# Trade your Bibles for Porn -- "Smut for Smut" Event!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251 "2010-03-04T06:27:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ragerdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@ragerdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ragerdude)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/1 "2010-03-04T06:27:51Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU_7j5Ctuo4) The Atheist Agenda, a student group at the University of Texas at San Antonio, hosted a provocative event over the past few days. Students would receive free porn in exchange for their holy texts. I as a Christian was impressed by their bravery. However, I’m not sure that their tactics will convert many Christians. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![ragerdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@ragerdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ragerdude)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/2 "2010-03-04T06:31:19Z")
Here is one atheist’s response: [http://media.www.theindependentutsa.com/media/storage/paper1093/news/2007/02/26/LetterToTheEditor/Annoyed.Atheist.Against.Atheist.Agenda-2741699.shtml](http://media.www.theindependentutsa.com/media/storage/paper1093/news/2007/02/26/LetterToTheEditor/Annoyed.Atheist.Against.Atheist.Agenda-2741699.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/3 "2010-03-04T06:45:52Z")
Amusing, but unlikely to accomplish anything. There’s no shortage of Bibles, and there’s plenty of free porn on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/4 "2010-03-04T06:50:45Z")
Amusing my ass. Bunch of ill mannered snot nosed little punks. They’ve accomplished nothing but bringing shame on themselves and embarrassing the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/5 "2010-03-04T06:53:17Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Amusing my ass. Bunch of ill mannered snot nosed little punks. They’ve accomplished nothing but bringing shame on themselves and embarrassing the rest of us. I don’t think they should be ashamed and I’m not embarrassed. Perhaps you don’t speak with the authority that you think you do. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/6 "2010-03-04T07:01:18Z")
It reminds me of the type of shenanigans pulled in the last few years by college campus conservative clubs. Such as the Affirmative Action Bake Sales, that charged white customers a dollar for a donut, and black customers a dime (making the – _hur, hur_ – “point” that minorities always got an official break to attend the college, so they should get one to buy donuts, too). You know, _trolls_. So did you see anyone trade in a bible for some smut? And was it any good, or just weak-sauce stuff like _Oui, Hustler_, and _Penthouse Letters_? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/7 "2010-03-04T07:06:52Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I don’t think they should be ashamed and I’m not embarrassed. Perhaps you don’t speak with the authority that you think you do. Of course not. As it has been hammered out many times in many threads, there is no high authority for atheism. That said, if their purpose was to convert Christians, then it was monumentally stupid. Doing something they consider crassly immoral and sacrilegious just confirms the stereotype that atheists are an evil force. As a publicity stunt, well, it depends on whether you view all publicity as good publicity. ---
**Author:** ![ragerdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@ragerdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ragerdude)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/8 "2010-03-04T07:34:17Z")
I got there toward the end of the events, after they had already put everything away. I didn’t see any exchanges, but I did get to talk to them for a short while. At that time I was the only Christian talking to them. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/9 "2010-03-04T07:40:50Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > That said, if their purpose was to convert Christians, then it was monumentally stupid. Doing something they consider crassly immoral and sacrilegious just confirms the stereotype that atheists are an evil force. Is that what their purpose was or were they just being silly college students. Let’s face it, no matter how respectably they act few fundamentalist christians are going to accept them so why bother? I say, if they don’t appreciate you living above their level, then stoop down to theirs and have some fun already! ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/10 "2010-03-04T07:43:32Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > As a publicity stunt, well, it depends on whether you view all publicity as good publicity. I imagine it was sort of like a Gay Pride parade. Letting other atheists know that they’re not alone. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/11 "2010-03-04T07:58:42Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Amusing, but unlikely to accomplish anything. There’s no shortage of Bibles, and there’s plenty of free porn on the Internet. Besides, it would have to be good porn - there’s some quality sex and violence in the Bible. One wouldn’t want to trade down. ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/12 "2010-03-04T08:03:48Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > > [@Oakminster](#): > > > > Amusing my ass. Bunch of ill mannered snot nosed little punks. They’ve accomplished nothing but bringing shame on themselves and embarrassing the rest of us. > > I don’t think they should be ashamed and I’m not embarrassed. Perhaps you don’t speak with the authority that you think you do. Oh C’mon **Oakminster** , lighten up. This is funny. ---
**Author:** ![GreatStuffMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f04885/32.png) [@GreatStuffMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreatStuffMan)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/13 "2010-03-04T13:17:49Z")
Am I the only one thinking this is funny as hell? Regardless of whether this was the most tactile event ever organized in the name of spreading Atheism, it surely did have an effect and sparked some debate. And that in itself is part of the point of the organization, I’m sure. Hence, they succeeded. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/14 "2010-03-04T13:52:48Z")
> [@GreatStuffMan](#): > > Am I the only one thinking this is funny as hell? Nope. A coworker and I were basically crying we were laughing so hard at this. If it’s trading for the kind of pr0n that it’s the bible, I’m not interested – incest and rape pr0n are not to my liking. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/15 "2010-03-04T15:14:59Z")
I’m not particularly amused _or_ offended. I think it’s kind of silly and childish. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/16 "2010-03-04T15:23:49Z")
Does every holy book traded in get the same porn, or is there a sliding scale? I mean, right next to me on the bookshelf in my classroom is a New American Standard Bible, a translation of the Qu’ran, the Book of Mormon, a book of Buddhist scriptures, a book of Hindu scriptures and the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Does the Book of Mormon get me three-way porn? Does Hindu scripture get multiple hand-job videos? I have to know! ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/17 "2010-03-04T15:48:08Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Amusing my ass. Bunch of ill mannered snot nosed little punks. They’ve accomplished nothing but bringing shame on themselves and embarrassing the rest of us. Did you know that there is more than one world view? (It’s surprising how many people don’t seem to be aware of that fact). ---
**Author:** ![Phatlewt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a698b9/32.png) [@Phatlewt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phatlewt)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/18 "2010-03-04T16:17:20Z")
Why do people so often assume that atheists are interested in converting anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/19 "2010-03-04T16:19:36Z")
The sort of thing I’d have found screamingly funny as a college student after a few joints, but which I’d have soon regretted as displaying to the whole world an embarrasing degree of callowness. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/20 "2010-03-04T16:23:31Z")
I think it’s funny. I also think some of the college age men I know would have loved this event and would consider it a chance to actually use the gift bibles they received as graduation presents for something they wanted. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251.md?page=2)