# Treasure Hunters 7/17 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 18, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951 "2006-07-18T01:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/1 "2006-07-18T01:07:48Z")
Six minutes in and I’m already wishing Kayte was dead. But no more than Kayte herself I guess. I hear she’s putting out a CD soon, “Kayte Fauxgal’s Greatest Fits.” ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/2 "2006-07-18T01:10:34Z")
Oh, my ears! Love her Dad’s statement, “Well, after 24 years, we’re pretty used to it…” Are the producers of this show so deep that they are trying to indictate that escaping slaves might have had to choose between being free but leaving a loved one, and potentially not making it to freedom? Too deep? Hey, it is hot here. My brain is loopy. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/3 "2006-07-18T01:30:28Z")
That _is_ deep. Six hour penalty for the Brown because of the injruy? The doesn’t seem fair somehow. If they’d actively abandoned Keith they’d only have had a three hour delay. Yet again I’d have been standing somewhere for days. I could’ve been staring into the mirrors forever without thinking of blowing on them. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/4 "2006-07-18T01:30:32Z")
_Dude_. Kayte Fogal seriously needs a nap, and a smiting. To paraphrase what Jase over on Big Brother said – that noise is _not from Jesus_. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/5 "2006-07-18T01:31:52Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Six hour penalty for the Brown because of the injruy? The doesn’t seem fair somehow. If they’d actively abandoned Keith they’d only have had a three hour delay. [/QUOTE] Nope – if they’d have actively abandoned Keith, they’d have had a 3-hour time _advantage_ (relative to the other teams). The penalty for coming back was 3 hours. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/6 "2006-07-18T01:57:31Z")
I was hoping that, after finding the mask, Mt Fauxgal would hit her in the back of the head with a shovel and use one of the convenient, ready-made shallow graves. No, of course I didn’t _really_ hope that. But I’ll bet it at least crossed his mind. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/7 "2006-07-18T02:00:07Z")
By the way, did anyone else take the time between the Fauxgal’s prayer and the mask-finding as proof that God goesn’t give a rat’s hiney about who finds a mask and who doesn’t? Nice juxtaposition of praying by the Fauxgals and the multiple f-bombs dropped by the Southies. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/8 "2006-07-18T02:04:54Z")
[QUOTE=lorene] No, of course I didn’t _really_ hope that. [/QUOTE] I did. Heh. > [@lorene](#): > > By the way, did anyone else take the time between the Fauxgal’s prayer and the mask-finding as proof that God goesn’t give a rat’s hiney about who finds a mask and who doesn’t? > > Nice juxtaposition of praying by the Fauxgals and the multiple f-bombs dropped by the Southies. Quoth God: “Nice try, Fogals, but if you really want your prayers answered? Become Catholic, and get a cute accent. Oh, and ditch the brat, why don’tcha?” ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/9 "2006-07-18T02:23:47Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] Nope – if they’d have actively abandoned Keith, they’d have had a 3-hour time _advantage_ (relative to the other teams). The penalty for coming back was 3 hours. [/QUOTE] A distinction without a difference. Had they gotten to the boat and kept Keith, they’d have been delayed three hours. By having no choice but to lose Keith to continue, they lost six hours. Losing a team member to an accident cost them double the time keeping him would have. And had they cut him intentionally they’d have picked up three hours. So really, we’re talking about a potential nine hour swing. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/10 "2006-07-18T02:27:24Z")
Oh, never mind. I said it backwards in my first post. Still seems very unfair, though. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/11 "2006-07-18T03:11:19Z")
My god. She’s the most annoying person in history. I’ll give you one guess as to which person I mean! I’m rooting for everyone but the harpy. And the geniuses actually did something smart. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/12 "2006-07-18T03:17:38Z")
Does anyone recognize the quote from the safe house quilt panel clue? “I believed that in America most all men loved freedom and would rather go to their grave free than live their life as a slave.” I googled it but got no results. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/13 "2006-07-18T04:55:00Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Six hour penalty for the Brown because of the injruy? The doesn’t seem fair somehow. If they’d actively abandoned Keith they’d only have had a three hour delay. [/QUOTE] Remember, they got to skip the entire swamp. When Keith pulled a Barbaro they hadn’t even found the first box yet, then they all went back to the plantation. If they’d kept on, they’d still have to find all the boxes, in order, take the boat ride, get to the safe house and search through the quilts for the last remaining clue. Instead they sat around for six hours. I think they came out ahead. I liked the mirror thing. Simple once you know the trick, but I have no idea if I’d have figured it out. Kayte Fogal must die. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/14 "2006-07-18T06:21:03Z")
