# Treasure Hunters 7/10 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 10, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944 "2006-07-10T22:58:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/21 "2006-07-11T17:26:03Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] The host might not even be real (and he doesn’t even seem to have a name). He could be nothing more than a better-rendered version of Max Headroom. We never see him except on a Motorola Message screen, do we? Not even on an [Ask.com](http://Ask.com) page, or a Genworth Financial Services billboard. [/QUOTE] Well, he does have an [IMDB page](http://imdb.com/name/nm0533589/) … that doesn’t make him “real,” though. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/22 "2006-07-11T17:28:58Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > How many times must we watch people pick up something, say, “This could be important” and then go, “Nah, I’ll just leave it here”?? See, I’ve been finding myself thinking sort of the opposite. Look at all the junk that was strewn around that tunnel. How was Team Miss USA supposed to figure out, out of all the random crap littering the place, which piece of random crap was the important random crap? Now in this particular instance had they looked a little closer and seen that there were several identical random pieces of crap that might have been more of a tipoff, but still. Same sort of reaction I had to the sign leaning up against the wall at the school last time. I don’t know that I’d find that specific piece of grafitti to be of any more significance than the rest of the stuff written all over pretty much every surface. Or in the same leg, Josh Hanllyn figures out to turn off the classroom lights because they were sticking out of the chalkboard? It probably wouldn’t occur to me in a million years that the placement of a light switch meant anything. [QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] The host might not even be real (and he doesn’t even seem to have a name). [/QUOTE] In death, he’ll get his name back. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/23 "2006-07-11T17:38:27Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] See, I’ve been finding myself thinking sort of the opposite. Look at all the junk that was strewn around that tunnel. How was Team Miss USA supposed to figure out, out of all the random crap littering the place, which piece of random crap was the important random crap? Now in this particular instance had they looked a little closer and seen that there were several identical random pieces of crap that might have been more of a tipoff, but still. Same sort of reaction I had to the sign leaning up against the wall at the school last time. I don’t know that I’d find that specific piece of grafitti to be of any more significance than the rest of the stuff written all over pretty much every surface. Or in the same leg, Josh Hanllyn figures out to turn off the classroom lights because they were sticking out of the chalkboard? It probably wouldn’t occur to me in a million years that the placement of a light switch meant anything. [/QUOTE] Oh, I absolutely agree with you. There have been things I never would have thought of on this game, including the light switch (although ISTR that the Genworth clue was somewhat of a hint). But the fact that she had it _in her hand_, wondered if it was important, and then left it. If you’re wondering, then open the damn thing and see! On another note, does anyone else have that goddamned [**I]Follow the Drinking Gourd**\* song stuck in their head? Grrrr. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/24 "2006-07-11T17:41:35Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] See, I’ve been finding myself thinking sort of the opposite. Look at all the junk that was strewn around that tunnel. How was Team Miss USA supposed to figure out, out of all the random crap littering the place, which piece of random crap was the important random crap? [/QUOTE] And how were the following teams so certain they had the right random crap? ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/25 "2006-07-11T17:54:19Z")
See, my brain is so muddled with that song that I can’t even code right! (And, it would seem, I can’t get much work done…) ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/26 "2006-07-11T18:13:31Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] And how were the following teams so certain they had the right random crap? [/QUOTE] That’s my question. The Miss USAers weren’t sure, but every other team seemed so sure it was exactly what they were looking for. Maybe the first team to find it told the other teams via motorola (not via phone…) And as for the National Treasure glasses, maybe the clue could be a bit harder to find. Here’s a piece of paper and some glasses with which to read said paper. It’s almost like they are just giving them directions…kinda like another show… ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/27 "2006-07-11T18:14:49Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] And how were the following teams so certain they had the right random crap? [/QUOTE] A couple of the other teams found bundles at the same time, realized they were multiple identical items and opened them. Although how the Browns managed to figure that out bringing up the rear I don’t know. And speaking of the Browns, was it wrong of me to hope just a little that even though he was hurt Keith would go over the side of that rescue canoe? Y’know, just for consistency’s sake since one or the other of the Browns have almost drowned every time they’ve gotten on or even near water? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/28 "2006-07-11T18:17:28Z")
