# trigger happy kiddie soldiers? Rashak Mani **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382 "2005-03-07T16:35:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/81 "2005-03-08T18:53:47Z")
> [@Avenger](#): > > **Well** , you really are an ignorant twat. Big talk from a guy who [has trouble distinguishing between the use of nuclear weapons and DU armaments.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5902243&postcount=16) I’m just saying, is all, that I haven’t been impressed by your own dispassionate judgement or deep understanding – seems like you’re mostly along for the “let’s put the boot into the US” ride. ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/82 "2005-03-08T19:04:24Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Big talk from a guy who [has trouble distinguishing between the use of nuclear weapons and DU armaments.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5902243&postcount=16) I’m just saying, is all, that I haven’t been impressed by your own dispassionate judgement or deep understanding – seems like you’re mostly along for the “let’s put the boot into the US” ride. Yawn. My point, as you well know, was that an administration that so vehmently condemns the use of WMD by other states yet is willing to use weapons that, I believe, clearly fall into any sustainable definition of weapons of mass destruction must give us concern about their future restraint for using more serious weapons. As pointed out in the other bits of the thread that you didn’t link to. So I take it you haven’t managed to come up with a definition of WMD yet that allows you to exclude DU weapons, but include those fearsome rusty anthrax shells that Saddam was going to kill us all with? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/83 "2005-03-08T19:11:47Z")
> [@Well](#): > > And when try to dissect their military proceedure it seems to only emphasise that those guys are in a fucked up, highly dangerous situation, So you think refining any of the procedures wouldn’t possibly help these situations in the future? > [@](#): > > not of their own making. Of Bush’s making > [@](#): > > The only thing that makes sense is many of you think those soldiers should put themselves at unnecessary risk and not defend themselves because > > a). you dont approve of the war Unlike you, I’m mature enough to seperate my disapproval of the war from the need for our soldiers to defend themselves > [@](#): > > b) you want them to pull out We realize they can’t pull out, they have to stay in, we don’t have choice. > [@](#): > > c) because you don’t like Bush. Like him or not, you have to question whether invading Iraq was a good move. > [@](#): > > All of this fits your idiotic world veiw despite the hundreds, if not thousands, of civilians, military, police that has been slaughtered and continue to die pretty much daily at checkpoints because of your freedom fighters. No matter hw you look at it that is hostile intent towards US troops. This is beyond pitworthy, I don’t care if you are from the US or not. Our “freedom fighters”? I’ve never seen a single post in this thread in support of the insurgents. Feel free to provide one, or feel free to shut the fuck up. I support our troops, I don’t support the war. Too bad you’re too fucking stupid to realize the difference. ---
**Author:** ![Rashak\_Mani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@Rashak\_Mani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rashak_Mani)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/84 "2005-03-08T19:40:42Z")
> [@Well](#): > > The war has happened. Get over it. Like… just like… 9/11 happened get over it ? Funny how some things must be accepted and left aside and other must continually be lauded as reasons for something to be done. This “accept it and leave it behind mentality” could have avoided some of the current circumstances. Still why should Iraqis and other countries accept the situation while the GOP keeps banging the drums of war and repeating 9/11 like a mantra ? ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/85 "2005-03-08T19:46:01Z")
> [@](#): > > I support our troops, I don’t support the war. Too bad you’re too fucking stupid to realize the difference. Don’t do yourself down **World Eater**. Why must there be a difference? ‘I support the troops so I don’t support the war’ is at least as logical as the reverse and probably more so. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/86 "2005-03-08T19:56:59Z")
> [@Avenger](#): > > Don’t do yourself down **World Eater**. Why must there be a difference? ‘I support the troops so I don’t support the war’ is at least as logical as the reverse and probably more so. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/87 "2005-03-08T20:19:48Z")
