-12T21:42:57Z")
Yes, I know a rabid AD fan. Obnoxiously so. Went so far as to make the claim that liking AD was one of the baseline rules for being his friend. Oh, well…guess we’ll stay office mates. In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, “What a dope. What a maroon!” ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/3 "2005-11-12T22:07:40Z")
This was the same argument people were throwing around about “Lost In Translation” - that if you didn’t like it, you didn’t get it. Pissed me off, too. It just strikes me as the most arrogant argument out there . Guess what? I got it. Done plenty of traveling. Spent a shitload of time in foreign countries on my own. Should have been the perfect movie for me. And it _still_ sucked, in my opinion. I got it. I hated it. Get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/4 "2005-11-12T22:13:42Z")
I…agree with you? I’m not saying what you claim I’m saying at all. I’m explaining why people would accuse you of not getting it – because that’s true for most people who don’t like it. Not you guys. Did you read my second post in that thread? ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/5 "2005-11-12T22:15:26Z")
(or even the first post very closely?) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/6 "2005-11-12T22:15:56Z")
Did you read his first post where he said he didn’t WANT people coming in and saying, “You just don’t get it?” ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/7 "2005-11-12T22:18:34Z")
But I’m NOT saying he doesn’t get it. I’m saying “Here’s why people _would_ say that, but they’re wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/8 "2005-11-12T22:19:30Z")
I’m not sure how that makes a difference - the whole line of thought still pisses me off. Even if it’s something that I happen to love, the “you don’t like it because you don’t get it” argument just sucks. Whether intentionally or not, it just reeks of snobbery - that some things only appeal to those refined enough to understand it. The SDMB isn’t some super elite group of ultra-refined people, so I don’t see how it makes sense to say (basically) “Well, yeah, you Dopers who don’t like it are clearly okay in not liking it, but everybody else? Feh, they just don’t get it.” ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/9 "2005-11-12T22:25:42Z")
Obviously my ability to communicate is on the fritz today, and for that I apologize. I was trying to delineate two groups: Group A - People who watched it, “got it”, but didn’t like it Group B - People who watched it, didn’t “get it”, and didn’t like it. Most people in my experience who didn’t like the show fall into Group B. The people in the thread (and presumably more people not on the SDMB, but the only ones I’ve encountered are here) are in Group A. I was saying, “The reason fans think you’re in Group B is because most people we know are in Group B. Even though you’re in Group A, that’s why people think you’re in Group B.” ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/10 "2005-11-12T22:28:08Z")
What constitutes “getting it”? Maybe if you can clear that up, I can sympathize with the position, because at the moment my position is, there’s no such thing as Group B. Either people like it, or they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/11 "2005-11-12T22:33:39Z")
In my experience, I’ve had people tell me they dislike it because: - there was no laugh track - they had to pay “too much attention” - they mistook it for a real documentary Those people fall into Group B for me. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/12 "2005-11-12T22:36:18Z")
> [@Tracy Lord](#): > > In my experience, I’ve had people tell me they dislike it because: > > - there was no laugh track > - they had to pay “too much attention” > - they mistook it for a real documentary > > Those people fall into Group B for me. Ahhhh, there’s the rub… **Tracy** , that’s a small selection of people you’re talking to there–not the entire audience. Some people _do_ get it, and pay attention and don’t need a laugh track and don’t mistake it for a documentary, but they just don’t like it. That’s it. That’s all there is to it. ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/13 "2005-11-12T22:41:24Z")
Yes, I’m agreeing with you. **Justin\_Bailey** expressed frustration that fans were judging him for not liking the show. I tried to explain why some fans were so quick to brush off his opinion. I don’t agree with the people who say “doesn’t like Arrested Development = no taste/doesn’t get it”, but I was trying to explain why that view is so prevalent. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/14 "2005-11-12T23:01:26Z")
> [@Tracy Lord](#): > > Yes, I’m agreeing with you. > > **Justin\_Bailey** expressed frustration that fans were judging him for not liking the show. I tried to explain why some fans were so quick to brush off his opinion. I don’t agree with the people who say “doesn’t like Arrested Development = no taste/doesn’t get it”, but I was trying to explain why that view is so prevalent. Ahhhhh, okay. The fog clears, the light bulb goes on, the mist of ignorance lifts… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/15 "2005-11-12T23:05:58Z")
> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#): > > The SDMB isn’t some super elite group of ultra-refined people, I _beg_ your pahdun?! ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/16 "2005-11-12T23:10:31Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > We _get_ Arrested Development. We _just don’t think it’s the greatest show since sliced bread_. I really don’t think you get it. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/17 "2005-11-12T23:31:42Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > We _get_ Arrested Development. We _just don’t think it’s the greatest show since sliced bread_. I’m wondering how great a show about sliced bread could be. ---
**Author:** ![soulmurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@soulmurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulmurk)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/18 "2005-11-12T23:43:56Z")
Isn’t getting it what got Tracy Lords into trouble in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/19 "2005-11-12T23:44:31Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > I’m wondering how great a show about sliced bread could be. You just don’t get sliced bread. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761/20 "2005-11-12T23:49:19Z")
> [@Tracy Lord](#): > > I…agree with you? > > I’m not saying what you claim I’m saying at all. I’m explaining why people would accuse you of not getting it – because that’s true for most people who don’t like it. Not you guys. > > Did you read my second post in that thread? I get what you’re saying, and I read your posts in the other thread, it’s just that… 1. You seemed to have missed the part where I said I liked AD, I just didn’t love it like some do around here. 2. You brushed off any criticism of the show with the “you don’t get it” defense. But then qualified it with “But I don’t mean you, I mean other people.” That’s terribly insulting. You also seemed to miss the part where I listed my (in your own words) very valid criticisms of the show. Those were also brushed off. “You don’t get it” just really sticks in my craw. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-lord-just-doesnt-get-it/330761.md?page=2)