# Tramp rants about the boy in her bed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 22, 2002, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431 "2002-06-22T13:23:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/61 "2002-06-24T16:36:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*IMO, that **SE** ’s hijack was so rude and inappropriate is an opportunity for the straight posters to fume and feel put-upon, which is **exactly** how we gay men feel. Think of it as walking in our shoes, if only for a bit. \*\* Allow me to politely cry “total bullshit.” Being on the receiving end of a rude comment is not a uniquely gay experience. In fact, there’s nothing particularly special about it at all. Returning the favor to an unrelated third party and justifying it by saying “now you know how it feels to be gay,” is both false and sanctimonious. ---
**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/62 "2002-06-24T16:49:08Z")
The guy goes to Atlantic City instead of makin’ with the lady? PURE BALTIC AVENUE! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/63 "2002-06-24T16:56:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Being on the receiving end of a rude comment is not a uniquely gay experience. In fact, there’s nothing particularly special about it at all. We’re not talking about rude comments in general, but a specific rude comment that gay man have been slapped with here many times. If it pisses off straight people when it is done to them, maybe they’ll stop and think twice about opening that can of worms ever again. > [@](#): > > Returning the favor to an unrelated third party and justifying it by saying “now you know how it feels to be gay,” is both false and sanctimonious. Well, I agree that it should not have been done in this thread because the OP had nothing to do with the relevant threads, and i said as much in both my previous posts. ---
**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/64 "2002-06-24T17:41:35Z")
_sigh_ So the should gay men be constantly reminded about practicing safe sex by straight people debate makes it into my humble heterosexual thread. I suppose there are worse things that could happen. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/65 "2002-06-24T17:55:52Z")
You got chocolate in my peanut butter! ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/66 "2002-06-24T17:57:18Z")
**Tramp** good going. Don’t worry about ‘how much time you wasted’ - look at it this way A) it wasn’t more time; B) you never married him C) ditto for having kids w/him D) co-signed a loan/lease or any other strong financial relationship. (re: hijack - may I politely point out that in **this** thread, the OP was a long term relationship, the ‘boy in the bed’ was sleeping there, seemingly alone, vs. in the other thread where it was a virtual stranger that the OP went home w/ - which is significant since those who cautioned about safe sex were pointing out the issue of ‘some one you don’t know at all’ so, even if she wasn’t ‘one of those participating’, it was a different situation. - yes, I know you can get STD’s from long term SO’s too, however, in 'tother thread, the OP **didn’t know him at all** , where this OP had **some** knowledge of who he was etc.). Back to the OP - Should you start thinking again about the ‘good times’ etc., print out a copy of this thread to read while he’s on the phone talking to you about how much you mean to him… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/67 "2002-06-24T18:21:21Z")
gobear: > [@](#): > > We’re not talking about rude comments in general, but a specific rude comment that gay man have been slapped with here many times. And what makes the net effect of this particular rude comment worse than any other rude comment? Are you honestly going to sit there and tell me that there is something special about being gay that makes it more annoying when other people stick their noses in your business and tell you what to do, than if you were straight? Do you honestly beleive that their is such a thing as gay sensibilities that straight people in general don’t undserstand? > [@](#): > > If it pisses off straight people when it is done to them, maybe they’ll stop and think twice about opening that can of worms ever again. Apparently it doesn’t work that way for gay people, why would you suppose it would work that way for straight people? You don’t know what it feels like to have 3rd degree burns covering both your hands, do you? I do. Does this give me license to pour boiling oil over somebody else’s hands. “Now you know how I feel.” I also once got hit in the head with a baseball bat. SHould I find a random person and give them a crack in the skull so they can understand my unique experience? No offense here meant at all, but I really don’t buy this whole gay angst thing at all, bor do I buy teen angst, girl angst, old angst or any other angst that you might have. Everybody thinks they’re special. But really, that comment is not any more annoying or condescending because gay people here it a lot. At least you don’t have old people walking up to you in public and pinching your kids’ cheeks and telling you that you shouldn’t be feeding them ice cream you took them out for, and then lecturing you about nutrition. I mean I could jump into the next gay flirt thread and start talking about diaper angst. So don’t talk to me about how bad it feels to get shit on. How about I wipe poop on your face while you’re sleeping (like my daughter did to me?) Maybe you should be educated on what that feels like. Trust me. Just because somebody had an annoying experience isn’t a good reason to inflict it on anybody else. Some things we don’t need to feel. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/68 "2002-06-24T18:44:40Z")
