# Transformer 4. Anyone else sitting this one out? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 26, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720 "2014-06-26T19:39:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/1 "2014-06-26T19:39:22Z")
I was really hoping with a new cast they would get a new director to go along with it. Nope. As feared, from reading the reviews, it’s just more of the same Michael Bay dung heap. Just deeper. After wasting 2+ hours of my life with Transformers 3 which left me with a migraine I swore I’d never give Bay another dime. Oh, no doubt the movie will make it’s money back 10 fold just because it’s another transformers movie. But you’d think the studios might shoot for 20 fold with someone who’s not an embarassment to movie making. Maybe Bay works cheap and has figured out how to throw these things together waaay under budget. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/2 "2014-06-26T20:19:24Z")
Three times in a row, childhood nostalgia led me to rationalize, “Well, it will at least be worth it for the big screen _spectacle_ of it all.” Fool me three times, shame on me. Fool me four times, I oughta get my fucking head examined. Yeah, I’ll be sitting this one out. Maybe if I still did coke I could keep up with Bay’s dialog and editing, but those days are behind me. ---
**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/3 "2014-06-26T20:24:21Z")
After the second one, I refused to sit through any more. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/4 "2014-06-26T21:01:08Z")
I had SOME hope because I thought I read that they were going to streamline and “classic” style the robot modes so they didn’t look like shitty scrap metal heaps in the shape of robots… but nope! ---
**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/5 "2014-06-26T21:02:05Z")
I’m going to a private screening tonight because the company my daughter works for has some of their products in the show. Free show, free eats. Sounds good, huh? I just looked at Rotten Tomatoes and it only gets 16% positive score. Ugh, this is going to be a long 2 1/2 hours. ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/6 "2014-06-26T21:13:48Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I was really hoping with a new cast they would get a new director to go along with it. Nope. As feared, from reading the reviews, it’s just more of the same Michael Bay dung heap. Just deeper. You mean Mark Wahlberg’s presence does not save it for you? C’est incroyable! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/7 "2014-06-26T22:20:02Z")
[Transformers 4 is cinematic piss.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/67790) ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/8 "2014-06-26T22:20:29Z")
After two, I started catching them on Redbox for a buck. I’ll see this one then, or maybe on Amazon Prime… ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/9 "2014-06-26T22:23:41Z")
I think I want to see it. And I didn’t like the third movie. The first scene with the Dinobots, I’ll be wondering why they didn’t just put them in the first movie and made me wait. I’ll be the fanboy squealing with glee if/when I hear “Me Grimlock” It’s too bad they got rid of Shia LeBouf and put in Mark Wahlberg… wait, no it’s not. 16%, you say? Oooh, perhaps robotic T-Rexes cannot save the day. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/10 "2014-06-26T22:36:24Z")
I’ve skipped them all after watching the first one. I was a huge fan of The Transformers when I was a kid but the movies weren’t all that great. The movies were about people dealing with the transformers while the series was about the transformers themselves. Why bother? And I don’t mean to sound snobbish. I just didn’t find the first movie to be at all entertaining even from the standpoint of turning my brain off and just going with it. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/11 "2014-06-26T22:54:49Z")
I looked eagerly forward to the first one, but it was such a pile of shit that I haven’t bothered with the rest. Michael Bay is really, really awful. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/12 "2014-06-26T23:45:23Z")
Yes! I barely liked the first one (and it did not age well). The others were just complete and utter shit that they cause physical pain. I refuse to give Michael Bay my money for this one. ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/13 "2014-06-26T23:45:47Z")
I’ll see it the same way I saw all the other movies in the Transformers line: via NetFlix when I get around to it, with low expectations. Some of them have been a decent show… others just plain stupid. I only see about two movies a year in the theater, and Transformers 4 is certainly not going to be one of them. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/14 "2014-06-27T00:41:33Z")
> [@FordTaurusSHO94](#): > > After the second one, I refused to sit through any more. I loved the first one. I was bored by the second (seriously, how do you make giant robots fighting boring?) so I haven’t watched any other ones. ---
**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/15 "2014-06-27T01:00:53Z")
We might see it just to check out the scenes shot in our neighborhood last year. During shooting, the [Uptown Theater](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uptown_Theatre_(Chicago)) was converted to a vintage movie theater and, hilariously, the legendary [Green Mill](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Mill_Cocktail_Lounge) was converted to a Texas college bar. We saw Michael Bay right up close and we saw Marky Mark down the block. I’m hoping we can see some landmarks in the film. We’ll probably pick it up at the library a few months after release. ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/16 "2014-06-27T01:31:40Z")
The first one looked bad. The trailer and reviews confirmed its suckitude. I saw it on television and thought it was a rotten pile of garbage. Like _Push You Down_ said, the Transformers look like walking scrap heaps. The story was so bad you would get a better script by transcribing a bunch of five year olds playing with the toys and making that into a movie. I think Armageddon looks like a great movie, until you actually see it and hope that the asteroid wins. People should have learned after that not to see Michael Bay movies. But we are stuck with him. And they keep paying him truck loads of money to keep making films so he isn’t going to stop. There is no point wasting energy on being a hater. I haven’t seen anything to make me think the later Transformer movies would be any better then the first one so I skipped them. There is the Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles movie coming out. It’s handled by a few different people, it’s a different franchise, so I’m not going to condemn that without giving it a fair shot. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/17 "2014-06-27T02:34:58Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I’ve skipped them all after watching the first one. I was a huge fan of The Transformers when I was a kid but the movies weren’t all that great. The [animated](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_95) one was really good. > [@Tangent](#): > > I looked eagerly forward to the first one, but it was such a pile of shit that I haven’t bothered with the rest. Michael Bay is really, really awful. But I agree with this notion 100%. I’ve sat them all out after the first one. I’d rather watch [Beautician and the Beast](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118691/?ref_=nv_sr_1). ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/18 "2014-06-27T03:40:28Z")
Like a couple other people here, I stopped after the second one. No interest whatsoever in seeing this one. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/19 "2014-06-27T14:39:27Z")
> [@Aquadementia](#): > > I think Armageddon looks like a great movie, until you actually see it and hope that the asteroid wins. People should have learned after that not to see Michael Bay movies. Armageddon is a stone cold classic. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720/20 "2014-06-27T15:55:10Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > The [animated](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092106/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_95) one was really good. No it wasn’t. It was an absolutely terrible movie that Bay only managed to beat by being racially offensive in the second movie. Not that that’s a new thing for the franchise, but it’s one thing the 1986 movie lacked - it was the TV series that went in for that. All of the theatrical movies are written to the same level\* - the same dumb level as 1980s kids shows, the 20XX movies look worse at first glance because they’re pretending they’re not. > [@RikWriter](#): > > Like a couple other people here, I stopped after the second one. No interest whatsoever in seeing this one. I wished I’d stopped with the second - I forced myself to sit through half of Dark of the Moon, since I’d heard it was an improvement on Revenge of the Fallen…I suppose it improves on the racism, but adds homophobia (a whole new realm of offensiveness for the franchise!) and makes the humans _even more annoying_. (Nothing, NOTHING the humans did in the first two comes even close to Wang and Sam’s NOHOMO routine, or John Malkovitch trying to get Bumblebee to box with him. Though the military guys were OK, as far as I got into it, though.) - Well, I assume the new one hasn’t actually improved on that - I haven’t seen it, but reviews suggest it hasn’t. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transformer-4-anyone-else-sitting-this-one-out/691720.md?page=2)