> [@Avenger](#): > > So I take it you haven’t managed to come up with a definition of WMD yet that allows you to exclude DU weapons, but include those fearsome rusty anthrax shells that Saddam was going to kill us all with? I’ll tell you what. I’ll drop five pounds of depleted uranium in the corner of my office. You drop an aerosol of five pounds of weaponized anthrax in the corner of yours. This will, I trust, make the distinction painfully clear to you. ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/88 "2005-03-08T20:24:16Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > I’ll tell you what. I’ll drop five pounds of depleted uranium in the corner of my office. You drop an aerosol of five pounds of weaponized anthrax in the corner of yours. This will, I trust, make the distinction painfully clear to you. You know I really think you wouldn’t, but this really isn’t the thread and I’d be repeating myself anyway if I tried to add anything to what I already said in the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/89 "2005-03-08T20:25:41Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > I’ll tell you what. I’ll drop five pounds of depleted uranium in the corner of my office. You drop an aerosol of five pounds of weaponized anthrax in the corner of yours. This will, I trust, make the distinction painfully clear to you. Should remind you now or later that weaponized anthrax hasn’t been found in Iraq? In fact the _only_ item found (IIRC) was a rusty old sarin shell that _exploded_ in the faces of the soldiers handling it. The WMD inside was so deadly that it took them an entire half hour to return to duty. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/90 "2005-03-08T20:31:54Z")
The point being of course that if SH or OBL were using depleted uranium in some fashion, we would spin it as a WMD so fast your head would twist off and ascend up to the sky like a flying saucer. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/91 "2005-03-08T20:50:08Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Should remind you now or later that weaponized anthrax hasn’t been found in Iraq? > > . That has nothing to do with Avenger’s special idiocy. He has repeatedly made the claim that the use of depleted uranium is a WMD on the same order as anthrax or sarin. And it’s just not true. I’m just saying that if you’re going to be flinging around terms like “ignorant twat”, it behooves you not to be one. ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/92 "2005-03-08T20:55:56Z")
Hey, someone wants to imply that I support the actions of suicide bombers and terrorists just because I don’t accept without question the actions of any member of the US Army, I’ll call them an ignorant twat. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/93 "2005-03-08T21:01:52Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > That has nothing to do with Avenger’s special idiocy. He has repeatedly made the claim that the use of depleted uranium is a WMD on the same order as anthrax or sarin. And it’s just not true. Let’s be realistic, if SH had some DU shells laying around, do you think the US would have spun them to be WMD, or related to WMD in some sense? Be honest… ---
**Author:** ![Avenger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Avenger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avenger)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/94 "2005-03-08T21:03:16Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > Let’s be realistic, if SH had some DU shells laying around, do you think the US would have spun them to be WMD, or related to WMD in some sense? > > Be honest… Honestly, it’s not worth it, I’ve already tried. The DU thing was actually only an aside rather than even the main point that I was arguing ☹ ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/95 "2005-03-08T21:07:32Z")
> [@Avenger](#): > > Honestly, it’s not worth it, I’ve already tried. The DU thing was actually only an aside rather than even the main point that I was arguing ☹ Easier to nail something down after the first one is in. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Well](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df788c/32.png) [@Well](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Well)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/96 "2005-03-08T23:50:33Z")
> [@Avenger](#): > > **Well** , you really are an ignorant twat. > > I was going to come up with a reasoned answer pointing out the foolishness of your position, but I decided to settle for that instead. Yeah well, your a cunt, so I’m not surprised you can’t think of anything to say. :wally > [@World Eater](#): > > So you think refining any of the procedures wouldn’t possibly help these situations in the future? Sure it would. But thats not the point dummy. the point is that your ilk wants to describe US soldiers as triggerhappy kiddies because you don’t like the war, Bush, or the current procedues. If you think I am wrong quote one person here who is in your corner who hasn’t used one of those three reasons to call the US sodiers triggerhappy. Or name one who has stated their case despite one of those 3 reasons. > [@](#): > > Unlike you, I’m mature enough to seperate my disapproval of the war from the need for our soldiers to defend themselves > > … > > Like him or not, you have to question whether invading Iraq was a good move. What are you in like second grade? I know you are but what am I. LOL. Unlike most of you I never brought up wether I approve ir dissaprove of the war WRT troop actions now did I? But ieven in this fucking post you did. If you can seperate them then good for you, just don’t bring it up. > [@](#): > > Our “freedom fighters”? I’ve never seen a single post in this thread in support of the insurgents. Feel free to provide one, or feel free to shut the fuck up. > > I support our troops, I don’t support the war. Too bad you’re too fucking stupid to realize the difference. You really are one ignorant fuck, you know that? If you can seperate the war from the troops, then don’t fucking compare the two when you talk about troop actions. And if you personally did not say something I am refering to, then don’t act like a dipshit and assume I automatically mean you. You know you have to be one arrogant numbnuts to tell someone to shut up in their own thread. How about you stay the fuck out if you don’t like what you read ya dumbass. 