Traits common to all human cultures?

Actually, I don’t think this is quite right, although it was commonly accepted. It seems that more recent research indicates that sexual dimorphism (difference in size between the sexes within a species) is more correlated with male-male competition in access to breeding females, but this should not be confused directly with monogamy.

It is well established that early humans split from chimpanzees. Later, another group of chimps, bonobos, split from chimpanzees as well. Bonobos share many characteristics with humans that chimpanzees don’t. For example, bonobos are the only primate species besides humans that tend to have sexual activity unrelated to procreation (for pleasure, perhaps, but at least for bonding and agression/tension reduction). Bonobos are also the only other primate to mate “face-to-face” (missionary position). Bonobos are closest to humans in sexual dimorphism among primates (where males are about 1.1 to 1.2 times the size of females). Also, like humans, bonobo females do not show obvious physical signs when they enter estrus, unlike chimpanzees, and tend to have a sex drive throughout their fertility cycle.

But bonobos are anything but monogamous. Their sexual practices encompass an enormous range, including oral sex and bisexuality. Their societies are predominately matriarchal, but pair bonding is not the norm. Unlike chimpanzees, bonobos are a very peaceful species, and appear to replace aggression in their societies with sexual activity.

And btw, this research tends to refute edwino’s (or Robert Wright’s) assertion that males avoid being cuckolded, at least within our “closest primate cousins”. The topic of “sperm selection” and relative testes size among primates offers support here, as well as the more recent “killer sperm” research. And interestingly, this seems to also relate to infanticide:

Later on this same page, and relevent to the topic of cuckoldery in humans:

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[ol][li]If when making love a woman has no orgasm, or has one more than a minute before the man ejaculates, then very little of his sperm remains in her vagina. [/li][li]If her orgasm was less than one minute before or up to 45 minutes later than his ejaculation, then most of his sperm stays in. [/li][li]In addition, the longer it was since she had previously had an orgasm, then the more sperm she retains. [/li][li]Finally, the amount the man ejaculated related to whether the couple had been together during the day or apart. If they had been together, the amount was less than if they had been apart.[/ol]All very interesting, but so what? Well, Baker and Bellis also asked the couples in their study about their extramarital affairs. In faithful women, about 55% of orgasms were high retention. In unfaithful women, 40% were, with their regular partner, but 70% were with their lover. In addition, the extramarital intercourse generally occurred at the woman’s most fertile period. The result is that a woman in their study could have intercourse twice as often with her partner as with her lover, but still be more likely to conceive a child by her lover. Even though the women did not have access to this information, these are the consequences of their actions.[/li][/quote]
Within primates, large sexual dimorphism tends to result in polygynous societies, but even in these cases, females are not necessarily pair bonded with dominant males.

In the animal kingdom generally, it was first thought that sexual dimorphism was directly correlated with monogamy/polygyny. A prime example was birds, which have very little sexual dimorphism, and many species were thought to be monogamous.

More recent studies using DNA fingerprinting have shown that birds may tend to be “socially monogamous”, but sexually polygynous in practice.

Suffice it to say, the topic is more complex than initially thought.

And pravnik, one may be safe when defining “marriage” so broadly, but I was under the impression that there were numerous human societies where “pair-bonded” marriage simply did not apply (in either monogamous or polygamous models), but where the “family unit” was more tribal in nature. This mating system is described as “promiscuous”. At least in one case, marriage and mating were not directly related. For example, the Nayar tribe of southern India:

Promiscuous socities are referenced in this link.

On the nature/nurture topic, didn’t Gould put forward that our biology puts forth our various potentials, but that our environment determines which potentials are realized? That theory tends to have significant explanatory power - in this mating system topic, for example, in that humans are genetically capable of many different mating systems, and the environment determines which system actualizes. Also, culture can subvert the expected actualization based strictly on an analysis of the more primitive environment constraints.

I don’t think this could be classified as a cultural universal - it seems more like a natural instinctual response.

