# Treis, no means no.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 13, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556 "2013-04-13T01:07:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556/415 "2013-04-15T23:16:11Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> But it still _definitely_ meant no in that scenario. You get that, right? I mean, I assume you did, since you didn’t keep trying to fuck her that night

If you recall the genesis of this thread was MOL’s complaint that guys don’t listen. As she eloquently put it “Guys, Y U no listen?”. My argument was more or less that no doesn’t always mean no. Culminating in this post:

> [@treis](#):
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> So the reality is that no does not always mean absolutely no. It can mean, “yes, but I want you to be the instigator”. It can mean, “maybe, I want to fool around a bit and see how it goes first”. It can mean, “I want to fool around a bit but not have sex”.

In this case, her no meeant “Yes, but I don’t want **treis** to think I’m a slut”.

As I also have said:

> [@treis](#):
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> If you are trying something, a “no” definitively means stop.

It is unclear to me why there is confusion about my terminology.

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