# Tracy Morgan crashed his $2 million Bugatti in New York  **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067 "2019-06-05T12:06:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/21 "2019-06-05T14:27:23Z")
It looks to me like the other driver is turn right from the middle lane. Idon’t see any indicatio non Google Maps that there’s a dual turn lane (and I don’t see any reason why there would be). https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.7594662,-73.9955443&z=19&output=embed&dg=ntvb&q=W%2B42nd%2BSt%2B%26%2B10th%2BAve,%2BNew%2BYork,%2BNY%2B10036 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/22 "2019-06-05T14:36:04Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > It looks to me like the other driver is turn right from the middle lane. Idon’t see any indicatio non Google Maps that there’s a dual turn lane (and I don’t see any reason why there would be). > > [Google Maps](https://goo.gl/maps/bxWWDLxnn26q8WHCA) No wonder NYC is so bad! There’s a food cart [RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE](https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+42nd+St+%26+10th+Ave,+New+York,+NY+10036/@40.7596216,-73.9955738,45m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c2584d83538fa5:0x763c1fcb78c3247e!8m2!3d40.7596529!4d-73.9954615) of the intersection! Obviously unfamous driver was just avoiding the NYC-unique road hazard.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/23 "2019-06-05T14:36:53Z")
I thought that was a typical two lane turn at that light. Both cars are expected to stay in their own lane. If that’s not the case then maybe the other driver is at fault. They’ll report who got ticketed in the next day or so. It’s just a fender bender. Not much damage but those carbon fiber body’s are expensive to repair. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/24 "2019-06-05T14:43:27Z")
Without any evidence I still expect that idiot Morgan caused the crash. He probably zoomed out of that dealership like he was in a Formula 1 race. And I can’t help mentioning that I hate him because the cutest girl in the 6th grade was named Tracy Morgan and as soon as I saw him on SNL that memory was ruined for me forever. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/25 "2019-06-05T14:55:39Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > He sued Walmart after one of their trucks nearly killed him and received an undisclosed amount in a settlement. I’m guessing that amount exceeded $2 million. Yes, by far. According to the second link in the OP, he allegedly won $90 million. So, a slightly used Bugatti is just pocket change to him. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/26 "2019-06-05T15:03:55Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Tracey could sue the lady for the remainder, but good luck with that. So, there’s an interesting legal question here. A routine fender bender takes place, where the damage to a normal car would be of the order of $1000. Party A is 100% at fault (and it’s not in dispute), B is driving an exotic car, and the damage to the car costs $100,000 to repair. What is A’s liability? On common sense grounds, it seems unjust that A should be liable for more than ~$1000, since drivers have a reasonable prior expectation of potential liability when driving based on sharing the road with “normal” cars. Although B was not at fault for the accident, B was responsible for elevating the level of risk 100-fold beyond normal expectations by taking such a valuable car on the road. B’s actions seem almost analogous to driving a normal car with a fragile $100,000 sculpture sitting on the seat beside him, and then claiming for the value of the sculpture if it’s damaged in a fender bender. I’m not sure though. I know there’s a doctrine in criminal law known as the _eggshell skull_ doctrine, or _you take your victim as you find him_. This says that if (say) you punch someone, an act that would cause only minor injury to most people, but it turns out that your victim has a medical condition that makes them especially fragile and your punch kills them, you are guilty of homicide. Wikipedia says it’s applicable in tort law as well as criminal law, but all the examples are of personal injury, not damage to property. > **[Eggshell skull](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull)** > > The eggshell rule (also thin skull rule, papier-mâché-plaintiff rule, or talem qualem rule) is a well-established legal doctrine in common law, used in some tort law systems, with a similar doctrine applicable to criminal law. The rule states that, in a tort case, the unexpected frailty of the injured person is not a valid defense to the seriousness of any injury caused to them. > This rule holds that a tortfeasor is liable for all consequences resulting from their tortious (usually negligent) ac... ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/27 "2019-06-05T15:09:30Z")
