# "Treat meat-eaters like smokers," says unimportant leftie **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 24, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396 "2015-09-24T13:15:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/41 "2015-09-25T21:14:11Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I know this is MPSIMS and all, but is an anti-meat campaign really that bad an idea? She’s not proposing banning meat or anything, just a campaign to make people aware of the health and environment risks. The same sort of campaign has drastically reduced smoking over the years (admittedly in conjunction with punitive taxation schemes) without the nanny state concerns of an outright ban. I’d support a campaign to make people more aware of the health and environment risks in order to decrease meat consumption, but the anti-smoking campaigns have had more of a goal to try to stop smoking altogether, and that’s what her campaign sounds like. She doesn’t sound like someone like Michelle Obama who is just trying to get people to eat healthier, or organizations that encourage Meatless Mondays to decrease meat consumption, she’s a vegan who sounds like she wants everyone to become vegan. I can understand why people are upset. Also an anti-meat campaign is just a bad idea because it would backfire like just the proposal has done. I would think that you might be able to encourage people to eat less meat with the right strategies, but if you sound like you are against eating any meat it will just make people hug their hamburgers and bacon tighter. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/42 "2015-09-25T21:14:59Z")
I could call myself a vegetarian; I just like some of my veggies pre-processed. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/43 "2015-09-25T22:18:57Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I’d support a campaign to make people more aware of the health and environment risks in order to decrease meat consumption, but the anti-smoking campaigns have had more of a goal to try to stop smoking altogether, and that’s what her campaign sounds like. She doesn’t sound like someone like Michelle Obama who is just trying to get people to eat healthier, or organizations that encourage Meatless Mondays to decrease meat consumption, she’s a vegan who sounds like she wants everyone to become vegan. I can understand why people are upset. Yes. How they tackled smoking was not just making people aware of the health risks, but through a sustained campaign of steadily making smoking more and more publicly unacceptable, and that’s what sounds like is going on here, at least in this woman’s mind. Of course, I’d rather deal with someone’s second-hand smoke than their second-hand meat, through no matter what orifice. :barf: ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/44 "2015-09-26T01:47:45Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > “Kissing a meat-eater is like licking a barbecue.” Having sex with a vegan is like humping a beet. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/45 "2015-09-28T13:14:41Z")
And thisold chestnut: “Vegetarian” is an old Native American word that means “poor hunter”. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/46 "2015-09-28T13:55:25Z")
One should also follow the money. I once went to listen to a vegetarian talk and low and behold, she worked for a vegetarian magazine and was trying to sell vegetarian cookbooks. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/47 "2015-09-28T14:17:45Z")
_Lo._ And what did you think she was going to talk about? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/48 "2015-09-28T14:18:10Z")
> [@WilyQuixote](#): > > It’s good to see Kerry McCarthy doing her bit to counter the popular perception of vegans as insufferable arseholes. OMG…the best username ever. Please forgive the hijack. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/49 "2015-09-28T14:31:16Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _Lo._ And what did you think she was going to talk about? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/50 "2015-09-28T18:44:28Z")
Non-smoking vegetarian here. Your smoking affects me. Your eating meat does not. Case Closed. ---
**Author:** ![Archeonomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@Archeonomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archeonomist)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/51 "2015-09-29T03:00:42Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Non-smoking vegetarian here. Your smoking affects me. Your eating meat does not. Case Closed. You’re a vegetarian? Cool! Which part of Vegetaria do you come from? ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/52 "2015-09-29T04:09:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _Lo._ And what did you think she was going to talk about? Oh, more of the usual about how “carnivores” destroy the environment and how all the worlds problems would be solved if everyone was vegetarian and how being a vegetarian made a person closer to nature and pure and their shit didnt stink and all that. But mostly they should subscribe to her magazine and buy her cookbook. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396/53 "2015-09-29T19:47:31Z")
Vegans, meat eaters or smokers. whichever. they’ll all need a lengthy pounding with a mallet to tenderize the meat. Also, I suspect that shredding and mixing together the meat of all three would be more palatable. Alternatly, vegans should be cooked an a smoker, meat eaters ahould be stir-fried, and vegans should be drenched in barbecue sause but otherwise served raw. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treat-meat-eaters-like-smokers-says-unimportant-leftie/732396.md?page=2)