# Tracy Morgan: I'll kill my son if he talks in a gay voice **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 10, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027 "2011-06-10T21:13:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/21 "2011-06-10T22:58:47Z")
Whats odd is Tracy Morgan has always come across to me as effeminate. Have you ever seen his [Brian Fellow’s Safari Planet](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw63uz5qmOg&feature=related)? Whats Tracy going to do when his son does an impersonation of him? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/22 "2011-06-10T23:05:24Z")
I’ll never get these people- comics, athletes, actors, whoever- that say faggot and dike and other gay slurs then come out with an “I didn’t understand those words are hurtful” apologies. I would believe them perhaps if English wasn’t their first language and they’d only been here a short time or they’ve been in a coma for 40 years but :rolleyes: to everyone else. From the apology article: > [@](#): > > GLAAD released a statement this afternoon asking Morgan to “meet with family members who have lost children to anti-gay violence in order to help him understand exactly why his rant touched so deep a nerve.” “If Tracy Morgan is sincere, he should take us up on meeting these families who have lost loved ones to the type of violence that he is mocking. Perhaps by hearing their stories, he will learn that while we all love humor, this is no laughing matter,” said GLAAD President Jarrett Barrio. While I would dispute the “we all love humor” part (professional minorities, be they GLBT or black or Hispanic or blind Latvians) aren’t generally known for their ability to find levity- I think the notion of setting up meetings twixt Morgans and genuine bonafide captivity raised homos is ridiculous. My official response as a gay man is “Fuck you you fucking fuck. Tracy Morgan never had a lick of talent, pass the biscuits, please”. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/23 "2011-06-10T23:12:58Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > That’s not the entire comment of course. Everything has a context. Specifically his was "“Gay is something that kids learn from the media and programming” and that his son “better talk to me like a man and not in a gay voice or I’ll pull out a knife and stab that little nigger to death.” I guess Tracy Morgan \*wasn’t \*one of the people who gave a thumbs up to that “[Mini Warbler](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxuWSXwR4Mc)” video that went viral this week. (For anyone who doesn’t feel like watching, it’s a very young boy dressed up as one of the gay characters on _Glee_ and dancing along to a scene from the show.) ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/24 "2011-06-10T23:17:31Z")
“If they can take a dick up the ass, they can take a joke” That is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/25 "2011-06-10T23:38:39Z")
So the dude who has a gay lisp says his son better not talk with one, or he’ll kill him? Wow. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/26 "2011-06-11T00:01:57Z")
I would point out that the quote is not, stickly speaking, ‘anti-gay’; it’s anti ‘stereotypical gay voice’. If I had a gay son that lisped or a gay daughter that wore ill-fitting Dickie pants, I have a talk with them about the need to behave according to stereotypes. I wouldn’t consider knifing one of them though. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/27 "2011-06-11T00:10:58Z")
I’m sorry to get all biblical on you, but “it’s what comes out of a man’s mouth that defiles him.” It isn’t that I’m offended so much as Tracy Morgan has just proved to me, in as conclusive a manner as possible, that he’s an asshole. And his apology doesn’t contain the phrase I really want to see, some variation on “I’m sorry that I’m enough of an asshole to talk about knifing my son and pass it off as a joke. I’m sorry that I’m enough of an asshole to make lame jokes about gay people.” “I’m sorry that some people got offended.” doesn’t cut it with me. The only good thing that can come of this is another George Takai PSA… ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/28 "2011-06-11T00:20:08Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Dear Lord forgive me, I laughed at that. Oh, dear Og, me too. Edit: The “mini Warbler” is adorable! ---
**Author:** ![ExcitedIdiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@ExcitedIdiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExcitedIdiot)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/29 "2011-06-11T01:51:06Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > I can take a joke as well as anybody, but considering the bullying and suicide problems of young gay kids, those “jokes” are reprehensible. And I’m sure his so-called “apology” is meaningless. You can’t joke about gays, because gay people have problems? ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/30 "2011-06-11T01:52:13Z")
I think I mixed together Trace Atkins and Lori Morgan. StG ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/31 "2011-06-11T01:54:21Z")