I was starting to think no one else was still watching… Just want to say that I thought these last two episodes were GREAT. An interesting challenge, good use of history, multiple mental puzzles plus two really hard physical tasks. In truth, I thought the ‘Underground railroad’ challenge sequence made all the “Amazing Race” challenges from all seasons look trivial. I hope this show gets good enough ratings to get a second season. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/15 "2006-07-18T12:05:40Z")
“After 24 years, we’re used to it.” You’ve got to be kidding me. My kid throws a fit like that past age ten and it’s straight into therapy, if not military school. Did it appear to anybody else that first she was complaining about one leg, and then the other? And my personal favorite moment was when one of the Southies said something to the effect of “Why are we waiting for them?” I don’t know if I’d have thought to blow on the mirrors. I noticed the “fREeDom” clue, but I probably wouldn’t have put on the glasses. I definitely would have headed for the red quilts, though. (And as soon as I saw something that said “Charleston,” I would have called my mommy and asked her to bring me clean clothes. :D) I was kinda rooting for the Browns. That six hour time penalty was crap. Seemed to me like way too much time, but then, I don’t know how long it took a team, on average, to get through the swamp. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/16 "2006-07-18T12:12:56Z")
[QUOTE=Draelin] “After 24 years, we’re used to it.” You’ve got to be kidding me. My kid throws a fit like that past age ten and it’s straight into therapy, if not military school. [/QUOTE] Yup. And I know _one_ thing: If she were teaching my kids, they’d be going to a new school in the fall. There is something _seriously_ wrong when your elementary schoolchildren are more mature than their teacher. She’s totally Colin: “My thumb is _broken_! This is _bullshit_! I _hate_ you!” ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/17 "2006-07-18T13:10:43Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] She’s totally Colin: “My thumb is _broken_! This is _bullshit_! I _hate_ you!” [/QUOTE] Coffee out the nose. A wonderful way to start the day. Thanks. 😃 I’m glad the geniuses went back to get Sam. I have serious doubts about them to begin with, and I would have had to start a vendetta if they’d left Sam behind. Although, putting the glasses on was the first thing I’ve seen them do that even comes close to approaching genius level in anything. So … anybody know who the mask face is? [This](http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-1058) is who I assumed it was last night–but that might be because his was the only name I could dredge up from the recesses of my memory. I think just because the name “Oglethorpe” amuses me, and did back in high school, too. It appears, though, that he didn’t have much to do with the Revolution. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/18 "2006-07-18T14:33:28Z")
[QUOTE=Draelin] So … anybody know who the mask face is? [/QUOTE] Based on what I remember of the clue – that it was a non-native-born Revolutionary War hero, and something about American soil – and also based on the fact that Paris was pictured in the previews, I’ll bet it’s [Lafayette](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Lafayette). One of the only things I remember about early American history is that the Marquis had a bunch of dirt from Bunker Hill shipped back to France, so that he could be buried “in” American soil. _(I like European history much more than American history, for some reason – perhaps it is all the blood and plague and Communism. There is a soft spot in my heart for the Commies, even though they’re deranged crazy possibly venerally diseased wackadoos, for the most part.)_ Oh, and [last week](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=379098&highlight=treasure+hunters) I griped about why the Producers were bothering to hide the infrared nightvision cheap plastic sunglasses if they weren’t needed for that particular task … perhaps _this_ is why? When I saw “ **FREEDOM** ” written thusly on the door of the safe house, I had a _feeling_ it would amount to something. Although, to me, it suggested that they should examine the red squares on the quilts. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/19 "2006-07-18T14:43:00Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] Based on what I remember of the clue – that it was a non-native-born Revolutionary War hero, and something about American soil – and also based on the fact that Paris was pictured in the previews, I’ll bet it’s [Lafayette](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Lafayette). One of the only things I remember about early American history is that the Marquis had a bunch of dirt from Bunker Hill shipped back to France, so that he could be buried “in” American soil. [/quote] Oooh, didn’t think of the French connection (heh). I bet you’re right. > [@](#): > > Although, to me, it suggested that they should examine the red squares on the quilts. That’s exactly what I thought–and we weren’t wrong, the clues _were_ all hidden behind red squares. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951/20 "2006-07-18T15:14:00Z")
During the digging, was I the only one thinking “what’s your dirt doin’ in Boss Keen’s ditch?” I saw the whole show, but didn’t hear the last 20 minutes (long story); If anybody already made this joke, I like them. Did I miss any good histrionics from Kayte, while someone else was doing the actual work, of course? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treasure-hunters-7-17/364951.md?page=2)