# Trivia question: U.S. Presidents

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 28, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396 "2012-05-28T23:53:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/41 "2012-05-30T04:16:05Z")

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Some more questions:

Who was Abraham Lincoln’s first Vice President?

Who was William McKinley’s first Vice President?

Who was Franklin Roosevelt’s first Vice President?

(All three of these men would have become President if they hadn’t been replaced.)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
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> [@etv78](#):
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> Lucy Hayes

Mrs Hayes was also the first First Lady to be a college graduate.

Who was the most recent First Lady to not be a college graduate? Who was the most recent First Lady to not attend college (sort of) and to not attend college (definitely)?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/43 "2012-05-30T04:26:40Z")

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Lincoln-Hannibal Hammlin (sp?)  
Mckinley-dunno  
FDR-John Nance Garner

These are \*\*Little Nemo’s \*\*VP trivia

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/44 "2012-05-30T04:33:56Z")

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You should spoiler the answers so other people can guess.

Who was Abraham Lincoln’s first Vice President?Hannibal Hamlin

Who was William McKinley’s first Vice President?Garret Hobart

Who was Franklin Roosevelt’s first Vice President?John Nance Garner

Who was the most recent First Lady to not be a college graduate?Barbara Bush. She attended Smith College but did not graduate.

Who was the most recent First Lady to not attend college (sort of) and to not attend college (definitely)?Betty Ford studied two summers at the Bennington School of Dance, which is a program run by Bennington College. Mamie Eisenhower did not attend college.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/45 "2012-05-30T04:46:59Z")

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For McKinley, Garret Hobart.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/46 "2012-05-30T07:17:40Z")

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Gerald Ford. Congressman from Michigan.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/47 "2012-05-30T07:21:54Z")

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Never mind!

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/48 "2012-05-30T07:22:59Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> One of my favorite presidential factoids is that for a few days, we had a sitting President married to a sitting Senator.

Uhm, the Clintons? 😕

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/49 "2012-05-30T08:30:20Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> For McKinley, Garret Hobart.

I’m impressed. I would’ve known Hamlin and Garner but not Hobart, who let’s face it was not a major historical figure. Did you memorize all the Vice Presidents?

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**Author:** ![lawbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@lawbuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawbuff)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/50 "2012-05-30T13:09:04Z")

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> [@lawbuff](#):
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> No peeking! The National First Ladies Museum is in the former home of what 1st Lady, this home was before she married?

> [@etv78](#):
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> Lucy Hayes

No, but it was another Ohio 1st Lady, Ida Saxton McKinley. Her childhood home in Canton serves as the 1st Ladies Museum.  
Lucy Hayes was known as “Lemonade Lucy” as she did not permit alcohol in the White House.

She and R. B. are buried on the grounds of thier Fremont, Ohio home, have toured that also.

Hayes had the disctinction of being elected President by a Commission to decide the EC vote fiasco, unlike Jefferson and Burr, the House did not decide this one.

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**Author:** ![lawbuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@lawbuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lawbuff)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/51 "2012-05-31T15:26:58Z")

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No peeking!

Who, not by scholarly acceptance, but has made the claim, and his tombstone states it, was “President of the United States for one day”.

Hint: It was back in the days when next in line for the PREZ after the VP was the Senate Pro Tem, not the Speaker.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
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Ford, he was the House Minority Leader

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/53 "2012-05-31T16:28:38Z")

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Sorry madmonk, spoiler is incorrect.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/54 "2012-05-31T19:22:26Z")

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Wait, what? I was responding to the OP question and my answer is correct.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/55 "2012-05-31T19:47:19Z")

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> [@lawbuff](#):
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> No peeking!
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> Who, not by scholarly acceptance, but has made the claim, and his tombstone states it, was “President of the United States for one day”.
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> Hint: It was back in the days when next in line for the PREZ after the VP was the Senate Pro Tem, not the Speaker.

I’ll say Achitson But I thought the Speaker was ALWAYS in line, per the Constitution?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/56 "2012-05-31T20:32:14Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> But I thought the Speaker was ALWAYS in line, per the Constitution?

Not sure if you were aware, but the Constitution has been slowly changing these 225 years. The [25th Amendment](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution), ratified in 1967, defines presidential succession beyond the “President, then Vice President, then whatever Congress wants” as stated in Article 2, Section 1.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trivia-question-u-s-presidents/623396/57 "2012-05-31T20:48:09Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Not sure if you were aware, but the Constitution has been slowly changing these 225 years. The [25th Amendment](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution), ratified in 1967, defines presidential succession beyond the “President, then Vice President, then whatever Congress wants” as stated in Article 2, Section 1.

:rolleyes: I’m well aware of the amendment process. I thought that the order was always POTUS,VPOTUS, SoHoR.

P.S. this is what I get for reading your post (i.e. you’re on ignore)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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The order of succession has changed over the years. Before a 1947 revision, it was POTUS, VPOTUS, the President pro tem of the Senate (typically the senior senator of the majority party), and then the Speaker of the House. Had Andrew Johnson been impeached and removed from office, for instance, Sen. Ben Wade, Republican of Ohio, who was PPT at the time, would’ve become President.

You might not be surprised to learn that he voted to convict Johnson.

> **[United States presidential line of succession](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession#History_of_succession_law_set_by_Congress)**
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> The United States presidential line of succession is the order in which the vice president of the United States and other officers of the United States federal government assume the powers and duties of the U.S. presidency (or the office itself, in the instance of succession by the vice president) upon an elected president's death, resignation, removal from office, or incapacity.
> The order of succession specifies that the office passes to the vice president; if the vice presidency is simultan...

> **[Benjamin Wade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Wade#Impeachment_of_Johnson)**
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> Benjamin Franklin "Bluff" Wade (October 27, 1800 – March 2, 1878) was an American lawyer and politician who served as a United States Senator for Ohio from 1851 to 1869. He is known for his leading role among the Radical Republicans. Had the 1868 impeachment of U.S. President Andrew Johnson led to a conviction in the Senate, as president pro tempore of the U.S. Senate, Wade would have become acting president for the remaining nine months of Johnson's term.
> Born in Massachusetts, Wade worked as a...

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Ignorance fought! Sorry **Munch.** :o

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The order of succession has changed over the years. Before a 1947 revision, it was POTUS, VPOTUS, the President pro tem of the Senate (typically the senior senator of the majority party), and then the Speaker of the House.

This is technically correct in that this was one of the laws in place before 1947, but it was changed late in the 1800s. Immediately before the change in 1947, the cabinet members succeeded after the VP (in order of creation of the cabinet offices). In 1947 the Speaker and President Pro Tem were inserted before the Cabinet members.

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