# Trevor Noah is killing it

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 15, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835 "2020-05-15T04:34:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/21 "2020-05-15T22:24:06Z")

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> [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](#):
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> It is supposed to be very hard for beautiful women to be funny (at least that’s the conventional wisdom), but Desi Lydic is fantastic.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’m sorry, what?

Right, why are we treating this “conventional wisdom” as fact?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/22 "2020-05-15T23:59:18Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Right, why are we treating this “conventional wisdom” as fact?

No one stated it as fact.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/23 "2020-05-16T00:20:06Z")

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I think he’s doing a great job, but I don’t like the new extended format. My internal timer starts losing patience at about 22 minutes, regardless of what the comedy central app tells me is left.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/24 "2020-05-16T01:52:14Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Okay, thanks. I’ve never heard that before.

Doing a quick Google search yielded a lot of links about this very thing:

[https://www.google.com/search?q=women+can't+be+funny&oq=women+can't+be+funny&aqs=chrome..69i57.13815j0j7&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8](https://www.google.com/search?q=women+can%27t+be+funny&oq=women+can%27t+be+funny&aqs=chrome..69i57.13815j0j7&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8)

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**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/25 "2020-05-16T02:07:05Z")

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“[I think, without hesitation, Trevor Noah will earn your trust and respect…or not](https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10153200727416800/?t=41).” Well said. Noah seems to be very comfortable in his role and has such a big orange bullseye to lampoon too.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/26 "2020-05-16T02:31:08Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> No one stated it as fact.

No one explicitly stated “this is fact,” but when you cite something and then evaluate Desi Lydic using it as a basis, you are treating it as fact. If all you mean to do is say that Person X is funny, then why are you using the first half of that sentence to lay out a sexist stereotype? The juxtaposition is intentional and inescapable.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/27 "2020-05-16T03:44:12Z")

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I watched Jon Stewart pretty religiously. Trevor I watch once every week or two. Apples and Oranges.

One of Trevor’s strengths is also his weakness, that of being a foreigner. The “help me understand this as a non-American” schtick works very occaisionally. IMHO it was way overemployed and doesn’t do it for me.

He is incredibly talented, multi lingual, sharp wit, etc. All that said, simply hasn’t become my go-to. Personal preference I think. I probably tune into Colbert once a week for 5-10 minutes as a benchmark. I watched Jon Stewart pretty much every show for the entire show and the extended segments.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/28 "2020-05-16T04:09:30Z")

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To be fair, Jon Stewart could have cut _way_ back on the segments pointing out the hypocrisy of Fox News. It seemed like every other episode featured dueling clips of one of the Fox News talking heads contradicting themselves.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/29 "2020-05-16T05:23:39Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> No one explicitly stated “this is fact,” but when you cite something and then evaluate Desi Lydic using it as a basis, you are treating it as fact. If all you mean to do is say that Person X is funny, then why are you using the first half of that sentence to lay out a sexist stereotype? The juxtaposition is intentional and inescapable.

Nope. This is complete nonsense. You are making an absurd and unwarranted extrapolation.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/30 "2020-05-16T12:42:28Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Nope. This is complete nonsense. You are making an absurd and unwarranted extrapolation.

That was how I read it as well, so they’re not the only one. Does that still makes it “absurd and unwarranted”?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/31 "2020-05-16T13:00:25Z")

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> [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](#):
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> Never watched the TV show pre-lockdown, but the show now is one of the bright spots of my day. Love all their current correspondents. It is supposed to be very hard for beautiful women to be funny (at least that’s the conventional wisdom), but Desi Lydic is fantastic. Her Foxsplaining bits are great.
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> I always thought they hired Noah because he was the person on earth least likely to be comparable to Jon.

I’m not sure where this “conventional wisdom” comes from, or if it’s widely believed by anyone, but it’s really not relevant here.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/32 "2020-05-16T16:27:09Z")

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Jon Stewart is still the model of a political talk show host. But I like Trevor and think he has grown into the role. His unique perspective adds a lot. He has also done a better job than most of pandemic shows - Colbert should try more camera angles and an edgier format… I like Colbert but find him hard to watch at the moment. Noah is very witty and draws on much experience. Some of his interviews can be dull, though, few do this better than Stewart.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-is-killing-it/853835/33 "2020-05-16T17:02:03Z")

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I love Trevor Noah.

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