# Trailer for new Robocop

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 6, 2013, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164 "2013-09-06T10:36:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/41 "2013-09-07T19:43:02Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Having said that, the idea that a remake of _Robocop_ is needed baffles me.

I’ll concede that the Claymation special effects haven’t really aged well.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/42 "2013-09-07T20:50:39Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> That’s… not what “Robocop” was satirizing.
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> I’m not particularly invested in the series - hell, I only actually watched the movie the whole way through for the first time last year - but it’s pretty obviously satirizing the corporate culture of the 80s.

Why can’t it be both? Especially in light of Verhoven’s other movies (Total Recall, Starship Troopers, even Hollow Man to an extent). And even then, “Businessmen suck!” is not exactly an unsafe target of satire. Even in the excessive 80s.

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**Author:** ![Stealth\_Bragg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4bbf92/32.png) [@Stealth\_Bragg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Bragg)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/43 "2013-09-09T08:43:29Z")

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> [@Daddypants](#):
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> I still love Weller’s makeup in the original. Specifically the way the skin in front of his ears overlapped the cybernetics on the back and side of his head just a little bit. Fantastic little detail.

Thanks to the amazing make-up effects master Rob Bottin.

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**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/44 "2013-09-09T13:24:55Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> RoboCop is a _classic_? Don’t get me wrong, the movie is fantastic, but calling it a classic is a stretch. Hell, calling it a satire is a stretch…
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> “I know, let’s satirize ultra-violent movies by making the ultra-violentest mainstream movie ever!” Verhoven has made some decent movies, but if RoboCop had been filmed exactly the same way by Renny “I Was Michael Bay Before Michael Bay Was Michael Bay” Harlin, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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> That said, the greatness of the first movie is definitely down to its great ensemble and as much as I love Sam Jackson and tolerate Michael Keaton, I’m not sure they’re up to it. Miguel Ferrer is such a perfect weasel that I don’t think you could ever recreate that.

The only weasel to rival Ferrer was Paul Reiser (Aliens), another anti-corporate 80s over-the-top gore-fest. Neither movie was great, but both established a firm footing in their reality Sci-Fi sub-genre. Why do they have to constantly re-make the 80s? I guess our new generation of young moviegoers like the story but don’t want to see actors from nearly thirty years ago portraying the roles.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/45 "2013-09-09T14:40:22Z")

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> [@SirGalahad](#):
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> Why do they have to constantly re-make the 80s?

Because Hollywood is wary of or openly hostile to original ideas that are unproven and risky.

These bean counters know remakes, however unnecessary, vapid, or unoriginal, will make money. That’s all that matters to them.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/46 "2013-09-09T14:43:31Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> These bean counters know remakes, however unnecessary, vapid, or unoriginal, will make money. That’s all that matters to them.

Except, time and again, that has proven untrue. SOME remakes/reboots make money and some do not. It may be the conventional wisdom, but it’s not the correct answer to that question.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/47 "2013-09-09T15:40:44Z")

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I wonder. I’d like to see some hard data on this. My understanding is that the remakes have been more sure of making money than original stories overall, but admittedly I have no data to back this up at the moment, nor the opportunity to search for it right now.

In any case, if it’s not true that the bean counters are making money on remakes, they at least seem to think they are.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/48 "2013-09-09T16:02:04Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> I wonder. I’d like to see some hard data on this. My understanding is that the remakes have been more sure of making money than original stories overall, but admittedly I have no data to back this up at the moment, nor the opportunity to search for it right now.

If I’m bored later, I’ll see what I can come up with.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/49 "2013-09-09T16:12:25Z")

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> [@SirGalahad](#):
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> The only weasel to rival Ferrer was Paul Reiser (Aliens), another anti-corporate 80s over-the-top gore-fest.

Actually, there’s almost no gore at all in _Aliens_. I don’t think we see any blood at all, except for minor cuts on people’s faces or arms.

Well, human blood, of course. Plenty of alien and android blood, but that’s a bit different than filling the screen with the red stuff.

Also, I once heard Paul Reiser talk about taking his mom to see the premiere. When his character got eaten, his mom did a fist pump and went “Yes!”

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/50 "2013-09-09T17:26:57Z")

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Some one should say it - I WON’T buy that (a movie ticket) for a dollar!

I’m not opposed to remakes in general (The Maltese Falcon everyone knows was IIRC the third movie based on that story), but this one does not interest me.

Maybe if it comes to free TV I’ll watch it, or if it gets glowing reviews, but not otherwise.

Brian

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**Author:** ![johnspartan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@johnspartan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnspartan)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/51 "2013-09-10T17:11:12Z")

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Cracked has a piece today, 4 Reasons Why Remakes of Sci-Fi Movies Are Doomed to Suck

"[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-why-remakes-sci-fi-movies-are-doomed-to-suck/](http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-why-remakes-sci-fi-movies-are-doomed-to-suck/)

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**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/52 "2013-09-10T17:57:51Z")

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[design? What design?](http://s187.photobucket.com/user/edwardbayntun/media/forum/robocop-comparison.jpg.html)

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trailer-for-new-robocop/668164/53 "2013-09-22T05:29:19Z")

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> [@johnspartan](#):
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> Cracked has a piece today, 4 Reasons Why Remakes of Sci-Fi Movies Are Doomed to Suck
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> "[http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-why-remakes-sci-fi-movies-are-doomed-to-suck/](http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-reasons-why-remakes-sci-fi-movies-are-doomed-to-suck/)

They just added an article specifically about it, and unfortunately it looks like they’re right on all counts.

> **[5 Signs the New 'RoboCop' Movie Might Be Terrible](https://www.cracked.com/blog/5-signs-new-robocop-movie-might-be-terrible)**
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> A world where a human has to worry about 'RoboCop' has gone badly wrong.

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