[QUOTE=FlightlessBird] And as for the National Treasure glasses, maybe the clue could be a bit harder to find. Here’s a piece of paper and some glasses with which to read said paper. It’s almost like they are just giving them directions…kinda like another show… [/QUOTE] Nitpick, the hidden message was on the Gadsden flag, not the paper. The paper was just the lyrics for “Follow the Drinking Gourd.” But what were the glasses contained in, is my question? They were snugged into a cutout space in somethng but none of the teams showed us what that something was. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/29 "2006-07-11T20:25:56Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] But what were the glasses contained in, is my question? They were snugged into a cutout space in somethng but none of the teams showed us what that something was. [/QUOTE] I think it was a book. But here’s my thing: why bother to hide infrared nightvision cheap plastic sunglasses in a book so you can read the hidden message on a flag _if the message was still visible even without them out in the car?_ What was the _point_ of wrecking up a perfectly good book like that? [Homer Simpson] Leaves of grass, my _ass_! [/Homer Simpson] ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/30 "2006-07-11T20:27:25Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Nitpick, the hidden message was on the Gadsden flag, not the paper. The paper was just the lyrics for “Follow the Drinking Gourd.” But what were the glasses contained in, is my question? They were snugged into a cutout space in somethng but none of the teams showed us what that something was. [/QUOTE] The cutout was in a book, which one of the Playmates mentioned that the package was heavy and hard like a book right before she through it down. What kind of ‘genius’ looks at “IX” and says, “What does that mean?” There must be some editors somewhere that had a blast putting this show together. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/31 "2006-07-11T20:28:59Z")
[QUOTE=UncleRojelio] through [/QUOTE] threw Sorry, long day. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/32 "2006-07-11T20:45:51Z")
I didn’t get what was such a big deal about leaving one person behind. The show seemed to be playing it like this would be a big betrayal–like the one left behind would lose out on the winnings. But most of the teams consist of people who know each other–at least three are in the same family!–so its hard for me to believe that, at least w.r.t. those teams, the “left behind” member wouldn’t get their cut. Even the teams that aren’t close outside the show, I would think, would work out some kind of agreement. Sure, it may be legally unenforceable, but I’d be suprised if the one left behind really got betrayed. This isn’t a show that pressures its contestants to be mean and nasty. -Kris ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/33 "2006-07-11T21:05:04Z")
**Frylock** , I would imagine that a big part of being a participant in a show like this is a desire to have an adventure, to travel to interesting places, to compete, to have fun. I mean, this show and TAR look like they would be a ton of fun. If you were on a team on an adventure like this, wouldn’t you be upset if your teammates decided to dump you? I’d be pretty pissed. If my teammates went on to win, well, then a share of the prize would certainly make me feel a bit better about it. But say they finish second. The prize, if any, for second place probably isn’t very big, and you’ve been robbed of the joy of the race. I think many people go on shows like this for the thrills as much as for the chance at the prize. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/34 "2006-07-11T21:19:32Z")
So they were jettisoning someone permanently from the team? I thought mother and daughter Fogal were being histronic bitches for no reason, but now their tears make some degree of sense. I don’t like Kayte at all. I always thought religious people make for strict parents, but you can tell they never heard of “spare the rod, spoil the child”. That girl would have been dead a million times over if she had grown up around my God-fearing parents. My mother would have grabbed her forehead and yelled, “Get thee behind me, Satan! I rebuke you!” I was rooting for the Browns, especially given the nature of the challenge, but I don’t see how it’s possible for them NOT to be last. They seemed incredibly lost, as well as clueless about how the task was supposed to work. I like them, but they don’t seem to have their heads on real good. I bet the graduate students are wishing that girly had twisted her ankle during this challenge rather than the other one. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2006, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/35 "2006-07-11T22:52:07Z")
[QUOTE=Tangent] **Frylock** , I would imagine that a big part of being a participant in a show like this is a desire to have an adventure, to travel to interesting places, to compete, to have fun. [/QUOTE] You know what we call Racers with this attitude around these parts? Losers. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/36 "2006-07-12T00:31:13Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] You know what we call Racers with this attitude around these parts? Losers. [/QUOTE] 😛 ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/37 "2006-07-12T01:43:52Z")
[QUOTE=monstro] I was rooting for the Browns, especially given the nature of the challenge, but I don’t see how it’s possible for them NOT to be last. They seemed incredibly lost, as well as clueless about how the task was supposed to work. I like them, but they don’t seem to have their heads on real good. [/QUOTE] I think Keith’s fitness has really hampered this team. They are obviously not stupid, the even in short physical tasks they fall behind so quickly. Honestly, I don’t really understand why they chose the Browns for this show. They had to know the family was going to be at such a disadvantage. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/38 "2006-07-12T02:06:03Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] I think Keith’s fitness has really hampered this team. They are obviously not stupid, the even in short physical tasks they fall behind so quickly. Honestly, I don’t really understand why they chose the Browns for this show. They had to know the family was going to be at such a disadvantage. [/QUOTE] Because the producers don’t really want a fair race. They just want a metric butt ton of people to watch the show. The Browns make for good TV. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/39 "2006-07-12T02:14:13Z")
[QUOTE=UncleRojelio] Because the producers don’t really want a fair race. They just want a metric butt ton of people to watch the show. The Browns make for good TV. [/QUOTE] I don’t see it. The mullet-heads made good, stupid, TV. The Fogals make good, evil, TV. The Browns were there as cannon-fodder, and they should have been gone already. But I don’t understand why they wanted cannon-fodder. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944/40 "2006-07-12T02:19:38Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] I don’t see it. The mullet-heads made good, stupid, TV. The Fogals make good, evil, TV. The Browns were there as cannon-fodder, and they should have been gone already. But I don’t understand why they wanted cannon-fodder. [/QUOTE] The fact that we are discussing them is the answer to your question. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-10/363944.md?page=3)