Trial by jury

I must say I don’t think debates like this are answered with appeals to heroic rhetoric like “bulwark against tyranny”. Mobs are not bulwarks against tyrrany, and juries can all too frequently simply be representatives of mobs, notwithstanding the generally curative effects of a courtroom. This man (a nationally famous child molester where I come from who has the misfortune to have an appearance unlikely to endear him to a jury) might be expected to stand little chance in front of a jury.

In determining the issue of whether judge or jury trials are “better”, the obvious first thought is to measure the reliability of outcome of jury trials versus judge trials, and the obvious second thought is to recognise that there is no way to reliably do this empirically. If we had a metasystem that could do a better job at determining the reliability of results, we would be using it in the first place.

That said, non-empirical experience suggests that juries, brought in for relatively short periods and generally unfamiliar with processes as they are, tend to err in predictable ways. In the first trials any particular jury panel does, they are highly anxious about the result, are too readily impressed by the well-developed “reasonable doubt” rhetoric, and acquit at a far higher rate than they do after they have some experience on board. This effect is so marked that I recall a prominent criminal defence lawyer (now judge) once facetiously commenting that it was probably professional negligence not to do your best to try to put your client on as the first trial before a new panel.

There is a rebound effect to this - by the end of a panel’s sittings, they seem to overcompensate for what they now think was excessive timidity at first with possibly excessive willingness to convict. They have heard all the reasonable doubt rhetoric several times now, figure it is just rhetoric, and ignore it.

Cutting across that is an observation that juries tend to be excessively forgiving of offences perceived to be of modest seriousness, and excessively unforgiving of serious or high profile offences (of course, there are famous exceptions to these general propositions, and this effect may be jurisdiction specific).

All the above considerations, can, of course, conflict.

If all jury trials were now converted overnight to bench trials, then I would think that in the short term there would be generally more reliable results, and results which better conformed to the parties’ expectations at the outset. However, that won’t happen, and would only last in the short term for the following reasons.

The first is that lawyers would very rapidly come to figure out who were the “hanging” judges and who were the soft touches. They would thus wait till they knew who their judge was and then plead guilty or not depending on their perception of their chances. This would distort the reliability (in a statistical sense) of outcomes.

The second is that judges (and legal systems) can develop a microculture that is very insular without the corrective injected by juries. Judges were the ones who invented the idea that women and children were not reliable witnesses and required corroboration before their evidence could form the basis of a conviction. They did so on what is now seen as a profoundly wrong understanding of such things. Yet they were convinced that they had a special insight that made them right.

Another example from my experience is the importance of inconsistency in a witness’s testimony. Judges have a tendency to attach too much weight to this issue in the assessment of credibility. Perhaps this is because it is easy to identify, it appeals to the micro-analytical mindset of lawyers generally and it offers the illusion of objectivity. In truth inconsistencies can be found in the testimony of everyone, and juries tend to attach little significance to the general run of inconsistency that is merely an inevitable artefact of ordinary human imperfection and background noise in the system. In my view, they are generally right to do so. (Of course, no-one ignores whopping inconsistencies - they are not what I am talking about.)

Shortly put, it is too easy for a judicial culture to emerge that believes itself to be unassailably superior to the lesser judgment of the poor benighted peons it serves, and build in biases in the assessment of facts that are hard to eradicate.

The third reason is that (in jurisdictions like the UK and elsewhere where judges are appointed and not elected) the creation of a system of judge only trials creates an increased pressure on politicians to appoint judges more likely to convict, to avoid the political embarrassment of high profile acquittals. While that pressure is there in the present system, it is muted because judges don’t make the ultimate decision.

Whether that pressure translates into actual appointments is another issue, but it is an unhelpful pressure on the system. It imposes an increased tendency to distort judicial appointments in favour of the prosecution. As a prosecutor, of course I am happy with that :). As a citizen, I am unhappy with any added risk of the distortion of the processes of judicial appointment.

