Well, one would start with, is it on a standard gauge rail.
Second, it has to be demilitarized and of course off loaded. This train, while people are assuming its a treasure train, and I am one of them, it could also be loaded with weapons and munitions for guerilla warfare. It never actually occured , but there was a plan for germans to go wolf. Had the soviets occupied the whole country, this may have come to pass.
Refurbing the train, I assume it would be no more difficult than other engines and rolling stock, thats been put back into use after being musuem pieces.
For bringing it on to a commerical track in Europe, I would hazard a guess that it would have to be updated with some current safety gear, and it ran on coal, so that might elicit some raised eyebrows . But hooking up a modern train to the assemblage and bringing it to Rotterdam or Hamburg , for overseas shipment would be easy enough.
Train people are different, if that train can run, it will run.
Declan
Here’s a current story that contains a lot of details. It makes it pretty clear that while the local government believes there is something to be found, they are relying on second-hand sources (including the GPR images) and are waiting on their own military to do investigation.
And trying to keep scores of idiot gold bugs from getting killed on the train tracks.
Note yet another gallery of semi-attached images in the story - tunnels that are simply in the same area, and some TRAINS, by gosh! Also pretty castles. Wow. All those pictures, it MUST be true!
Who is actually back tracking, the polish feds, or the municipal poles. But still asking the army for help, does not actually sound like ordering the army to secure the site. As well as, 99 percent certain there is a train, and a huge probability that the train is boobie trapped and those traps are still active after 50 years, if explosive.
Since this is sept, how long do they have to investigate, before winter sets in.
Can’t see that as making much difference. A relatively small entry point, with a shed or quonset built over it, and weather/temps become pretty irrelevant. I’d guess that if there IS a train, and it turns out to be going after, it will be a very slow process, probably years of UXO/archaeological effort.
Who is actually back tracking, the polish feds, or the municipal poles. But still asking the army for help, does not actually sound like ordering the army to secure the site. As well as, 99 percent certain there is a train, and a huge probability that the train is boobie trapped and those traps are still active after 50 years, if explosive.
Since this is sept, how long do they have to investigate, before winter sets in.
Declan
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Some might not want that train found, for reasons.
The only thing that that has separated this story from the speculative treasure-hunter brigade and/or “lunatic fringe” is the “99% chance” announcement by the Deputy Culture Minister. However, the mayor of Walbrzych and head of Lower Silesia region’s administration have both played down the claims.
There are some geo-radar images on the Twitter account linked to previously, but they look to me to be quite clearly fake. I would have hoped that when the Deputy Culture Minister made the “99% claim” that he was doing so with the support of some independent analysis, but I’m increasingly wondering whether he’s taken the treasure-hunters’ “evidence” at face value. If the geo-radar scans that led him to his conclusion are the very same as those linked to in the Twitter account then I believe he’s been misled.
And now the two “finders” have gone public, claiming (once again with no evidence besides that they’ve gotten the Polish military interested) that the train isn’t in a tunnel… it’s buried.
To their credit, they claim they want rights to dig it up and turn it into a tourist attraction.
Which of course will involve no investors, government support, or other outside money that could conceivably be… lost to history.
Next week: “It’s not a train, it’s a convoy. Or something.”
He is giving testimony based upon what he actually saw.
“He says” is NOT “hearsay.”:rolleyes: “Hearsay” is second hand testimony . it would be if the Poland’s National Heritage and Conservation Officer said “I heard from these guys that…” .
*He personally claims to have seen the picture. *Thus not hearsay. He personally witnessed that picture.
Really, it’s a legal term. Look it up. I even presented you with a definition.
He is giving testimony based on what he said he saw. Neither he nor anyone else has shown a credible third party, or the public, any of these images.
No one else has confirmed the existence of these photos, or GPR images, or anything at all - that’s the whole problem here. The entire whoop-ti-do is based on “He said that he said that he said…”
That’s hearsay, purely, simply and legally.
I think you’re lost in the tangle of media blather and bullshit that keeps giving credence to actions reported second hand, claims of images and photos no one has seen, and all the semi-attached pictures and videos the “news” stories keep dumping into the mix.
ETA: I understand that if he had seen the train, or unambiguous image/radar data showing a verifiable train-like entity, that his comments would not be hearsay. But he is reporting only what someone else has told him, with image data of unverified provenance. He is reporting what he was told, not anything of consequence that he actually has seen.
