# Treis, no means no. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556 "2013-04-13T01:07:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 426
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556/426 "2013-04-15T23:29:44Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I get that you’re not arguing you should have pressed on and had sex with that girl despite what she said, but I also have no idea what point you think you’re making. Refuting “no means no” with “not true, sometimes women do want to have sex even when they’re saying no” is somewhere between pointless and patronizing. Do you think no one is aware of the concept of being tempted by something even if you opt not to do it? Do you think society is somehow being harmed by a simplistic message of erring on the side of boundaries when it comes to “no means no”? What wrong do you think you’re righting, exactly? I am not a crusader out to right any wrong. There’s no motivation behind my post besides what motivates the rest of us to post here. I don’t know what’s unclear about my participation in the thread was. The essential point of the original thread was: “Guys, Y U no listen?” “Because some women don’t always mean no when they say no.” Cue about 15 pages of people calling me an asshole. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/treis-no-means-no/655556)._