In conclusion, my view after having been done more hundreds of jury trials than I care to count is that both systems have their strengths and weaknesses. I think it is more important to be driven by pragmatism about this than an a priori assumption about the superiority of one system over the other, to keep an eye on what is actually happening in the courts, and to apply whatever correctives are necessary. Appeals to generalised hagiographic mythologising about juries or judges won’t answer the question.

Some posters above have suggested that the appeal system serves to correct whatever flaws the jury system produces. May I offer the view that that is less valuable than one might at first think.

Appeals generally (subject to regional variation) do not involve a retrial of the issues from zero. Appellate courts generally work from transcripts, and recognise the advantages that the jury had (and that the appellate court does not) in actually seeing the witnesses live. Stammering, long pauses, and failure to make eye contact, never appear in a transcript, nor do forthrightness or ring-of-truth body language. After all, if appellate courts were to rehear the whole thing from the outset, what is the point of going through the jury trial at all? One may as well cut out the middle man and cut straight to the appellate court. Appellate courts recognise the constitutional position of the jury, and will not supplant trial by appellate court for trial by jury. Thus, appellate courts tend overwhelming to defer to juries when it comes to questions of determining who was telling the truth, should a particular complainant be believed, etc. It is generally only in rare, outlier cases that appellate courts intervene and overturn juries’ conclusions on purely factual questions.

Since juries do not give reasons for their verdicts, a consequence of this is that appeals from jury verdicts IME tend to focus on formal things such as the wording of directions to the jury. This is much more complicated than one might naively think. It does not, however, really mean that appellate courts correct jury verdicts on conclusions of fact other than in extreme cases.

One advantage of bench trials is that judges have to give reasons, making their decisions both more transparent and more open to critique on appeal than jury verdicts.

Wouldn’t a solution to the problem be to require juries or members thereof to (anonymously, of course) draft at least a summary of their reasons, opinions and the logic behind them ? Not only would it simplify the problem you stated, but it would make cases of prejudiced juries even more apparent. Why don’t juries have to give reasons for their verdict in the first place ? (honest question from humble ignorance - we have bench trials 'round these parts, except in the highest of courts)

I guess the reason is the old story about sausages - you might like the outcome, but you wouldn’t want to see them made.

We understand that no document written by a lay person would withstand scrutiny by a lawyer determined to find fault with it, and for that reason we don’t subject them to the process. Moreover, some things are matters of impression that don’t readily translate into written reasons and we would not want the process of writing reasons to distort the process of decision making. We would prefer juries retain the capacity to act on inarticulable instinct about things. Judges can too, of course, but they know the right phrases of art to use in order to defend them. Juries don’t.

Lastly, in a practical sense, what would happen is that both sides would end up providing draft reasons to the jury in order to make the result appeal proof, and that too would distort the process.

If they are worried about jury tampering, why not borrow 12 people from some other country and fly them in annonymously, and shroud the jury box so the faces can not be seen of every jury trial going on at the time, and sequester them all identically. If you cant tell which 12 people are the proper jury for the case, and they arent even from the country [get them from Canada or some other commonwealth country] then they and their families cant be tampered with.

Excellent point :slight_smile:

Yes, that goes without saying - however I was thinking of such summaries as tools for the appeals’ jury rather than lawyers - people who would be just as “clueless” of the terms of art and the rethorical holes etc… , but would be able to better understand why the previous jury ruled the way it did, maybe why the verdict is contested etc…

Huh. Interesting. I would have guessed the complete opposite - that such matters of impression would, on the contrary, be considered a hindrance to the impartial justice process and that law professionals would do their best to limit their impact on the trial. I know *I *wouldn’t like to have my testimony disregarded behind closed doors on the grounds that “he looks shifty”, end up convicted because “he’s cold and emotionless, like a PSYCHOPATH !” or something like that.

That one I can totally buy.