[quote] Are you honestly going to sit there and tell me that there is something special about being gay that makes it more annoying when other people stick their noses in your business and tell you what to do, than if you were straight? **Scylla** , I don’t think you’re getting the point. Nobody is saying that there is something special about gay people, just that we are tired of being warned about safer sex in any thread that touches, however tangentially, on gay sex. **SE** was making that point by showing how annoying it is to have that done. The point is this–treat us like you treat each other. If you don’t pester straight people about safer sex preaching, then don’t do it to us. Think about how annoyed Arab posters would be if somebody brought up suicide bombers in a discussion of Bedoiun customs, or how annoyed a black poster would be if inncer-city violence is mentioned in a thread concerning the history of the NAACP. Would they be claiming special Arab angst" or “black angst,” or would they be people wishing not to be singled out because of who they are? Treat us like you treat each other. If you don’t regard straight people as diseased pariahs, then don’t do it to gay folks. > [@](#): > > You don’t know what it feels like to have 3rd degree burns covering both your hands, do you? > > I do. > > Does this give me license to pour boiling oil over somebody else’s hands. “Now you know how I feel.” That, as well as the rest of your post, is a big non sequitur. We are discussing a specific issue that has been discussed previously on this board, which is a far cry from visiting random violence on people for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/69 "2002-06-24T18:53:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OrcaChow \* > **Why, why why, Tramp, if you were so all-fired pissed off that you were going to dump the guy, _why did you let him in and into your bed in the first place?_** 'Cause she’s a tramp? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/70 "2002-06-24T19:00:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*That, as well as the rest of your post, is a big non sequitur. We are discussing a specific issue that has been discussed previously on this board, which is a far cry from visiting random violence on people for no reason. \*\* And posting in a thread where neither sex nor, more importantly, casual sex has been mentioned isn’t a non sequitur? BS. If you guys were posting crap like this in the threads where sex or promiscuity was mentioned, it would make a point. Hijacking every pit thread that has any mention of ‘breeder’ relationships has no purpose other than to make the dynamic trio even more annoying. You had existence and a french kid? Lucky! I would have killed for a short pimply Canadian, had I not suddenly come into existence two seconds ago. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/71 "2002-06-24T19:13:20Z")
You came into existence two seconds ago? I don’t exist at all! Finally, **scott evil** didn’t mention sex in his thread until quite some time **after** the first person handed him his ass about safer sex, so let’s just drop that little canard right there. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/72 "2002-06-24T19:14:37Z")
> [@](#): > > If you guys were posting crap like this in the threads where sex or promiscuity was mentioned, it would make a point. Hijacking every pit thread that has any mention of ‘breeder’ relationships has no purpose other than to make the dynamic trio even more annoying. As I have already said 3 times so far (and counting…) I DON"T AGREE with **SE** ’s hijack of this thread for the precise reason that **Tramp** was not involved in the previous discussion, and shouldn’t be dragged into it now. I’m just saying that he had the right motivation, but the wrong target. And I’m not sure to whom you are referring as “the dynamic trio”–Warren is dead, and Andrew and Jonathan are in Mexico. BTW, you missed the perfect song cue in your previous post. Your reply should have been, “That’s why the lady is a **Tramp**!” ---
**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/73 "2002-06-24T19:38:40Z")
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh. Can’t you hijackers get your own threads? This is about ME, ME, ME! I NEED ATTENTION!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/74 "2002-06-24T19:59:07Z")
OK … **20** bucks says you take him back. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/75 "2002-06-24T20:07:57Z")
_{ahem}_ Singing: > [@](#): > > She gets too hungry when dinner is late > While he’s out gambling and messing with fate > He won’t get any if he’s who she hates > That’s why the lady is named **tramp** > > He likes the crap games with Atlantic views > She waits at home until quarter to two > Then posts her gripes here for Dopers to view > That’s why the lady is named **tramp** > > She wants his boxer briefs in her hand > But not her man > He’s dim, her whim! > Hate southern Jersey > It’s cold and it’s damp > That’s why the lady is named **tramp**! Don’t bother with people you hate, honey. Esprix ---
**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/76 "2002-06-24T20:58:00Z")
Thank you Esprix, that was quite amusing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2002, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/77 "2002-06-24T21:21:36Z")
(Apologies to **Fenris** , of course, the undisputed master of parodies, but I felt an…urge…) Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Omnivore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47774/32.png) [@Omnivore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omnivore)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/78 "2002-06-25T04:01:04Z")
If you take him back, expect more disappointments. ---
**Author:** ![sirjamesp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@sirjamesp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirjamesp)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/79 "2002-06-25T06:17:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Moto \* > Keep in mind, **sirjamesp** , that we’re dealing with American-sized distamces here. > > \ > > He was not seeing old mates while in town. He was seeing them in another state. This is a very big deal indeed. So let me get this straight… this is the equivalent of me telling a girl in England, “Hi babe, I’m flying over to see you; I’ll arrive Friday evening,” - then turning up rat-arsed on Saturday morning with the explanation that I’d just popped over to France for a beer? I wish we had a “my jaw has just hit the floor” smiley. ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431/80 "2002-06-25T06:39:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sirjamesp \* > \*\*So let me get this straight… this is the equivalent of me telling a girl in England, “Hi babe, I’m flying over to see you; I’ll arrive Friday evening,” - then turning up rat-arsed on Saturday morning with the explanation that I’d just popped over to France for a beer? > > I wish we had a “my jaw has just hit the floor” smiley. \*\* I don’t know european distances any more than you know american ones. **Tramp** doesn’t say where he was supposed to be coming from, but Atlantic City is 100 km from Philadelphia and Philadelphia is 230 km from Arlington VA, where she is, so he was essentially 330 km further away than he should have been. Pretty damn far, even here. Yeah, he sounds like a putz (:wally) and deserves more than a kick in the butt and a smack on the head. (:smack:) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tramp-rants-about-the-boy-in-her-bed/115431.md?page=5)