> [@j66](#): > > I would point out that the quote is not, stickly speaking, ‘anti-gay’; it’s anti ‘stereotypical gay voice’. > > If I had a gay son that lisped or a gay daughter that wore ill-fitting Dickie pants, I have a talk with them about the need to behave according to stereotypes. > > I wouldn’t consider knifing one of them though. No, I think the context is clear. The problem Morgan has with a “gay voice” is that gay people use it. There’s a whole bunch of wrong here: Gay people all talk a certain way. People that talk a certain way are all gay. You can become gay because you saw a gay person on TV. Gay people can stop being gay if they want to. It’s okay to pick on gay people. It’s okay to kill gay people. ---
**Author:** ![ExcitedIdiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@ExcitedIdiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExcitedIdiot)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/32 "2011-06-11T02:18:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, I think the context is clear. The problem Morgan has with a “gay voice” is that gay people use it. > > There’s a whole bunch of wrong here: > > Gay people all talk a certain way. > People that talk a certain way are all gay. > You can become gay because you saw a gay person on TV. > Gay people can stop being gay if they want to. > It’s okay to pick on gay people. > It’s okay to kill gay people. No. He’s a comedian, and his act is mostly him acting ludicrously. He didn’t call a press conference to tell the world his opinions, he was telling jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/33 "2011-06-11T02:19:11Z")
> [@ExcitedIdiot](#): > > You can’t joke about gays, because gay people have problems? It’s not that funny when gay people are killed or beaten for being gay, or driven to suicide, which is getting a lot of attention now. “Joking” about that kind of violence isn’t funny. So maybe a joke would have been ok if it didn’t too accurately reflect the reality a lot of kids have to go through. Stabbing a child: height of humor. If he had made a joke that wasn’t about violence, I’d not like and dislike him a lot, but I might be able to not let it bother me too terribly much. But this was too far. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/34 "2011-06-11T02:24:50Z")
I remember seeing that routine on his HBO special a week or two ago and just wincing. It got lots of laughs, though. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/35 "2011-06-11T02:24:56Z")
> [@ExcitedIdiot](#): > > No. He’s a comedian, and his act is mostly him acting ludicrously. He didn’t call a press conference to tell the world his opinions, he was telling jokes. Your argument, then, is that as long as something is cast in the form of a joke, it cannot (or at least, should not) be offensive? ---
**Author:** ![ExcitedIdiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@ExcitedIdiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExcitedIdiot)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/36 "2011-06-11T02:27:03Z")
> [@Ruby Sees](#): > > It’s not that funny when gay people are killed or beaten for being gay, or driven to suicide, which is getting a lot of attention now. “Joking” about that kind of violence isn’t funny. > > So maybe a joke would have been ok if it didn’t too accurately reflect the reality a lot of kids have to go through. Stabbing a child: height of humor. > > If he had made a joke that wasn’t about violence, I’d not like and dislike him a lot, but I might be able to not let it bother me too terribly much. But this was too far. Everyone has a subject that hits to close to home for them. I understand if people think it isn’t funny. If we ban joking about anything that is a touchy subject for anyone, there won’t be anything left to joke about. ---
**Author:** ![ExcitedIdiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@ExcitedIdiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExcitedIdiot)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/37 "2011-06-11T02:28:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Your argument, then, is that as long as something is cast in the form of a joke, it cannot (or at least, should not) be offensive? I didn’t say it wasn’t offensive. I said he wasn’t encouraging people to stab gay people. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/38 "2011-06-11T02:31:32Z")
> [@ExcitedIdiot](#): > > Everyone has a subject that hits to close to home for them. I understand if people think it isn’t funny. If we ban joking about anything that is a touchy subject for anyone, there won’t be anything left to joke about. Who said anything about a ban? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/39 "2011-06-11T02:35:44Z")
> [@ExcitedIdiot](#): > > No. He’s a comedian, and his act is mostly him acting ludicrously. He didn’t call a press conference to tell the world his opinions, he was telling jokes. Kinda like how [Michael Richards](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOtU6EjHjoY) doesn’t really hate black people? I’ve been a comedian. I did it for about six years. And I’m pretty liberal, and think that too many people get upset too easily about too many things. And I think that Tracy Morgan went too far. ---
**Author:** ![ExcitedIdiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@ExcitedIdiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExcitedIdiot)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027/40 "2011-06-11T02:36:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Who said anything about a ban? You’re right. My mistake. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tracy-morgan-ill-kill-my-son-if-he-talks-in-a-gay-voice/585027.md?page=3)