# ...Trevor Noah. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650 "2018-07-27T00:56:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/181 "2018-07-30T21:59:10Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Not only that, I bet if he apologized, he’d get more criticism for not apologizing well enough on top of the criticism for not choosing the right issues to apologize about. …I don’t know where you are getting that from. The people who were directly offended by the joke are from the indigenous Australian community. What makes you think that if he offers a genuine apology they would still continue to criticize him? And why would that matter? He told a racist-as-fuck joke. He has shown no sign that he knows it was a racist-as-fuck joke, he shows no awareness of how offensive the joke actually was, so I’m not entirely sure why you want to give him a pass. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/182 "2018-07-30T22:47:36Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > I bet if he apologized, he’d get more criticism for not apologizing well enough on top of the criticism for not choosing the right issues to apologize about. You do realize you’ve just used a hypothetical strawman, right? That is not a good basis for a defence. “I would apologize for doing something wrong, but if I do that then the reaction to my apology may offend me” You’re meant to apologize when you know you did something wrong. The purpose of the apology isn’t actually meant to be to make people feel better about you. It’s to make a clear statement that you did something you feel bad about, and to acknowledge your screw up. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/183 "2018-07-30T23:10:54Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > It looks to me like he’s reflected and done right by his standards. His actions don’t seem to mirror your standards. I was trying to explain why I thought he might have come to the conclusion that he did. YMobviouslyV. [/QUOTE] Perhaps–but that’s not what he’s said. He hasn’t said, “that joke is fine”; he’s said, “I don’t want to set a precedent.” (Paraphrased, of course, but I think that’s the thrust of his statement). If he said the former, I’d have an entirely different criticism for it. As it is, the idea of setting a precedent is idiotic. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/184 "2018-07-31T00:20:53Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I don’t know where you are getting that from. > > The people who were directly offended by the joke are from the indigenous Australian community. What makes you think that if he offers a genuine apology they would still continue to criticize him? And why would that matter? Partly from something you posted earlier in the thread. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …most of the apologies we’ve heard since #metoo started have been pretty bullshit. and > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > But I don’t demand an apology from Noah. This is a pitting about how he chose to respond when he got called out for a racist-as-fuck joke. Noah has chosen not to say sorry and I’m fine with him not saying sorry and I’m free to judge him for choosing not to apologise. This isn’t about “appeasement.” Because an apology given with an intent to “appease” is not a genuine apology at all. That’s the fucking point you are missing. First, you noted that there are apologies that don’t meet your level of genuineness that were given since the #metoo movement. Then you also noted that a genuine apology has to be given with a certain intent, not just an intent to appease. No one can know Trevor Noah’s intent with 100% certainty. The likelihood that he’ll convince everyone that his apology is genuine given that standard is low. As you say, there have been many apologies given by celebrities. Most of them were not taken as “genuine” by everyone. There are usually critics who will question intent. > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > He told a racist-as-fuck joke. He has shown no sign that he knows it was a racist-as-fuck joke, he shows no awareness of how offensive the joke actually was, so I’m not entirely sure why you want to give him a pass. I’m not sure how you would determine his level of awareness that it was a racist joke, but to me, his acknowledgement that he stopped telling the joke after his visit to “Australia’s Bunjilaka museum and learning about aboriginal history” shows some evidence that he realized that his joke was racist and offensive. I don’t know if you’ve already read this since this is how much of this got started, [according to CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/africa/trevor-noah-aboriginal-women-joke-intl/index.html). Basically, the exchange is about Joe Williams asking Trevor Noah to apologize, explaining that it was racist. Noah acknowledged that it was racist and that he doesn’t do the joke since he learned more about the aboriginal culture. He also accepted Williams’ invitation to learn more about the culture. > [@](#): > > Former Australian National Rugby League Player, Joe Williams who posted the video on the social media platform, expressed his disapproval and asked Noah to apologize. > “Hey @Trevornoah, your comments about Aboriginal @IndigenousX in this clip are utterly unacceptable! As a man of color, you are usually in point with racism & divide - here you are perpetrating & encouraging racial abuse!!” Williams wrote. > \ > Noah responded by admitting that his joke was inappropriate and said he no longer made such jokes. > \ > “After visiting Australia’s Bunjilaka