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I don’t believe incest is taboo in every culture. For instance, in this recent Times feature on inbreeding, the claim is made that

In a society where nearly half the marital relationships are incestuous, I don’t think one could argue that incest is taboo. I’d have to do more research, but I’m certain there are other cultures where incestuous relationships are commonplace.

Last time the incest taboo came up I seem to remember someone citing that when the citation was investigated, there was a lot of cross-referencing claims but that there was no meat behind it. Anthropological Urban Legend?

I’ll see if I can find it.

It depends on how you define “related.” For example, in our own culture, marriage of first cousins is not done, while in others, it’s practically the norm. Likewise, in some cultures, your mother’s sister wouldn’t be considered your relative at all. The incest taboo merely states that that all cultures have rules regarding who one may acceptably marry and/or have sexual relations with based on culturally defined rules of relationship. Those rules are not necessarily strictly correlative with genetic relationship, and they aren’t the same from culture to culture.

I’m not giving marriage any special definition, just it’s generally accepted anthropological one: a sexual and economic union between men and women. The systems of marriage vary greatly from society to society, as do rates and acceptability of promiscuity in and out of marriage, but to my knowledge all societies have something approximating a system of marriage.

Incest is taboo in all cultures – but the definition of incest varies from culture to culture. In the modern-day United States, first-cousin marriages are looked upon by the majority of the population as incestuous. In the Middle East, that’s not the case. Some countries permit uncle/niece marriages; others do not. Even in ancient Egypt, some pairing were allowable, while others were not. What is considered incest is variable.

.:Nichol:.

I think it was Wilson who characterized the incest taboo as a sort of inate law that says: “Do not breed with members of the opposite sex with whom you played as a child”. A lot of this was supported by studies of Kibbutz children. The assertion was that even UNRELATED children raised in close quarters tended not to pair up as adolescents. I’m not sure if this has been debunked, but I do remember reading quite a bit about this over the years.

The Tasmanian Aborigines and almost all the Australian Aborigines had absolutely no currency. There was trade based on barter and real value, but no seashells or beads. The closest that developed in Australia was a type of written IOU promising payment of the goods (craftwork, wives etc) when they became available at a future date. I’m sure other societies were equally devoid of any kind of symbolic currency.

I could name several groups that practiced ritual cannibalism of the dead of immediate family members. We’re not talking huge feasts here, but ritually eating parts of the body. For example at least one New Guinean tribe virtually demanded that husband whos wife has been killed for adultery had to eat some internal organ as a type of reclamation of his fidelity so that he could remarry.

I’ve seen this said a few times in this thread WRT incest, murder and a few other behaviours. It’s taboo in all societies, but the definition changes. That seems less than satisfactory. I’m sure I could argue that homosexuality, interracial marriage or even monogamy are taboo in all societies as well, but that the definitions of those things change. If there are societies that permit brother-sister marriage (and there are), but they do so by declaring the brother and sister no longer related then the society doesn’t prohibit incest no matter whether they consider it incest or not.

IIRC they didn’t quite say that. They concluded that people favoured mates with whom they didn’t play as children. In other words the mechanism promoted outcrossing, but didn’t actually prevent incest. In theory if a man is given a choice between two identical women, and one of them is a childhood playmate, he will always choose the non-playmate. However if he is given a choice between a playmate with a long list of desirable features, and a non-playmate with less desirable features, he will choose the playmate.

In hunter-gatherer societies and early farming villages, completely unknown mates may have been rare and so any instinctive block against mating with anyone else would have been impossible. However when such mates did become available it made sense to pursue them to maximise diversity within the clan/village.

Thanks, AZ, for providing for detailed and accurate information. I’m just repeating stuff I read ten years ago. I’m a fan of the bonobos and I can’t believe I didn’t think of them. Maybe the article I read accounted for them somehow. I don’t remember.

But the sexual and economic unions do not always correspond. Isn’t that part of your definition?

Ghosts and spirits.

Speak for yoyrself, some of us might be couch potatoes! :smiley:

well… Duh!

sorry about that

Rampant stupidity.