Excellent analysis. But a few points

  1. THe major common law system where the Jury trial was abandoned in favour of the trial by bench or judge are the sucessor states of British India (I think Pakistan was the last holdout until the 70’s) have not seen the effects that you say would occur if a jury trial was abandoned. You said lawyers would try to get a judge who is more favourable, well we do that any way and as shown in S Asia, the old adage; a judge can alway be appealed against, holds true and is a stabilising factor. Even if you get a hanging judge, well when he hands down a verdict he has to give his reasons and those reasons will be shot to bits at appeal.

  2. The bit about appeal not being a rerun is true and would hold true (and does in the relevant juridictions) even if you had a bench trial. In an appeal, you must convince the court that the lower forum made an error of law, or fact or the action lacked procedural propriety or the court failed to take into account something.

At present in criminal appeals, the Appellants pour over the trial transcripts and sometimes pull something literally out of a hat.

  1. You mention children and women being unreliable witnesses (and for children I would agree, although it depends on case to case), well jurys are worse, they misunderstand forensic evidence, jumping to conclusions not merited by the evidence and often trusting unreliable witnesses. Don’t even get me started on identification evidence and how jurys make a meal of that.

  2. As experience has show in jurisdictions where jury trials have been abandoned, the conviction rates have gone up, but the rate of people going to trial has dropped, judges are far less forgiving of prosecutions attempting to bring cases where there is doubt then jurys.

Professionally, I enjoy jury trials, and enjoy conducting them. But to say that it is the best system, when it mainfestly is wrong headed in my opinion.

Can a judiciary ever truly be independent of a legislature? Somebody has to appoint them, after all.

Look at the Supreme Court’s votes on Bush v. Gore - every justice voted along party lines.

Judicial Independence is secured not by virtue of who appoints them, but rather by security of tenure.

Supreme Court justices receive life appointments, and IIRC not one has even been impeached. That’s pretty fucking secure.

Noel Prosequi, where are you that a jury hears more than one case? In California, at least, a jury does one trial and then goes home.

I’m not sure that is a bad thing.

Purely in self interest, I’d like to see some areas taken out of the hands of juries. Antitrust cases and patent law cases present technical difficulties I am not sure are correctly handled by a jury. I’d also like to see specialist judges for them as well, even on a first trial level.

Only true in a very limited sense. With very rare exceptions, appellate courts review errors of law (made by the judge), not findings of fact (made by the jury in jury trials, the judge in bench trials). If evidence was admitted that shouldn’t have been, or vice-versa, or the jury instructions were flawed, or anything like that - yes, the appellate court will fix that. If it’s simply that the jurors were fools - it’s very, very difficult to get an appellate court to touch that.

But also remember such things as JMOVs.

Error on the record is also a good way to get facts reviewed. And you can alway put in the hoary old line “the impugened judgement erred in fact”, to get around that.

I’d love to remember such things as JMOVs… Only I can’t, because I have never known what JMOVs are. Google was not very helpful, and I’m sure there are others just as ignorant as I am, so could you please explain what JMOVs are?

OK - my bad. I meant JMOL - Judgment as a Matter of Law. Or JNOV, Judgment Notwithstanding the Verdict. Which are different names for the same thing - I think JMOL is the modern name. Basically, the judge can overule the jury, saying their findings weren’t possible under the law. While it is part of the trial stage, its almost more appelate.

It’s criminal equivalent (motion to set aside the verdict, I think) cannot be used to overturn a not guilty verdict by the jury, but can find a defendant that the jury found guilty to be not guilty.

Thanks, that clears it up.

Kind of helps if I had used the right terminology in the first place…

Judges don’t have to be appointed by the legislature, though.

Not so. There were three issues before the Court.

  • Stevens (appointed by Ford) voted against Bush on all three issues.

  • Justices Breyer (appointed by Clinton) and Souter (appointed by Bush I) voted in favour of Bush on one issue, and in favour of Gore on two issues.

  • Justices Kennedy (appointed by Reagan) and O’Connor (appointed by Reagan) voted in favour of Bush on two issues and expressed no opinion on the third issue.

    See the summary in the wiki article: