Trigger warnings in college, cuz it's scawy.

You know, I could offer plenty of snarky answers to this question, but no serious answer. I honestly have no explanation for it. 50 years ago, students at Berkeley fought for free speech. They literally, physically fought for it, by occupying buildings and suchlike tactics. And they really meant that everyone should be allowed to speak freely.

Fast forward 50 years and we have students saying things like “freedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible, can be interpreted as hate speech.”

What went wrong? I can’t say. Perhaps it has something to do with the self-esteem movement, helicopter parenting, and other trends that shelter kids from criticism and reality.

And here I thought this thread was gonna about s&m on college campuses. I should have been warned about the content.

Meh. It was a film class, and while the rape scene is a part of the film, it wasn’t the primary theme we were analyzing in that film (and it was a very graphic, very brutal scene). I don’t think anyone would miss anything by stepping out for that specific three minutes.

Do they generally do things like bust out severed human limbs by surprise in a lecture on, say, developing your bedside matter?

Trigger warnings are warnings. You don’t need warnings when there is no surprise. The point is just to let you know what is coming up ahead so that you can choose how you handle it.

Again, it’s just common sense. If I was in any group of people at all in basically any context, I wouldn’t just start describing a violent rape or showing car crash videos or wave around a human heart with no warning. Giving people a heads up before graphic content is an ordinary thing that basically everyone does. Do you guys really run around displaying graphic things to your family or coworkers or strangers out of nowhere?

Some American universities don’t have on campus housing. Some require students to live on campus. At most schools, it’s a mixture.

To be fair, there are plenty of people who believe in warnings who think that other people overuse and abuse the concept of triggers and demanding warnings.

One rule of thumb I’ve seen: if it doesn’t give you an actual panic attack, it’s not a “trigger.”

Especially since it’s so hard to get off your fingers.

Also, it just occurred to me; what the fuck kind of trigger room doesn’t have any valium in it? Bunch of amateurs :rolleyes:

I know, kids these days! Why, just yesterday I read about a horrific act of violence* committed recently** by college kids who attacked someone for daring to speak on their campus.

  • splashing water on him
    ** 1978

My thinking:

  1. Some trigger warnings are appropriate. I have no problem with professors warning kids about graphic depictions of sexual violence, having dated for awhile a woman who legitimately freaked out when she was exposed to such depictions as they reminded her of terrible childhood events. My understanding is that this is common enough that it’s reasonable for professors to offer warnings. There might be other circumstances under which trigger warnings are appropriate, but a student who thinks he needs one needs to have a private conversation with the professor in advance.
  2. Some trigger warnings are not appropriate. A person who just doesn’t like watching sexual violence doesn’t need a trigger warning. Exposure to unpleasant stuff is part of an education.
  3. Some professors need to toughen the hell up. If a kid asks for a trigger warning, it’s okay to say no. You don’t have to go writing newspaper articles every time a kid asks for something dumb. Nobody has ever been fired from their position for not offering trigger warnings, Jesus Christ.
  4. This whole thing is being blown out of proportion by the same exact people who have been doing the same exact thing for decades. Books decrying multiculturalism and moral relativism and the barbarians at the gates of universities have been rightwing bestsellers for a long time, always declaring the death of classical Western education. It’s just as much doomsday nonsense as it’s ever been, and it has the same agenda it’s always had: make it more difficult for folks to fight for an egalitarian society.

So yeah. Not all trigger warnings are good, but that doesn’t mean the sky is falling.

The trigger warning demands aren’t coming from medical students, engineering, etc…

My attitude: If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If I were teaching biology and there was a student who objected to evolution, they would fail. You go to college, or should, to have your mental horizon expanded. If you come with a barrier to such expansion, get out!

Modern students are coddled in other ways. When I was in college, the dining halls were notoriously bad, the beds were not comfortable and there were few luxuries. In my 40 years of teaching (I retired in 1999), no parent ever called, or even wrote, to complain about poor Johnny’s grades. Never. Now I gather it happens all the time.

In your day, were graphic depictions and discussions of rape common classroom material? The range of topics we speak frankly about has widened considerably.

For me that was 12th grade Philosophy (ah, “Reason and Faith”, how we loathed you) and 10th grade Religion. It’s not something I would have expected in a Science class at all.

I think that on one hand, class names and curriculums should be detailed enough that possible common triggers are quite evident without a need for further labels: I would expect “History of the Transatlantic Trade” to include discussions on slavery, but in case any potential students aren’t aware that slaves didn’t just teleport into place, specify it in the syllabus. But there comes a point where the onus is on the student (same as it is on them to figure out that if they can barely add they probably shouldn’t be attempting engineering) or the person with the trigger.

The smell and taste of whisky bring up bad memories for me: I certainly prefer it if restaurants indicate “whisky cake” than if they say “drunk cake” or “frozen cake”. But I don’t expect the menu to include warnings that “some of the dishes may trigger unpleasant memories”.

Cite?

It’s the irony that gets me.

Really? That’s the principle by which you live? Okay. Then why are you complaining about something that bothers and upsets you?

I don’t think anybody has got a problem with trigger warnings[sup]1[/sup] for graphic content. If I were a film studies professor and I had decided to show a film like, say, Irreversible in one of my lectures, I would definitely warn students that it contains extremely graphic and disturbing material.

The problem here, isn’t with trigger warnings on graphic material, it’s with trigger warnings on potentially upsetting ideas. That’s a whole different thing altogether, and frankly it should be opposed at every turn. Part of the point of going to college is to expose yourself to new ideas, even though they might be potentially upsetting. If you don’t think you can handle that, you really shouldn’t be going to college.

Take the case linked to in the OP, for instance. Students set up a ridiculous ‘panic room’, not for students who might be triggered by graphic depictions of rape, but for students who might be “triggered” by the mere suggestion that popular fears about ‘rape culture’ are overblown. Fuck that.

As an aside, speaking as someone who has struggled with very severe panic disorder for nearly fifteen years, I personally believe that the ever increasing ubiquity of trigger warnings does more harm than good. Obviously, some students have been through traumas which make it very difficult for them to deal with graphic depictions of certain subjects, and some students are just plain fragile. For those people, trigger warnings may be helpful, but only as a temporary measure. Over the long term, all trigger warnings do is promote avoidance not healing. And as anyone with panic disorder can tell you, all avoidance offers is a short term alleviation of symptoms. It never really helps.

Recently, in England, the National Union of Students endorsed a measure to forbid (and I swear I’m not making this up) applause at lectures. The “logic” behind this was that some students may find the noise of people clapping their hands to be “triggering”. Instead, they suggest students show their approval with “non threatening ‘Jazz hands’”. Now, even if some students really are “triggered” by something as benign as a round of applause, accommodating them with trigger warnings and jazz hands is the worst thing you can do. People who are that easily disturbed need therapy. Indulging them just makes it easier for them to pursue avoidance strategies rather than real treatment.

And another thing; if we allow this precedent to continue unopposed, if we mandate that mere ideas warrant “trigger warnings”, how long will it be until students demand trigger warnings on things that they really should be okay with? Should books like ‘The buddha of Suburbia’ or ‘Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit’ come with trigger warnings for the benefit of conservative Christian and Muslim students who find “the gay lifestyle” triggering? I mean, if the only metric is ‘Will X upset some students?’ then I can’t see a logical reason for denying them? At some point, we just need to say ‘Toughen the fuck up or go home’. Frankly, if the case in the OP is anything to go by, it looks like we’re already there.

[sup]1 - That said, I don’t really like the term ‘trigger warning’. The use of the word ‘trigger’ suggests vulnerable students are little more than Pavlovian dogs with no control over their reactions. It robs them of agency. “Content warning” might be a little more diplomatic.[/sup]

Not sure why you posted this.

Because your own links undermine your thesis about what’s happening today. It’s been happening for more than a quarter century, according to your own links, and likely longer–at least for the past three generations in college. There’s no way it has anything to do with any of the things you suggest; far more likely it has to do with the idea that folks in college are immature and trying to figure things out, and often do dumb things.

The last sentence in the OP was sarcastic.

The difference is that I don’t demand or expect safe spaces and recuperation rooms in workplaces.

That’s what it’s supposed to be for.

On my own campus, I know of at least three cases–and there may be more–of students refusing to watch an R-rated film assigned in class because of their faith. (In the 3 cases I am aware of, the students were Mormon.) It didn’t even matter to them what the rating was for–language, violence, sexual content, etc. It was apparently all the same to them.

I wonder how they’d get through it if their history prof assigned 12 Years a Slave or Schindler’s List.