museum and learning about aboriginal history first hand I vowed never to make a joke like that again. And I haven’t. I’ll make sure the clip from 2013 is not promoted in any way.” he added. > \ > Noting that the video had been taken down, Williams said he was waiting to see if Noah would “let me take him to community for some cultural awareness & front and apologise to our staunch and beautifully caring women.” > \ > Noah responded that he would visit the Aboriginal community, writing that he was open to learning. > \ > However social media users began to unearth some of Noah’s older, controversial tweets, including a reference to the infamous domestic violence episode between musicians, Chris Brown and Rihanna. Noah has acknowledged that he was wrong, stopped doing the wrong thing and accepted an invitation to learn more about the culture. However, he stopped short of the words ‘I’m sorry’ when social media started to unearth old jokes from him that would require him to apologize for a lot of his older material. I’m not giving him a pass. I’m just not sure what you’re wanting him to do. As you say, the words “I’m sorry” often rings hollow when it’s not backed by action and is criticized often as not genuine. Noah has already done a lot of the action of an apology. If this is what you’re looking for: > [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > I’m one of the people that “wants Noah to offer a proper apology”. (But more than an apology I want Noah to simply acknowledge that he perpetuated an ugly damaging stereotype that has been used to attack indigenous Australians for decades) He can’t fulfill this more than he has already except to say the words ‘I’m sorry.’ which will probably be accepted as much as his previous actions. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/185 "2018-07-31T00:59:33Z")
> [@Powers](#): > > I have to admit to a bit of confusion here. > > Doesn’t he start the bit by saying all women, of any race, can be beautiful? > > And isn’t the joke trying to _counter_ the view he supposes his audience to have, that no Aboriginal women are beautiful? > Powers &8^] Yes, this is exactly it. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/186 "2018-07-31T01:08:43Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > You do realize you’ve just used a hypothetical strawman, right? That is not a good basis for a defence. “I would apologize for doing something wrong, but if I do that then the reaction to my apology may offend me” > > You’re meant to apologize when you know you did something wrong. The purpose of the apology isn’t actually meant to be to make people feel better about you. It’s to make a clear statement that you did something you feel bad about, and to acknowledge your screw up. I’m not defending him, and I don’t think he feels he needs a defense. I can’t know if he feels bad about telling the joke. He did something until he knew better. He acknowledged on Twitter\* that it was an inappropriate joke after learning more about the aboriginal culture and then stopped telling the joke. \*see post 184 for more on the acknowledgement on Twitter ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/187 "2018-07-31T01:10:23Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > ]. > He can’t fulfill this more than he has already except to say the words ‘I’m sorry.’ which will probably be accepted as much as his previous actions. What exactly is your point? His previous racist Twitter jokes were brought up when he got the Daily Show gig and he basically said “those were bad jokes and they aren’t where I m as a comedian any more” and he kept the job. What would he fear from such a similar outcome? A raise? ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/188 "2018-07-31T01:18:03Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Perhaps–but that’s not what he’s said. He hasn’t said, “that joke is fine”; he’s said, “I don’t want to set a precedent.” (Paraphrased, of course, but I think that’s the thrust of his statement). > > If he said the former, I’d have an entirely different criticism for it. As it is, the idea of setting a precedent is idiotic. I wasn’t saying that he was saying he did right by telling the joke. I was saying that he must have felt right by his reaction to the call for an apology. After he acknowledged the joke was inappropriate and assured people on Twitter\* that he wouldn’t do the joke again as well as accepting an invitation to learn about the culture, he must have felt he did right by deciding not to apologize because he was deliberate about that. He obviously disagreed with you that “setting a precedent is idiotic”, as you put it. \*for more on the Twitter exchange, see post 184 ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/189 "2018-07-31T01:25:11Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > What exactly is your point? His previous racist Twitter jokes were brought up when he got the Daily Show gig and he basically said “those were bad jokes and they aren’t where I m as a comedian any more” and he kept the job. What would he fear from such a similar outcome? A raise? As I understand it, he didn’t apologize then. He’s not apologizing now. His response to this is the same as it was then, as you describe. I don’t think he’s fearing anything. That’s probably why he’s not apologizing. It would just lead to more calls for him to apologize. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/190 "2018-07-31T01:40:50Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > As I understand it, he didn’t apologize then. He’s not apologizing now. His response to this is the same as it was then, as you describe. I don’t think he’s fearing anything. > > That’s probably why he’s not apologizing. It would just lead to more calls for him to apologize. What kind of dance are you trying to pull? You said, and I quote: “He can’t fulfill this more than he has already except to say the words ‘I’m sorry.’ which will probably be accepted as much as his previous actions.”. But he didn’t apologize then, according to you, but saying sorry this time will have the same result? Or maybe you thought he apologized last time and it didn’t do any good? Or maybe you are just full of shit and “just asking questions” to whatever is in front of you at the moment? The last one is my guess. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/191 "2018-07-31T01:58:34Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > What kind of dance are you trying to pull? You said, and I quote: “He can’t fulfill this more than he has already except to say the words ‘I’m sorry.’ which will probably be accepted as much as his previous actions.”. But he didn’t apologize then, according to you, but saying sorry this time will have the same result? Or maybe you thought he apologized last time and it didn’t do any good? Or maybe you are just full of shit and “just asking questions” to whatever is in front of you at the moment? The last one is my guess. No, the “previous actions” I’m referring to are the acknowledgement that his joke was inappropriate, his action of stopping telling the joke and his acceptance of the invitation to learn about the culture in this particular issue. You’re reading my words of “previous actions” as previous issues. I’m talking about his previous actions in this issue. I’m saying that his previous actions of his acts of contrition in this particular instance will be met with the same acceptance as any words of apology about this particular issue. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/192 "2018-07-31T02:12:09Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > I’m saying that his previous actions of his acts of contrition in this particular instance will be met with the same acceptance as any words of apology about this particular issue. You don’t exactly strike me as someone who “gets” people so I am gobsmacked at your confidence in such a prediction. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/193 "2018-07-31T02:17:46Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > You don’t exactly strike me as someone who “gets” people so I am gobsmacked at your confidence in such a prediction. lol Best laugh of the day. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/194 "2018-07-31T02:25:10Z")
While I’m sure you laughed for the wrong reasons, you’re welcome regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/195 "2018-07-31T02:36:02Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > While I’m sure you laughed for the wrong reasons I am gobsmacked at your confidence in such a statement. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/196 "2018-07-31T04:47:57Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Partly from something you posted earlier in the thread. > > and > > First, you noted that there are apologies that don’t meet your level of genuineness that were given since the #metoo movement. …it isn’t about “my level of genuineness.” The word “consensus” exists. > [@](#): > > Then you also noted that a genuine apology has to be given with a certain intent, not just an intent to appease. What is it, do you think that “certain intent” would be? > [@](#): > > No one can know Trevor Noah’s intent with 100% certainty. But there are things that we can be certain of. For example Dan Harmon considered he owed Megan Ganz an apology. He offered an apology, she accepted that apology. We know this for certain 100%. We know that Trevor Noah doesn’t think the indigenous people of Australia deserve an apology. So he hasn’t offered one. We know this 100% as well. The reason why Trevor Noah doesn’t think he owes the indigenous people of Australia deserve an apology doesn’t really matter. > [@](#): > > The likelihood that he’ll convince everyone that his apology is genuine given that standard is low. What a load of fucking bullshit. How are you measuring “likelihood?” > [@](#): > > As you say, there have been many apologies given by celebrities. Most of them were not taken as “genuine” by everyone. There are usually critics who will question intent. And thats a pretty selfish reason not to offer an apology don’t you think? Here’s a yes or no question for you. We find a video of you five years ago calling Michelle Obama the N word. On the very same video you call black American women “monkey’s”. Would you apologize now for those actions after they got unearthed? Or would you refuse to apologize because your apology might not be taken as genuine by everyone? That one or two people might question your intent? Do you honestly think not apologizing is the best course of action? > [@](#): > > I’m not sure how you would determine his level of awareness that it was a racist joke, but to me, his acknowledgement that he stopped telling the joke after his visit to “Australia’s Bunjilaka museum and learning about aboriginal history” shows some evidence that he realized that his joke was racist and offensive. To me that is the equivalent of a white guy saying its okay to call black people the N word because “his best friend is black.” So he visited a museum. Whoop-de-fucking shit. Does he want a fucking medal? > [@](#): > > I don’t know if you’ve already read this since this is how much of this got started, [according to CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/africa/trevor-noah-aboriginal-women-joke-intl/index.html). Of course I’ve fucking read it. I read the actual twitter exchange about a couple of hours after it happened. > [@](#): > > Basically, the exchange is about Joe Williams asking Trevor Noah to apologize, explaining that it was racist. Noah acknowledged that it was racist No he didn’t admit it was racist. Read what he actually fucking said. > [@](#): > > and that he doesn’t do the joke since he learned more about the aboriginal culture. That shows just how fucking clueless he was. You don’t need to know anything about Samoan culture to realize that a joke with the punchline “all Samoan women are ugly” is a pretty fucking stupid and offensive joke. Noah’s joke worked (for the audience) because it played into an ugly stereotype that Noah knew existed. The joke wouldn’t have worked otherwise. It wasn’t an accident. It was calculated and a deliberate act. > [@](#): > > He also accepted Williams’ invitation to learn more about the culture. But he never said sorry. He never acknowledged the joke was racist. He only stopped using the joke when he found out people were offended. > [@](#): > > However, he stopped short of the words ‘I’m sorry’ when social media started to unearth old jokes from him that would require him to apologize for a lot of his older material. No that wasn’t the reason why he didn’t offer an apology. The CNN article cites a single example of this happening. And its a bullshit reason not to offer an apology anyway. > [@](#): > > I’m not giving him a pass. Yes you fucking well are. > [@](#): > > I’m just not sure what you’re wanting him to do. I suggest you read the fucking thread. > [@](#): > > As you say, the words “I’m sorry” often rings hollow when it’s not backed by action and is criticized often as not genuine. Noah has already done a lot of the action of an apology. “Actions of an apology” is just “going through the motions.” “Actions of an apology” aren’t a fucking apology. Thats the fucking point. > [@](#): > > If this is what you’re looking for: Its not about what I’m looking for. Trevor Noah didn’t tell a joke with significant historical emotional baggage about my people. He told that joke about one of the most marginalized and impoverished people on the planet. Its all about what they are looking for. > [@](#): > > He can’t fulfill this more than he has already Of course he fucking can. Nobody is holding a gun to his head saying “you can’t say the words sorry.” What the fuck are you going on about? > [@](#): > > except to say the words ‘I’m sorry.’ which will probably be accepted as much as his previous actions. But his previous actions were a load of fucking bullshit. Which is why they weren’t “accepted” before. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/197 "2018-07-31T14:49:37Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > > [@Powers](#): > > > > I have to admit to a bit of confusion here. > > > > Doesn’t he start the bit by saying all women, of any race, can be beautiful? > > > > And isn’t the joke trying to _counter_ the view he supposes his audience to have, that no Aboriginal women are beautiful? > > Powers &8^] > > Yes, this is exactly it. No, that is \*not \*exactly it. That is not \*remotely \*it. **Powers** , if you don’t get it, please don’t listen to someonelse who also doesn’t get it. Instead, go back and read the exchanges that have taken place to this point. You should get it before too long. Or if you’re in a need-answer-quick situation, go straight to what **Sunny Daze** posted in [#23](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21111328&postcount=23), or maybe take a gander at what\*\* Budget Player Cadet \*\*wrote in [#44](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21111467&postcount=44). And if you’ve got just a little more time, take a gander at the article \*\*JeffB \*\*posted in [#25](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21111335&postcount=25). ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/198 "2018-07-31T15:06:43Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > No, that is \*not \*exactly it. > That is not \*remotely \*it. > > **Powers** , if you don’t get it, please don’t listen to someonelse who also doesn’t get it. > Instead, go back and read the exchanges that have taken place to this point. You should get it before too long. > Or if you’re in a need-answer-quick situation, go straight to what **Sunny Daze** posted in [#23](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21111328&postcount=23), or maybe take a gander at what\*\* Budget Player Cadet \*\*wrote in [#44](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21111467&postcount=44). > And if you’ve got just a little more time, take a gander at the article \*\*JeffB \*\*posted in [#25](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21111335&postcount=25). Yes, actually that IS it. Perhaps YOU don’t get it, along with those others that you quoted. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/199 "2018-07-31T16:07:56Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > We know that Trevor Noah doesn’t think the indigenous people of Australia deserve an apology. So he hasn’t offered one. > > We know this 100% as well. We do? :dubious: How do we know this? ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/200 "2018-07-31T23:32:16Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yes, actually that IS it. Perhaps YOU don’t get it, along with those others that you quoted. Oh, well, when you put it like _that_… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650.md?page=11)