# Trivia Dominoes II — Play Off the Last Bit of Trivia — continued! (Part 1)

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The city of Wisconsin Dells was founded in 1857, 13 years after Wisconsin had become a state, by Byron Kilbourn and was originally named Kilbourn City; the name was changed to Wisconsin Dells in 1931.

Byron Kilbourn was also responsible for the founding of Kilbourntown at the confluence of the Milwaukee, Menomonee, and Kinnickinnic Rivers on the shores of Lake Michigan on the east side of the state, which was one of the three original towns (along with Juneau and Walker’s Point) which eventually merged to become Milwaukee.

_ **-“BB”-** _

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The annual ginseng festival is held in Wausau, Wisconsin. Wisconsin grows most of the country’s ginseng.

[The IWGF on Facebook — the International Wisconsin Ginseng Festival](https://m.facebook.com/InternationalWisconsinGinsengFestival/).

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Correction 1446 - Wisconsin statehood cama in 1848.

In play – Wisconsin Dells’s 3,000 residents live in four counties: Adams, Columbia, Juneau and Sauk.

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Juneau County, Wisconsin was named after trader Solomon Juneau, who helped found Milwaukee.  
Juneau, Wisconsin is a city in Dodge County. It is named after its founder, the Métis Paul Juneau, son of Solomon Juneau, founder of Milwaukee.  
Juneau, Alaska, the state capital, was named after Joseph Juneau, who helped found the city there.

Solomon Juneau and Joseph Juneau were cousins.

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With just over 32,000 inhabitants, Juneau ranks as the fifth smallest state capital by population. The smallest is Montpelier, followed by Pierre, Augusta, Frankfort, Juneau, and Helena.

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The November 1942 loss of the five Sullivan Brothers in the sinking of the US Navy light cruiser USS _Juneau_ partly inspired the plot of the WWII movie _Saving Private Ryan_.

> **[USS Juneau (CL-52)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Juneau_(CL-52))**
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> USS Juneau (CL-52) was a United States Navy Atlanta-class light cruiser sunk at the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal 13 November 1942. In total, 687 men, including the 5 Sullivan brothers, were killed in action as a result of her sinking.
> She was laid down by Federal Shipbuilding Company, Kearny, New Jersey, on 27 May 1940, launched on 25 October 1941, sponsored by Mrs. Harry I. Lucas, wife of the mayor of the city of Juneau, Alaska, and commissioned on 14 February 1942, with Captain Lyman K. Swen...

> **[Sullivan brothers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_brothers)**
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> The five Sullivan brothers were World War II sailor brothers of Irish American descent who, serving together on the light cruiser USS Juneau, were all killed in action during and shortly after its sinking around November 13, 1942.
> The five brothers, the sons of Thomas (1883–1965) and Alleta Sullivan (1895–1972) of Waterloo, Iowa, were:
> The Sullivans enlisted in the US Navy on January 3, 1942, with the stipulation that they serve together. The Navy had a policy of separating siblings, but thi...

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The most common tradionally-Irish surnames in Ireland are Murphy, Kelly, Sullivan/O’Sullivan, Walsh, and O’Brien.

Smith and Murray are also common surnames in Ireland, but are of English and Scottish origin, respectively.

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The November 1942 loss of the five Sullivan Brothers in the sinking of the US Navy light cruiser USS _Juneau_ partly inspired the plot of the WWII movie _Saving Private Ryan_.
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> [USS Juneau (CL-52) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Juneau_(CL-52))  
> [Sullivan brothers - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_brothers)

Whoa – good trivia. Didn’t realize they went down on the _Juneau_.  
_Saving Private Ryan_ (1998) was the first date with my now wife. We married four years later, in 2002.

But that is not my play! 🙂  
_Saving Private Ryan_ is not based on the Sullivan brothers, the five brothers killed aboard the USS _Juneau_. The movie is actually based on the Niland brothers, four siblings from Tonawanda NY who all served in the U.S. Army during World War II. Three brothers—Edward, Preston, and Bob — were supposedly killed in action, which caused their remaining brother, Fritz (whom the titular Private Ryan was based on), to be shipped back to America so that the Niland family wouldn’t lose all of their sons. Edward, who was originally thought dead, was actually found alive after escaping a Japanese prison camp in Burma, making two surviving brothers out of the four who fought in the war.

Preston Niland was KIA on 7 June 1944, in Normandy. He was with the 4th Infantry Division.

Bob Niland was KIA on 6 June 1944, in Normandy. He was with the 82nd Airborne Division.

Edward Niland parachuted from a B-25 Mitchell bomber and captured in Burma on 16 May 1944. Held prisoner in a Japanese POW camp in Burma for a year, he was liberated on 4 May 1945. He lived out his remaining days in Tonawanda NY, until he died in 1984 at the age of 71.

Frederick “Fritz” Niland served in the 101st Airborne Division and fought through the first days of the Normandy invasion. A few days after D-Day he went to the 82nd Airborne Division to find his brother Bob. At Division, he learned of Bob’s death. He was shipped to the **English** country and eventually back to New York. He lived out his days and died in San Francisco in 1983 at the age of 63.

Interestingly, Fritz Niland is buried in Anchorage, Alaska.

_Hmmm, I wonder why…?_

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British Army Dr. John H. Watson was wounded at the July 1880 Battle of Maiwand. As he wrote in his account “A Study in Scarlet” (edited, some believe, by Arthur Conan Doyle), “I should have fallen into the hands of the murderous Ghazis had it not been for the devotion and courage shown by Murray, my orderly, who threw me across a pack-horse, and succeeded in bringing me safely to the British lines.”

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> …_Saving Private Ryan_ is not based on the Sullivan brothers, the five brothers killed aboard the USS _Juneau_. The movie is actually based on the Niland brothers…

I did not say “based on,” BTW, but “partly inspired” by, as stated in several articles about the movie I read at the time it was released.

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> I did not say “based on,” BTW, but “partly inspired” by, as stated in several articles about the movie I read at the time it was released.

That’s fine, and I wasn’t writing my post as a rebuttal to yours. It was more about the fact that many people think it is about the Sullivans, than the Nilands.

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John Lawrence Sullivan (October 15, 1858 – February 2, 1918), known simply as John L. among his admirers, and dubbed the “Boston Strong Boy” by the press, was an Irish-American boxer recognized as the first heavyweight champion of gloved boxing, reigning from February 7, 1882, to 1892. He is also generally recognized as the last heavyweight champion of bare-knuckle boxing under the London Prize Ring Rules.

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The Marquess of Queensbury Rules are a code of rules for the sport of boxing, and are the code which still underlies the modern sport of boxing.

The rules were originally developed by a Welsh sporstman, John Graham Chambers, but when they were published in 1867, with the endorsement of the 9th Marquess of Queensbury, it was the title of the Marquess which was affixed to them.

The Queensbury Rules eventaully became widely adopted, and superceded the earlier London Prize Ring Rules; one of the key differences in the Queensbury Rules was the mandated use of boxing gloves, which eventually spelled the end of bare-fisted boxing.

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A marquess is a relatively high member of the British aristocracy, ranking below dukes, but above earls, viscounts, barons, baronets and knights.

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There are 14 Marquesses in the United Kingdom who still own land in England. Between them, they own over 95,000 acres of land and, in 2016, received over 3.5 million pounds in agricultural subsidies.

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Two famous Marquesses in fiction are (using the French spelling) the Marquis of Carabas, from the tale _Puss in Boots_, and the Marquis St. Evrémonde, from Charles Dickens’s novel _A Tale of Two Cities._

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The Marquesas are one of four groups of islands that comprise French Polynesia, which as a whole is dominated by Tahiti. But Tahiti is culturally separate from the Marquesas, which are now hotly disputing Tahiti’s Domination. All people of the islands have full French nationality and citizenship, the same as Parisians.

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“Southern Cross” is a 1982 song by Crosby, Stills & Nash (though David Crosby had not yet reunited with Stephen Stills and Graham Nash when the song was recorded, and doesn’t appear on it). The song is based on another song, “Seven League Boots,” written by Rick and Michael Curtis, though Stills wrote new lyrics for it, based on a long sailing trip he had taken to the South Pacific after his divorce.

The lyrics make several references to French Polynesia, including mentions of Papeete (a city on Tahiti, which serves as the capital city of French Polynesia) and the Marquesas.

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Papeete, or spelled _Pape’ete_ in Tahitian, is the capital city of French Polynesia. The country abbreviations for French Polynesia are PF and PYF, according to the ISO 3166-1 standard. Papeete is subdivided into quartiers, or wards, and there are 11 of them. Besides _Southern Cross_, Papeete is also mentioned in the song _Somewhere Over China_ by Jimmy Buffett.

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The Southern Cross is a constellation centered on four stars in the southern sky in the Milky Way. Even though it is the smallest of all 88 modern constellations, it is one of the most distinguishable, because the four stars are all nearly 3 times as bright as an average star.

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