# Trade your Bibles for Porn -- "Smut for Smut" Event!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251 "2010-03-04T06:27:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/21 "2010-03-04T16:34:34Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Besides, it would have to be good porn - there’s some quality sex and violence in the Bible. One wouldn’t want to trade down. > [@RitterSport](#): > > Nope. A coworker and I were basically crying we were laughing so hard at this. > > If it’s trading for the kind of pr0n that it’s the bible, I’m not interested – incest and rape pr0n are not to my liking. Yeah, RS, as I was just about to say to K2, the idea has a certain humor that would be lost on most fundies, and plenty of non-fundies. I was about to say that the Bible has sexual porn, and violence porn, and sexual violence porn, and sex-alongside-violence porn, and patting-yourself-on-the-back “righteousness” porn, and guilt porn, and finally, the-joke-is-really-on-those-pointy-headed-intellectuals porn. I mean, that’s enough for now. I’ll leave the list now for others to add more. _**- Og Trans Fat Global Village Idiot**_ ---
**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/22 "2010-03-04T16:40:07Z")
> [@GreatStuffMan](#): > > Am I the only one thinking this is funny as hell? No. 😃 Also, I love the name “Atheist Agenda” > [@](#): > > Regardless of whether this was the most **tactile** event ever organized in the name of spreading Atheism […] They’re not giving out hand jobs, just porn. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/23 "2010-03-04T16:41:07Z")
I think it’s funny, and while it obviously isn’t likely to deconvert anybody, I don’t think it’s intended to. What is does do is inject some irreverence into the public square and paint a moustache on a sacred cow. I think a stunt like this serves to demystify religion and take the fear out of challenging its assumptions. The Bible is not a magic book with superpowers. This is a stunt which takes the piss out of it in a public way, and may serve to let people know they don’t have to be afraid of questioning it. It also doesn’t hurt anybody. It’s completely non-violent and not even really confrontational. What’s to be embarrassed about? ---
**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/24 "2010-03-04T16:43:31Z")
> [@ragerdude](#): > > I as a Christian was impressed by their bravery. However, I’m not sure that their tactics will convert many Christians. What do you think? I think that it isn’t newsworthy. No one converted anyone, it was a publicity stunt on a college campus. They’re a dime a dozen and this one was far more tame than some of the stunts the GLBTA (gay et al) group at my college pulled. I found **Snarky\_Kong** ’s comparison to a gay pride parade particularly apt. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/25 "2010-03-04T16:45:34Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Amusing my ass. Bunch of ill mannered snot nosed little punks. They’ve accomplished nothing but bringing shame on themselves and embarrassing the rest of us. In what way are they bringing shame, and for whom do you speak when you say “the rest of us”? ---
**Author:** ![ragerdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@ragerdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ragerdude)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/26 "2010-03-04T16:59:29Z")
> [@Lestrade](#): > > I think that it isn’t newsworthy. No one converted anyone, it was a publicity stunt on a college campus. They’re a dime a dozen and this one was far more tame than some of the stunts the GLBTA (gay et al) group at my college pulled. I found **Snarky\_Kong** ’s comparison to a gay pride parade particularly apt. Can you tell me some of the stunts that the GLBTA group pulled? I’m very curious. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/27 "2010-03-04T17:02:06Z")
I love that they gave a girl a [yaoi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi) manga. In Texas! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/28 "2010-03-04T17:05:36Z")
> [@Phatlewt](#): > > Why do people so often assume that atheists are interested in converting anyone? 😕 Um, because they meet atheists like that? Haven’t you ever come across one of those “evangelical atheists” who are constantly proclaiming categorically that religion is superstitious nonsense and we’d all be better off if nobody believed it? We’ve got a few of them on these very boards. I imagine “evangelical atheists” would think of it as “deprogramming” rather than “converting”, and they may not be as interested in convincing particular individuals to change their minds, but they certainly make no bones about declaring that everybody else ought to have the same views on religion as they do. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/29 "2010-03-04T17:22:46Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 Um, because they meet atheists like that? Haven’t you ever come across one of those “evangelical atheists” who are constantly proclaiming categorically that religion is superstitious nonsense and we’d all be better off if nobody believed it? We’ve got a few of them on these very boards. That doesn’t mean they’re trying to convert you. No really. Most atheists are intelligent enough to realize that they aren’t going to ‘convert’ anyone. A lot of atheists go through a militant phase even if only briefly. It varies depending on age, geographic location and how much (they feel) religion has been pushed on or toward them. After a while it gets frustrating. You lash out because there’s only so many times you can smile politely and say ‘I’m an atheist,’ and then be told you’re wrong/evil/stupid/going to hell without responding. Now most will say ‘just ignore it and they’ll eventually leave you alone.’ I think we’re all aware that’s not always accurate. The primary thought is ‘why should I sit here and be lectured and insulted and say nothing while they get to say whatever they want?’ The implication is that religious people should have the right to say whatever they like whenever they like and atheists should just shut up and listen. It strikes one as rude and entitled. As a result, frustration builds and a lot of otherwise reasonable people get bored with being reasonable and polite and stop doing both. None of this is to excuse that behavior, but I do hope it helps explain it. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/30 "2010-03-04T17:28:00Z")
