# Trading Spaces 4/5, or, the One Ivylass Hasn't Watched Yet
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 6, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863 "2003-04-06T13:51:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 9
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2003, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/41 "2003-04-09T13:09:24Z")
Stopped hell! She must be _encouraged_ to do a Willie Wonka room! Stop someone on TV from getting a Willie Wonka room? Deprive ourselves of the sheer joy and terror that would result? Are you mad?!?
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### Author:  [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/42 "2003-04-09T15:27:05Z")
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> \*Originally posted by slice \*
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> Oh, but it doesn’t end there, dear dopers. From page 134: “ **Somebody’s going to have a Willy Wonka room, " says Kia, "and I’m going to dress like an Oompa Loompa.** ” \*\*
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There aren’t enough :eek: s for that one!!
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### Author:  [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/43 "2003-04-09T15:47:18Z")
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> For the record, Dez had some nice rooms but she quit (was not fired) because Trading Spaces was cutting into her lucrative lamp career. [http://www.mkates.com/dezryanstudl.html](http://www.mkates.com/dezryanstudl.html)
I disagree on both counts. Dez had consistently some of the worst rooms and unhappy HO’s. **All** she seemed to focus on was the lamps, many of which were merely ok. She was the original one-trick pony. When she “left” TS was pretty popular, and a great career developer. Doug, Hildy and Vern probably have businesses which are much more involved then making cheesy lamps, and still stay. I wonder why? What did you expect her to say-- “I sucked and they canned me.” Of course she has a cover story, but come on, nobody really believes she needed more time for lamps do they?
Just like Alex (who left to “pursue other projects” aka unemployment for nearly a year) Dez seemed to have been quickly dumped by the producers.
You would think Kia would be sent off “to do other projects or focus on her business” excuse land, but alas no matter how bad she is, I think the producers feel they have to stick with her. And she does suck.
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### Author:  [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2003, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/44 "2003-04-09T15:48:26Z")
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> \*Originally posted by slice \*
> \*\*Take this gem (also from the book): “Kia makes a beeline to the crafts store for supplies. She’s trying to explain to the sales gal what she wants. Kia: ‘You knose those things that are wood and cylindrical and hollow; they have a hole in them so you can string things through them?’ Sales gal: ‘You mean beads?’”
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ROFL!!! I also liked on this episode when Kia said “mirrah” like she did 100 times on the “AOL mirror” episode and Ty just gave her a “cut the crap” look and said “MIRR **OR**.”
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### Author:  [@Stephi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephi)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/45 "2003-04-09T15:56:55Z")
God, do I ever **hate** Kia. With a passion! I personally don’t believe she’s a real designer. I’d bet dollars to donuts six months ago she was some crazy homeless person pushing a shopping cart filled with her gaudy tacky crap. They dragged her off the street because they needed a designer quick!
I remember I liked, what was his name? Steven maybe? He’s only been on maybe two or three times. Why can’t they get him to take Kia’s place? He had some nice elegant rooms.
And by the way, Vern is a god. A walking, talking, designing god. Vern, if you’re out there, give me a call! I’m blonde. And I’m petite! I’m only five feet tall! You’d tower over me! I’d be perfect for you! Come on! Call me baby!
😃
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### Author:  [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/46 "2003-04-09T16:17:10Z")
According to the TWoP site, there’s good news and bad news about Kia.
She signed on to do eight episodes, and this was the 8th one.
She’s been signed to another season. Why her and not Edward?
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### Author:  [@Stephi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephi)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/47 "2003-04-09T16:32:01Z")
Ah, his name is Edward, I checked on the TLC site. 🙂
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### Author:  [@slice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slice)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/48 "2003-04-10T03:58:27Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Stephi \*
> I’d bet dollars to donuts six months ago she was some crazy homeless person pushing a shopping cart filled with her gaudy tacky crap.
Close, **Stephi**. Her father used to take her dumpster diving (I am not making this up) and the whole family would dress up in theme outfits.
Surprisingly and disturbingly, she’s done props and sets for Signs, The Sixth Sense, 12 Monkeys, Unbreakable and Beloved. She’s also had her own Philadelpha-based design firm for nine years. Un-be-lieveable.
And finally, another disturbing revelation from the book: “Kia’s not concerned whether viewers like her designs, as long as they’re entertained. She wants them to wonder ‘What in the world is Kia going to do next week?’”
Fine. Mission accomplished. Now go home.
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### Author:  [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)
#### Post date: [April 10, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trading-spaces-4-5-or-the-one-ivylass-hasnt-watched-yet/166863/49 "2003-04-10T06:11:03Z")
Some people on [TWoP](http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com) did a little research and found that Kia was only a prop assistant (or something like that) on most of the films she lists as credits, meaning that her duties were limited to “Go straighten that vase.”
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