Seems like Bentleys are the priciest cars I see around here. Always kinda gets my attention, to think someone would be comfortable driving that much $ around w/ all these yahoos (including ME!) When I had an antique car, I was glad it was not so pristine that I would go nuts over every ding and scratch. I certainly have never driven a Bugatti, but I know some high-powered cars drive differently enough from mass market cars that it is a good idea for the driver to seek some training/experience before getting into heavy traffic. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/28 "2019-06-05T15:10:51Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > So, there’s an interesting legal question here. > > A routine fender bender takes place, where the damage to a normal car would be of the order of $1000. Party A is 100% at fault (and it’s not in dispute), B is driving an exotic car, and the damage to the car costs $100,000 to repair. What is A’s liability? > > On common sense grounds, it seems unjust that A should be liable for more than ~$1000, since drivers have a reasonable prior expectation of potential liability when driving based on sharing the road with “normal” cars. Although B was not at fault for the accident, B was responsible for elevating the level of risk 100-fold beyond normal expectations by taking such a valuable car on the road. B’s actions seem almost analogous to driving a normal car with a fragile $100,000 sculpture sitting on the seat beside him, and then claiming for the value of the sculpture if it’s damaged in a fender bender. > > I’m not sure though. I know there’s a doctrine in criminal law known as the _eggshell skull_ doctrine, or _you take your victim as you find him_. This says that if (say) you punch someone, an act that would cause only minor injury to most people, but it turns out that your victim has a medical condition that makes them especially fragile and your punch kills them, you are guilty of homicide. Wikipedia says it’s applicable in tort law as well as criminal law, but all the examples are of personal injury, not damage to property. > [Eggshell skull - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull) IANAL but I have watched numerous episodes of Judge Judy. According to her you pay for the damages you cause. OTOH if you have a “You break it you buy it” policy in a store you have to make sure fragile items are well secured so they don’t break from incidental touching. But I have my doubts that the other driver will be found liable in this case anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/29 "2019-06-05T15:12:13Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I was under the impression Ferraris and Bugattis were intended for the highway? Isn’t that the point of all that horsepower and precision suspension? > [@TriPolar](#): > > He should have had the car delivered to the highway. He can park it on the side of the highway and walk the rest of the way once he reaches his highway exit. Well, acey is not completely off the mark. Cars like that have very little clearance. I’d never drive one in Manhattan because the roads are in such poor shape - you’d smash up your front spoiler on the bumps in no time. Lamborghini has a front suspension lift system to try to make them a bit more practical: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/qhH2q9gbAGY/maxresdefault.jpg "Aventador lifting system") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhH2q9gbAGY) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/30 "2019-06-05T15:13:32Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Yes, by far. According to the second link in the OP, he allegedly won $90 million. So, a slightly used Bugatti is just pocket change to him. It says it was shared with Fuqua and another link says Tracy is worth 12 million. So I think it’s unclear. But it’s still affordable for him. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/31 "2019-06-05T15:13:57Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I was under the impression Ferraris and Bugattis were intended for the highway? Isn’t that the point of all that horsepower and precision suspension? Even if that was the case, there’s likely not an on ramp in the dealership parking lot. > [@aceplace57](#): > > Tracy Crashes his 2 million dollar toy fifteen minutes after picking it up at the dealership. :ROLLEYES: Did they actually assign fault yet. I saw this posted the other day and it just said they didn’t know who caused it, but had a feeling it was the CRV. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/32 "2019-06-05T15:15:46Z")
