# ...Trevor Noah. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 27, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650 "2018-07-27T00:56:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/241 "2018-08-04T09:35:17Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Attempting to pass this one off as anything else is trying to pick up a turd by the clean end. Forget it, Gary. Your talking to a dung beetle. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/242 "2018-08-04T11:49:13Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Yeah; that’s what I thought: your comment there _was_ a passive-aggressive way of dismissing the conversation, just like your re-iteration of my words. If you could defend your position, I’m sure you would. Good example of passive aggression and dismissing the conversation! It couldn’t be that we both were making exactly the same points in post after post, and that gets rather tiresome, could it? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/243 "2018-08-04T21:43:16Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …very proud of my Prime Minister, and very proud of my country today. > > [https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1025558961104158720](https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1025558961104158720) The first commentator in the tweet feed, @debbie\_fearon, has a reasonable take in my view. 1. The NZ government didn’t ban those 2 from entering the country, nor did they muzzle them: they were free to give interviews on television and they did. 2. “The privately owned venue decided to cancel their event. Not the #NZ govt. It was a commercial decision based on the possibility of losing money due to negative views of some of local people and was entirely up to the owner.” I say free speech doesn’t mean that others have to listen to you. Sorry, but nobody can guarantee you an audience regardless of how much attention you crave. PS: Did NZ do this right? Looks like they did. For a US example of doing this right, go here: [https://twitter.com/slpng\_giants?lang=en](https://twitter.com/slpng_giants?lang=en) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/244 "2018-08-07T00:30:56Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Aboriginal women are predominantly, perhaps even exclusively unattractive, but they might jump you in bed or give great head, so that’s all right You probably shouldn’t say things like this. People might think you are racist. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/245 "2018-08-07T05:26:49Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > You probably shouldn’t say things like this. People might think you are racist. Thank the lord there’s apologists for racism like you to defend me then. Or does that only happen if it’s a media figure you like? ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/246 "2018-08-07T08:30:56Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I disagree, and you’re not refuting my argument, you’re simply restating your position. > > “Yet” directly challenges the bigot’s attitude, perceptions and ideas. Look at this example: > > “All ice cream sucks! I’ve never tried a flavor of ice cream that I like!” > “Have you tried pistachio?” > > That exchange in no way validates the claim that “all ice cream sucks”; in fact, it directly challenges it. Do you disagree? > > Also, the sentence “Women from all races can be beautiful” directly contradicts what you claim he’s implying. What do you think the point of the joke was? Was it “your bigoted perceptions are perfectly reasonable and valid”, or was it something else? Well, no. The straight equivalent would be: \*“All ice-cream is good. But you say, what about pistachio? Pistachio is disgusting. But you have to say: “it’s disgusting… for now” Because you haven’t tried every pistachio ice cream in the world, have you? And maybe, even if you have, pistachio ice cream is really nutritious or something.” \* Then you’d think that the person speaking is not a pistachio ice cream lover. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_Carlson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc79bd/32.png) [@Not\_Carlson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_Carlson)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/247 "2018-08-09T10:47:42Z")
> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#): > > Well, no. The straight equivalent would be: > > \*“All ice-cream is good. But you say, what about pistachio? Pistachio is disgusting. But you have to say: “it’s disgusting… for now” Because you haven’t tried every pistachio ice cream in the world, have you? And maybe, even if you have, pistachio ice cream is really nutritious or something.” > \* > Then you’d think that the person speaking is not a pistachio ice cream lover. Well put. The few people suggesting Noah’s atrocious joke was not predicated on the notion that Aboriginal women are generally ugly and their only saving grace is in their sexual favours are denying the only element that would make it a joke, such as it is. Do they suppose Noah just decided to interrupt his stand-up comedy routine in order to lecture his audience on being more open-minded? “All women are beautiful, and if you think some aren’t, well you’re wrong. And besides, women have more to offer than just their beauty!” (Cue raucous applause.) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650/248 "2018-08-13T06:05:23Z")
> [@Not\_Carlson](#): > > Do they suppose Noah just decided to interrupt his stand-up comedy routine in order to lecture his audience on being more open-minded? I take it you’ve never seen a Trevor Noah stand-up before? That’s kind of what he does. I’m not saying this is that, though, This was a dumb joke, he’s done similar about a South African traditionally-not-considered-conventionally-attractive minority as well. He’s gotten a lot better over time, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trevor-noah/818650.md?page=12)