# Trademarks in song lyrics

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [June 17, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861 "2011-06-17T17:04:04Z")
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#### Post date: [June 18, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/21 "2011-06-18T17:53:28Z")

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“Rum and Coca Cola” by the Andrews Sisters.

“[She Don’t Use Jelly](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9_lBvKMlTI)” by the Flaming Lips mentions Vaseline.

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#### Post date: [June 19, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/22 "2011-06-19T00:55:34Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> So, under what conditions would it be an infringement?

Infringement occurs when:

1. A use in commerce (the use of a term as an indicator of the origin of goods or services)
2. Creates a likelihood of confusion among consumers
3. As to the origin, sponsorship, affiliation, etc.
4. With regard to a term in which a senior user has valid trademark interest

The use of a brand name in a song lyric is not a use in commerce (it doesn’t indicate the origin of any goods or services) so it doesn’t satisfy the first requirement. The Kinks weren’t using the term “Coca-Cola”'as the brand name of any goods or services it was offering to consumers.

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#### Post date: [June 19, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/23 "2011-06-19T03:13:26Z")

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Well, not lyrics, but at least two bands have been forced to change their names due to copyright concerns: The Comsat Angels (officially known as The C S Angels in the USA), and Green Jello (now Green Jelly, but with an umlaut over the Y so it’s still pronounced the same way).

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#### Post date: [June 19, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/24 "2011-06-19T03:26:25Z")

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_Mercedes Boy_ by Pebbles (a kind of cereal) 😃

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#### Post date: [June 19, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/25 "2011-06-19T08:05:44Z")

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[Aqua - Barbie Girl](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A). Mattel even sued about it back then because the lyrics weren’t positive about their product.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/26 "2011-06-21T02:04:01Z")

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Bump:

And so what’s the latest BBC policy regarding product placement? As many have pointed out there are a plethora of car songs out there, and have been for a couple of generations now.

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/27 "2011-06-21T04:51:09Z")

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Cole Porter’s \*You’re the Top \*mentions:

Bendel bonnet (famous hat store)  
Mickey Mouse  
Napoleon brandy  
Arrow collar  
Ovaltine  
Roxy usher (Radio City Music Hall)

And several other possibilities

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/28 "2011-06-21T09:35:14Z")

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> [@cjepson](#):
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> Not to mention Brillo…
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> I thought of another one: Warren Zevon’s _Carmelita_. “I pawned my Smith Corona and I went to meet my man/He hangs out on Alvarado Street by the Pioneer Chicken stand.”

I didn’t think I could play until mention of Warren Zevon sparked my memory:

From “Poor, Poor Pitiful Me”: “She really worked me over good, sort of like a Waring blender…”  
mmm

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#### Post date: [June 21, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trademarks-in-song-lyrics/585861/29 "2011-06-21T12:34:47Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Bump:
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> And so what’s the latest BBC policy regarding product placement? As many have pointed out there are a plethora of car songs out there, and have been for a couple of generations now.

They no longer ban songs or TV shows that mention a product by name.

However, program makers at the BBC are strictly forbidden to accept any kind of payment for mentioning a particular product.

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