I think at this point, if I were Tracy Morgan, I’d just become a pedestrian. Someone clearly put a car-related curse on him. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/33 "2019-06-05T15:17:15Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > IANAL but I have watched numerous episodes of Judge Judy. According to her you pay for the damages you cause. OTOH if you have a “You break it you buy it” policy in a store you have to make sure fragile items are well secured so they don’t break from incidental touching. But I have my doubts that the other driver will be found liable in this case anyway. So, isn’t there an argument that if your car is valuable/fragile enough to sustain $100,000 damage in a fender bender, your duty to secure it implies that you should not take it on public roads? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/34 "2019-06-05T15:17:47Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Even if that was the case, there’s likely not an on ramp in the dealership parking lot. > > Did they actually assign fault yet. I saw this posted the other day and it just said they didn’t know who caused it, but had a feeling it was the CRV. They haven’t assigned fault yet. I’ve speculated based on TMZ’s photos but was careful to point out it’s not clear which vehicle violated their lane. ---
**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/35 "2019-06-05T15:19:07Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > The mystery for me is how that low-talent unfunny hack has enough money to buy a 10-year old Hyundai, let alone a $2M Bugatti. Hey now, he picked up a 7 year old used car in that 2012 Bugatti Veyron. So he’s not going TOO crazy. And yeah, it’s definitely the other driver at fault for making an illegal right turn from the center lane. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/36 "2019-06-05T15:19:08Z")
[quote=“Riemann, post:29, topic:835067”] Well, acey is not completely off the mark. Cars like that have very little clearance. I’d never drive one in Manhattan because the roads are in such poor shape - you’d smash up your front spoiler on the bumps in no time. Lamborghini has a front suspension lift system to try to make them a bit more practical: [/QUOTE] Sure, but there can be equally bad roads between where you live and the highway anywhere. This can be a problem with any sporty type low sitting car. I’m sure I would have had some mufflers last longer in cars I’ve had like that if I could only drive them on the highway. I will say though, if for some reason I was forced to live in NYC I wouldn’t keep a good car there. Although I think it would be impossible to force me to live there, if you held a gun on me I’d just say ‘shoot’. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/37 "2019-06-05T15:20:17Z")
TMZ just said that Tracy Morgan[did not, in fact, crash his $2,000,000 car](https://www.tmz.com/2019/06/05/tracy-morgan-bugatti-crash-not-at-fault-nypd/). An NYPD officer happened to see it happen and said the CRV hit him. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/38 "2019-06-05T15:21:46Z")
According to TMZ, a NYPD traffic agent witnessed the accident and has stated that it was the other driver’s fault. > **[Tracy Morgan Not at Fault in Bugatti Crash, NYPD Witnessed Accident](https://www.tmz.com/2019/06/05/tracy-morgan-bugatti-crash-not-at-fault-nypd/)** > > Tracy Morgan not at fault in Bugatti crash, NYPD witnessed accident. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/39 "2019-06-05T15:23:10Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > So, there’s an interesting legal question here. > > A routine fender bender takes place, where the damage to a normal car would be of the order of $1000. Party A is 100% at fault (and it’s not in dispute), B is driving an exotic car, and the damage to the car costs $100,000 to repair. What is A’s liability? > > On common sense grounds, it seems unjust that A should be liable for more than ~$1000, since drivers have a reasonable prior expectation of potential liability when driving based on sharing the road with “normal” cars. Although B was not at fault for the accident, B was responsible for elevating the level of risk 100-fold beyond normal expectations by taking such a valuable car on the road. B’s actions seem almost analogous to driving a normal car with a fragile $100,000 sculpture sitting on the seat beside him, and then claiming for the value of the sculpture if it’s damaged in a fender bender. > > I’m not sure though. I know there’s a doctrine in criminal law known as the _eggshell skull_ doctrine, or _you take your victim as you find him_. This says that if (say) you punch someone, an act that would cause only minor injury to most people, but it turns out that your victim has a medical condition that makes them especially fragile and your punch kills them, you are guilty of homicide. Wikipedia says it’s applicable in tort law as well as criminal law, but all the examples are of personal injury, not damage to property. > [Eggshell skull - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull) It depends on your policy. I think the minimum required is 50k in liability. I think that is also supposed to cover medical expenses. But I can’t say for sure. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067/40 "2019-06-05T15:25:35Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > It says it was shared with Fuqua and another link says Tracy is worth 12 million. So I think it’s unclear. But it’s still affordable for him. Yeah, admittedly Damon Wayans was pulling that $90 million figure out of his ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-crashed-his-2-million-bugatti-in-new-york/835067.md?page=3)