🙂 "It appears that in your increasingly militaristic society wearing an uniform is akin to having a licence to kill with impunity. Wave the flag, talk about some obscure goals somehow involving “freedom and the American Way” and blast anyone who gets in the way. Hell, it obviously doesn’t even matter if they are actually on your side. Yeah, some fuckin’ “heroes” these guys were. Fuck them and fuck you! Hail, Bush!" "As I’ve often said – twice in this very thread – you lot are so predictable in your zeal to dismiss any wrongdoings by your nation and your Murderous Misleader & ruling cabal as to qualify for non-prescriptive sleeping aids: Again, a mess to be sure, but one of your own making and one that some of you continue to support. Meanwhile, your nervous and trigger happy kids continue to mow down literally countless innocents. Just as the object of this worthless pitting originally stated. I am pretty sure this dipshit considers the insurgents fighting against the “man”. I also consider his blatant biggotry towards the US as in lockstep with those terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/97 "2005-03-09T00:09:25Z")
**Well** said. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/98 "2005-03-09T00:29:28Z")
> [@Well](#): > > Sure it would. But thats not the point dummy. the point is that your ilk wants to describe US soldiers as triggerhappy kiddies because you don’t like the war, Bush, or the current procedues. So don’t tell me not to question our rules of engagement if you yourself acknowledge that they can be improved. There have been many documented incidents in which a handful of inexperienced soldiers have been too quick on the trigger. This is fucking fact, and our feeling on the war and the admin waging it have fuck all to do with those facts. > [@](#): > > If you think I am wrong quote one person here who is in your corner who hasn’t used one of those three reasons to call the US sodiers triggerhappy. Or name one who has stated their case despite one of those 3 reasons. I’m in my own corner here, let the others defend themselves. Point out where _I’ve_ listed any of those reasons. > [@](#): > > What are you in like second grade? I know you are but what am I. LOL. Unlike most of you I never brought up wether I approve ir dissaprove of the war WRT troop actions now did I? I don’t give a shit if you did or not, it doesn’t change the facts. [quote] You really are one ignorant fuck, you know that? If you can seperate the war from the troops, then don’t fucking compare the two when you talk about troop actions. [quote] Where have I done such a thing? > [@](#): > > And if you personally did not say something I am refering to, then don’t act like a dipshit and assume I automatically mean you. You know you have to be one arrogant numbnuts to tell someone to shut up in their own thread. How about you stay the fuck out if you don’t like what you read ya dumbass. 🙂 Then don’t open pit threads. Say. when does your guest thing expire anyway. Let me know so I can count the days. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/99 "2005-03-09T00:39:16Z")
Btw, I would be equally upset if such an incident occured in Afghanistan, a war and a move I thought Bush was 100% correct in taking. ---
**Author:** ![Well](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df788c/32.png) [@Well](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Well)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2005, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382/100 "2005-03-09T02:06:45Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > So don’t tell me not to question our rules of engagement if you yourself acknowledge that they can be improved. You know what sonny? If you can quote or even infer from some fucked up umagination that I tiold you that then you win a cookie. It seems you have imaginary conversations with me that I’m not privy to. > [@](#): > > I’m in my own corner here, let the others defend themselves. Point out where _I’ve_ listed any of those reasons. My god your an arrogant bastard. You have done nothing in your post 83 but defend others when you attack my accusations at other people for the things they have said. Before that post you wern’t part of the conversation at all except to snipe with some obscure comments that I basically ignored because I didn’t see it as part of the conversation everyone else was having. And unlike you, unless someone actually said something, I don’t attribute to them an accusation they never made. > [@](#): > > I don’t give a shit if you did or not, it doesn’t change the facts. The only fact I see is the one where you accused me of something you have no fucking basis but your demented imagination. > [@](#): > > Then don’t open pit threads. Say. when does your guest thing expire anyway. Let me know so I can count the days. Say what? You wont be an arrogant numbnuts if I don’t open pit threads. And don’t get your hopes up about my guest expiration, there will still be people around to tell you what an ignoramus you can be. 🆒 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trigger-happy-kiddie-soldiers-rashak-mani/293382.md?page=6)