# Trevor Noah leaving the Daily Show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** talk-variety-show\ **Created:** [September 30, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486 "2022-09-30T02:49:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/121 "2022-10-02T20:03:20Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > If your “choose the best for the job” rubric pretty much always results in a straight, white man, then we cannot trust you when you say you’re just going to choose the best for the job. You need to start intentionally seeking out non-straight, non-white, non-men. If you truly do choose the best person for the job then you end up with the best person for the job. I see no problem with that outcome regardless of their sex, sexuality or ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/122 "2022-10-02T20:04:33Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Exactly. If every one of your picks turn out to be straight white men than without question your hiring criteria are “sex, sexuality [and] ethnicity.” Every talk show host is not a straight white man, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/123 "2022-10-02T20:20:02Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > If you truly do choose the best person for the job I don’t trust large corporations in a society dominated for centuries by straight, white men using every means as possible to preserve their power to “truly” do this. And if you do, then you are fooling yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/124 "2022-10-02T20:23:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I don’t trust large corporations in a society dominated for centuries by straight, white men using every means as possible to preserve their power to “truly” do this. And if you do, then you are fooling yourself. Then the solution is to put hiring practices in place that ensure the best candidate gets the job. The solution is not to implement identity-based quotas. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/125 "2022-10-02T22:01:14Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > The solution is not to implement identity-based quotas. Excluded middle. Also, we don’t get to implement the hiring practices. We only get to judge the results. And one reliable factor is counting how overrepresented straight, white men continue to be. Furthermore, your arguments seem to be based on the fallacy of the “one best candidate.” There’s no such thing. There are many people who can do the job now, just as there had been in the past. Only in the past (well, the present, really), straight, white men got over represented. It’s fair to underrepresent them for a few centuries going forward. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/126 "2022-10-02T22:04:55Z")
None so blind as the “colorblind” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/127 "2022-10-02T22:22:55Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Klepper and Hasan? Not seen them in enough stuff. Have their moments. Dunno. If you’ve never seen Klepper’s work with crowds of Trump supporters, you have missed out on some genuinely genius television. I’m not sure he’s a good behind-the-desk kind of guy but as a field correspondent he’s one of the best. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/128 "2022-10-02T22:37:52Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Also, we don’t get to implement the hiring practices. We only get to judge the results. And one reliable factor is counting how overrepresented straight, white men continue to be. So over-representation of any group is always evidence of unfairly discriminatory hiring practices? > [@Acsenray](#): > > It’s fair to underrepresent them for a few centuries going forward. So you think the best answer to past discrimination is present and future discrimination? That doesn’t sound like a workable solution, that sounds like revenge. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/129 "2022-10-02T22:38:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Excluded middle. It isn’t me who is suggesting racist hiring policies, non-discriminatory hiring policies _are_ the middle. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/130 "2022-10-02T22:41:40Z")
It’s you who is suggesting them. Yes. Disingenuously something isn’t happening isn’t the same thing as them not happening. “We have thoroughly investigated ourselves and found that we are blameless” doesn’t fool anyone who doesn’t want to be fooled. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/131 "2022-10-02T22:43:12Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > It’s you who is suggesting them You are flat our wrong, as usual. Quote me where I am suggesting using discriminatory hiring practcies. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/132 "2022-10-02T22:46:30Z")
You are suggesting we continue to allow them, by pretending it’s not happening. This is the real world, not your made up fantasy alt-history. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/133 "2022-10-02T22:53:08Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > You are suggesting we continue to allow them, by pretending it’s not happening. You are clearly confused, remember what I wrote here? i.e. the opposite of your ignorant claim. > [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Then the solution is to put hiring practices in place that ensure the best candidate gets the job I can accept that discriminatory hiring practices have been used and have never suggested otherwise. I’m suggesting we work to get rid of them, not supplant them by even more discrimination. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/134 "2022-10-02T22:58:59Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I can accept that discriminatory hiring practices have been used and have never suggested otherwise. > I’m suggesting we work to get rid of them, not supplant them by even more discrimination. This is what I’m saying is in practice exactly what I described as “We gave thoroughly investigated ourselves and found that we are blameless” ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2022, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/135 "2022-10-02T23:12:00Z")
Determining the best candidate for a 2022 talk show host must by definition include considerations of “sex, sexuality [and] ethnicity.” Because the 2022 audience takes those into consideration. Not doing so as a television network executive would be criminal negligence. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/136 "2022-10-03T02:49:09Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So maybe this is more of a 'we’re not going to renew your contract" situation. I feel bad for him. Because of covid, he spent more than a quarter of his 7 years either without a show, with a show but in an empty studio or trying to do it from home. It must be a lot more difficult to not get that immediate feedback that they’re used to. [The Hollywood Reporter says](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/the-daily-show-will-continue-comedy-central-without-trevor-noah-1235231550/) that Trevor Noah’s announcement was a surprise to executives. The article says, “Noah in June extended his option to remain at the center of _The Daily Show_ for another two years. Sources note he also had an option for another year that would have taken him through the 2024-25 season.” ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/137 "2022-10-03T03:02:07Z")
I blame Dua Lipa. > **[Trevor Noah and Dua Lipa Hug and Kiss Outside NYC Restaurant](https://www.tmz.com/2022/10/01/trevor-noah-dua-lipa-kissing-hugging-photos-restaurant/)** > > There are reports Trevor Noah and Dua Lipa are "just friends." Really? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/138 "2022-10-03T03:22:24Z")
I have seen and enjoyed Klepper’s interviews with various supporters of dubious things. But not interviewing celebrities or discussing politics with knowledgeable people. He does a great Tom Green, making people who believe silly things look sillier. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/139 "2022-10-03T06:44:22Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > This is what I’m saying is in practice exactly what I described as “We gave thoroughly investigated ourselves and found that we are blameless” I have no idea who you are referring to here, nor what that has to do with any opinion that I hold. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486/140 "2022-10-03T06:51:00Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Determining the best candidate for a 2022 talk show host must by definition include considerations of “sex, sexuality [and] ethnicity.” Because the 2022 audience takes those into consideration. Not doing so as a television network executive would be criminal negligence. So if a host’s ethnicity, sex or sexuality were not attractive to an audience those executives would be criminally negligent? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah-leaving-the-daily-show/972486.md?page=8)