# Traffic Stop Nightmare.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 6, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271 "2013-11-06T20:39:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/21 "2013-11-07T00:27:27Z")

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I’ll admit to being a little puzzled as to why there is no criminal investigation based on the allegations at issue.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/22 "2013-11-07T00:54:59Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Good thing it wasn’t Old Mexico, then they’d really get nasty.

I am reminded of an ancient Comedy Central piece where a guy in a prison in some unnamed but clearly south of the US country is forced to swallow candies and small toys whole, until he’s just huge & bloated. Then they hang him from the ceiling and a little girl in a party dress & blindfold is walked in carrying a piñata-smacking stick…

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/23 "2013-11-07T01:04:41Z")

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Some more information at USNews.  
[http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/05/man-seeks-millions-after-nm-police-force-colonoscopy-in-drug-search](http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/05/man-seeks-millions-after-nm-police-force-colonoscopy-in-drug-search)

The man was 63. I wonder if the doctors even checked for medical issues like polyps? Or were they just doing a drug search?

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> It’s unclear why the colonoscopy was necessary after enemas and x-rays did not reveal hidden drugs. Eckert was sent a $6,000 bill for the medical procedures he involuntarily underwent, his lawyer says.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/24 "2013-11-07T01:12:52Z")

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I have to ask. What color is he?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/25 "2013-11-07T01:25:33Z")

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USNews describes him as a white 63 year old. Like Tom Petty. I guess he has long hair.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/26 "2013-11-07T01:25:53Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> I have to ask. What color is he?

White

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/27 "2013-11-07T14:03:52Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> What possible justification is there for repeated enemas? When has a colonoscopy every been ordered to search for drugs?

From the point of view of the hospital the only thing that I can guess is that they somehow also became convinced there were drugs and that his life was in danger. Thats the only thing that could possibly make sense. But how they went that far…I have no idea how they justified it to themselves.

> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> This story is very disturbing just on the surface, but note that the incident happened more than 10 months ago and it is just now making the national news.
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> 10 months. That is astounding to me. I wonder if there were any efforts made to pay the victim off. If this were a TV or movie, then the victim wouldn’t have lasted for ten months.
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> Normally these kinds of stories bother me, but this one is beyond the pale.  
> If this happened to one person, I am pretty doggone sure it has happened to others.
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> Is this kind of abuse actually increasing in probability, or is it an artifact of ubiquitous news coverage? If the latter, I would have expected a swifter reporting of this crime (and a crime it is most certainly, if the facts are as they are presented).
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> Gosh, I do hope this man gets true justice.

How is that astounding? The only way it would make the news would be if Eckert went to the press with it at the time. I don’t see anything to indicate he did. The second article specifically says he wants to protect his privacy. Seems like instead he went to a lawyer and now its coming out because the lawsuit was filed in federal court. It takes time to gather up everything you need for a lawsuit.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/28 "2013-11-07T14:05:38Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> I have to ask. What color is he?

If you read the article linked just above your post the lawyer is alleging that the Hispanic cops are prejudiced against him because he is white.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/29 "2013-11-07T14:49:03Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Good thing it wasn’t Old Mexico, then they’d really get nasty.

No kidding. Heads wouldn’t just roll, they’d ride on the back of a booby-trapped tortoise.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/30 "2013-11-07T19:34:55Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> The first doctor is willing to testify on behalf of the defense.

Do you mean he’s willing to testify for the plaintiff (the man who filed the lawsuit)? Or is he going to testify for the defendant (cops, hospital, etc.).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/31 "2013-11-07T23:06:03Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> Do you mean he’s willing to testify for the plaintiff (the man who filed the lawsuit)? Or is he going to testify for the defendant (cops, hospital, etc.).

It sounds to me that the first doctor is the one at the first hospital, who told the cops that the search was unethical; and that this doctor would testify against the cops.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/32 "2013-11-08T15:13:21Z")

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> [@Doug\_K](#):
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> . . .booby-trapped tortoise.

Band name!

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/traffic-stop-nightmare/673271/33 "2013-11-09T07:03:52Z")

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As noted in the nearby Pit thread at [Post #137](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16832567#post16832567), these kind of searches, on flimsy pretexts, seem to be getting commonplace.

Article I saw on-line yesterday: [Police turn routine traffic stops into cavity searches](http://news.yahoo.com/police-turn-routine-traffic-stops-into-cavity-searches-201433510.html). (Still on-line as of today, 11/8/2013).

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