> [@Phatlewt](#): > > Why do people so often assume that atheists are interested in converting anyone? > [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 Um, because they meet atheists like that? Haven’t you ever come across one of those “evangelical atheists” who are constantly proclaiming categorically that religion is superstitious nonsense and we’d all be better off if nobody believed it? We’ve got a few of them on these very boards. > > I imagine “evangelical atheists” would think of it as “deprogramming” rather than “converting”, and they may not be as interested in convincing particular individuals to change their minds, but they certainly make no bones about declaring that everybody else ought to have the same views on religion as they do. No kidding - I’ve can’t recall seeing religious people witness to near the extent that some atheists do on these boards. Now that’s not to say that we don’t have “believers” whose views are extreme and that they are shy about expressing that view, but one or two of our “non-believer” members are downright militant. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/31 "2010-03-04T17:36:56Z")
Has anyone ever changed anyone else’s mind about religion on the internet? Why would anyone expect to begin doing so at this date? I tell you, it’s not an attempt to convert. And we’re not talking about ‘on this board,’ anyway. We’re talking about a bunch of college kids on campus. They were having fun and being exhibitionists. No religious person was forced to talk with them or listen to them. It’s the same as closing the door in the face of a Jehovah’s Witness. You’re not required to listen. ---
**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/32 "2010-03-04T17:37:13Z")
> [@ragerdude](#): > > Can you tell me some of the stunts that the GLBTA group pulled? I’m very curious. How about the time they spent a night writing “enlightening” messages in chalk all over campus? Nice, thought provoking messages like, “Your mom’s a dyke.” The idea was to provoke discussion and bring about acceptance by suggesting that you and those close to you might be secretly gay. Since that might be the case, you should re-think your attitude toward gay people in general. There was an impressive variety of messages and they really were all over campus, the most offensive were cleverly placed in high traffic areas shielded from rain. I’m a bit surprised at how bitter I still am about this. It was a long time ago, but on the other hand I wanted to be a member of the group and was driven off by the personalities of the leaders. On the gripping hand, though, my mother was gay and a lot of fingers were pointed in my direction for a long time. I had never made a secret of it because I hadn’t seen any reason to be ashamed. They gave me one. Back to your question, most of their stunts were of that sort; flyers, chalk and so forth. Their “public” face (club fairs and such) was always polite, inclusive and staffed by attractive students. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/33 "2010-03-04T17:37:16Z")
Silly college tricks like the AA bake sales, the people pretending to be dead bodies in front of the CIA recruiting table, the Gay and Lesbian group doing a “kiss in” at a Frat party, the fake kidnappings at lunch to highlight El Salvadoran militias, or some other random thing people do in college. If I was still in my college days, I would be torn between being a little offended and doing some trading. There were these guys that would give out pocket New Testaments at the doors of the recruiting station and the Naval Hospital in Oakland, so I had a stack of them (could never bring myself to throw away a Bible). I might have gone shopping with a stack of freebies to see what I could get. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/34 "2010-03-04T17:39:39Z")
I hope they recycled the religious works they collected - you wouldn’t want one of those getting into the hands of children. I find it hilarious, and I doubt the persons doing it intended it any other way. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/35 "2010-03-04T17:43:57Z")
if they REALLY wanted to mess with people, they should only give out Bible Porn. By that I mean take the most sexual parts of the Bible, get some models, and publish it. It would be an illustrated Bible of the good parts, along with scripture readings. Now THAT would make an interesting point to the masses. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/36 "2010-03-04T17:47:31Z")
I’m not an atheist, but if I were I’d probably feel as much ashamed of being associated with them as, by being Christian, I’m inherently associated with so many zealous and obnoxious evangelicals. In the same way that so many Christians get a bad image because of those of those evangelicals, these are the sorts of behaviors that leave a bad taste in the mouth of religious people. I have to wonder what their intentions are. Clearly, they’re not going to convert anyone doing this. At best, they’ll encourage some people to find a random old bible lying around or steal one from their roommate. Either way, I think it was a poor idea, and I’m just as against it when I see religious groups engaging in similar activity. ---
**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/37 "2010-03-04T17:49:11Z")
> [@Algher](#): > > Silly college tricks like the AA bake sales… Alcoholics Anonymous? What’s the gag? > [@Algher](#): > > if they REALLY wanted to mess with people, they should only give out Bible Porn. By that I mean take the most sexual parts of the Bible, get some models, and publish it. It would be an illustrated Bible of the good parts, along with scripture readings. Rule 34? ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/38 "2010-03-04T17:53:19Z")
> [@Lestrade](#): > > Alcoholics Anonymous? What’s the gag? > > Rule 34? Affirmative Action (someone else already mentioned it). Conservative groups will hold a bake sale with different prices based on race and gender. $1 - white male 75 cents - white female 50 cents - black males etc. YOU invoked rule 34, not me. Nope. Didn’t do it. And I can’t search for that at work anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/39 "2010-03-04T18:33:23Z")
[Bible slash fic.](http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Bible_slash) ---
**Author:** ![Lestrade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Lestrade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lestrade)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251/40 "2010-03-04T18:37:16Z")
> [@Algher](#): > > Affirmative Action (someone else already mentioned it). Right :smack: in one ear out the other. > [@Algher](#): > > YOU invoked rule 34, not me. Nope. Didn’t do it. And I can’t search for that at work anyways. Oh no, like Godwin’s law, rule 34 is an observation, not a claim. I’m under no onus to provide examples. Actually, I did look and couldn’t find a damn thing. The closest was nun costume fetishists, not quite the same thing. Can anyone do any better? edit: **Kimstu** , you rock. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trade-your-bibles-for-porn-smut-for-smut-event/531251.md?page=3)